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Re: Recent engine acquisitions
Funny you should ask. I did weigh it last night just to see myself. As it is, with prop and spinner it is 8.3 ounces. As for what I am doing with it, that is too early to tell, other than bench run it when spring comes.
On another note. Last night after disassembly to put it back together properly, and just a couple drops of 3-in1 oil to lube it, it has a lot of compression, as it should as I am convinced it is still new.
On another note. Last night after disassembly to put it back together properly, and just a couple drops of 3-in1 oil to lube it, it has a lot of compression, as it should as I am convinced it is still new.
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The series 21 is a Dykes ringed engine. What that means is the ring is a L shaped ring on the very crown of the piston. The ring fit on some of these examples were hit and miss from brand new. These engines usually didn't provide enough compression when hand flipping to start them if the ring gap or fit was excessive. However, starting with a electric starter will quickly start them. This is due to the ring design, the faster the engine rotates the more the ring expands because of it's design.
The redhead versions were about 1.5 ounces lighter. I personally was never satisfied by the series 21 but I'm fond of the redhead aside of it's shortcomings. This past year at the New Jersey Circle Burners Vintage Combat, a few of us were making the hybrid examples of both engines. Ringed engines use fenced or gated cylinder liners. This just means rather than a continuous exhaust or intake cutout, it's separated by small windows so the ring doesn't come out. The Series 21 piston is a direct fit to the gated Lightning bolt case series redheads. Therefore, you can use the Dykes ringed piston in the redhead but you have to ream the hole in the piston for the wrist pin and make your own wrist pin with end pads. These examples run extremely well and make some pretty good power for what they are.
The redhead versions were about 1.5 ounces lighter. I personally was never satisfied by the series 21 but I'm fond of the redhead aside of it's shortcomings. This past year at the New Jersey Circle Burners Vintage Combat, a few of us were making the hybrid examples of both engines. Ringed engines use fenced or gated cylinder liners. This just means rather than a continuous exhaust or intake cutout, it's separated by small windows so the ring doesn't come out. The Series 21 piston is a direct fit to the gated Lightning bolt case series redheads. Therefore, you can use the Dykes ringed piston in the redhead but you have to ream the hole in the piston for the wrist pin and make your own wrist pin with end pads. These examples run extremely well and make some pretty good power for what they are.
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Good inputs from your experiences and training in the combat circles, Ken, thanks for sharing. On http://sceptreflight.com/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Index.html according to Peter Chinn, the Red Head .35 was 7.2 oz. versus the Black Head .35 at 9.6 oz. That is a difference of 2.4 oz.! The Black Head .40 is the same weight as the .35 engine.Ken Cook wrote:The redhead versions were about 1.5 ounces lighter. I personally was never satisfied by the series 21 but I'm fond of the redhead aside of it's shortcomings. This past year at the New Jersey Circle Burners Vintage Combat, a few of us were making the hybrid examples of both engines. Ringed engines use fenced or gated cylinder liners. This just means rather than a continuous exhaust or intake cutout, it's separated by small windows so the ring doesn't come out. The Series 21 piston is a direct fit to the gated Lightning bolt case series redheads. Therefore, you can use the Dykes ringed piston in the redhead but you have to ream the hole in the piston for the wrist pin and make your own wrist pin with end pads. These examples run extremely well and make some pretty good power for what they are.
Whoever thought that redesigning the crankcase to include more metal without a significant HP increase, especially when Schneurle porting was gaining traction basically spelled the death knell to McCoy engines. (I and my brother bought a slew of CL ones in all sizes from the Hickam AFB, Honolulu hobby shop on sale for $6 each back in 1974.)
I've heard others in forums talk about salvaging parts from the Series 21 to renew the Red Heads. I didn't know about the piston pins / connecting rods required modifying. I heard that one of the Red Heads, parts were a drop in (may be the .19?). Do some reuse the Black Head connecting rods and may be crankshafts, too?
Anyway, I only have one Black Head, the .40. Probably would work on a biplane with short nose like the Fokker Dr. 1 or Sopwith triplane. However, I have enough extra Red Heads and K&B Stallion .35's to suit me for sport flying.
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Interesting that the McCoy Logo on the rod is facing correctly. Could that Logo appear on both the front and back (very unlikely)?
Perhaps the wristpin and rod were removed for some reason, and the rod installed incorrectly? That would make it too easy to install the piston backwards.
Bill
Perhaps the wristpin and rod were removed for some reason, and the rod installed incorrectly? That would make it too easy to install the piston backwards.
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Looks good! Not bad for the money spent.
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Nice Jason , glad someone on here got it , i bid on it but missed out somehow ? Yes they had good natenual for sure .
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I'm with Eric, I'm glad a friend got it too. I didn't bid but I thought long and hard about it. Great to see what you did with it all.
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Nice K&B Racer Hi Performance ! Did you get that off Ebay? I say one the other day on there first time i had seen one ,i think .
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getback wrote:Nice K&B Racer Hi Performance ! Did you get that off Ebay? I say one the other day on there first time i had seen one ,i think .
And I thought the K/B stood for Killer Bee.... Thinking a Killer Bee on steroids.
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getback wrote:Nice K&B Racer Hi Performance ! Did you get that off Ebay? I say one the other day on there first time i had seen one ,i think .
It did come from eBay. I’ve wanted one like it since I was a kid, and I finally found one at a reasonable price!
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Win Win !! Are you going to Run it ? If so make a video and post would love to see/hear Her .
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Is that the SR series K&B .40? I have the latest examples of the 6.5 RIRE series. One is ABC piston liner configuration and the other has a custom made AAC piston liner. Pretty stout engines and they do run well. I believe that's the engine of choice that Bill Wisniewski used.
I meant rear intake
I meant rear intake
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/372879599363
Anyone interested?
Anyone interested?
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How many tons on that press?
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Two things. First is 'WHY?'. Second is that individual should no longer to be able to own or posess a little gem like that again!
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Maybe it was someone (or one of their heirs) who used to manufacture 1/2A engines.
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California. In certain parts of that state it's called "art."
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The NVs look good.
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I never tried to start an engine with a hammer.
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