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Post  Ivanhoe Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:10 am

I bought an old Babe Bee off EBay for very little, the seller said it was gummed-up, and didn't turn over, UNDERSTATEMENT!

After soaking in fuel, and judicious application of heat, the piston has freed up nicely, but, does anyone have a clever way of separating the tank backplate from the tank? It is stuck solid, and no amount of soaking seems to help, I obviously don't want to damage the seal, so levering something between the two is out, if anyone can help I would be really grateful!

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Post  PV Pilot Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:20 am

They might have glued that together with something aggressive, to stop a leak or?.

Heat usually will do the trick, for softening fossilized castor and crud.
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Post  Ivanhoe Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:36 am

PV Pilot wrote:They might have glued that together with something aggressive, to stop a leak or?.

Heat usually will do the trick, for softening fossilized castor and crud.

Oh dear, I do hope not! I need to get in there before I try to run it

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Post  nitroairplane Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:05 am

Maybe if you try to run it in time it may loosen from the heat.
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Post  Admin Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:10 am

Stick one of the screws in the backplate, just offset it a little so the end of the screw is pushing on the tank and not going through the hole. Then just tap on the screw until the tank and backplate seperate. Do not tap on it too hard to cause and external or physical damage.
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Post  Ivanhoe Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:21 am

Admin wrote:Stick one of the screws in the backplate, just offset it a little so the end of the screw is pushing on the tank and not going through the hole. Then just tap on the screw until the tank and backplate seperate. Do not tap on it too hard to cause and external or physical damage.

That's an idea, I shall try it, thanks

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Post  Ivanhoe Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:23 am

nitroairplane wrote:Maybe if you try to run it in time it may loosen from the heat.

Trouble is, the tank could be full of corrosion or other crap, and I imagine the fuel pickup tube is fossilised, that's why I want to look in there first.

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Post  nitroairplane Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:26 am

Ivanhoe wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:Maybe if you try to run it in time it may loosen from the heat.

Trouble is, the tank could be full of corrosion or other crap, and I imagine the fuel pickup tube is fossilised, that's why I want to look in there first.

Wilf

True now thinking about it what Jacob said seems like the best option.
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Post  Ivanhoe Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:51 pm

Ivanhoe wrote:
Admin wrote:Stick one of the screws in the backplate, just offset it a little so the end of the screw is pushing on the tank and not going through the hole. Then just tap on the screw until the tank and backplate seperate. Do not tap on it too hard to cause and external or physical damage.

That's an idea, I shall try it, thanks

Wilf

And it worked! couple of gentle taps and off it came, tank is clean inside, but, as I thought, the fuel pickup has seen better days! Thanks again.

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Post  andrew Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:09 pm

Ivanhoe wrote:
.................. but, as I thought, the fuel pickup has seen better days! Thanks again.

Wilf

I save those old pickup tubes in case I run out of nails.
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Post  nitroairplane Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:25 pm

andrew wrote:
Ivanhoe wrote:
.................. but, as I thought, the fuel pickup has seen better days! Thanks again.

Wilf

I save those old pickup tubes in case I run out of nails.

LOL I save them just because I don't like throwing stuff away.
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Post  PV Pilot Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:45 pm

Babe bee coat hooks. Very Happy



Tarn-X works great for cleaning up the green crud on brass items, on your needle area, ext. There are tiny pieces of stainless steel sinch wire that come with a new sullivan tank, those work great for carefully picking the green out of the tiny jet hole on the 049 Needle Valve Assemblys. Just dont get aggresive with them or they willl scratch that delicately machined surface/orifice.
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Post  microflitedude Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:30 pm

For more stubborn grime, you can cook it in the crock pot on low overnight in antifreeze. After that just a little elbow grease with a brush.
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Post  Ivanhoe Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:32 pm

Thanks to everyone for their help and advice. The engine has cleaned up very well, even the glowhead still works! Overall it's not in bad condition. Tomorrow I'll see if it will start (Fingers crossed!)

I'll post a picture and perhaps someone will have some idea of how old it is, I'd be interested to know.

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Post  Ivanhoe Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:56 am

It runs! It took a bit of fiddling about before it burst in to song, but start it did! Runs pretty well for an engine which hasn't been used for who knows how long.
So that's another Babe Bee restored to life.

I'm assuming that it's a 1960's build, the backplate has "Made in USA" on it, which I believe rules out very early ones.

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Post  shell shock Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:39 am

Very nice man! Help save the Bees
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Post  microflitedude Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:56 am

Ivanhoe wrote:It runs! It took a bit of fiddling about before it burst in to song, but start it did! Runs pretty well for an engine which hasn't been used for who knows how long.
So that's another Babe Bee restored to life.

I'm assuming that it's a 1960's build, the backplate has "Made in USA" on it, which I believe rules out very early ones.

Wilf

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Looks great!

Yep, I have one too - 1960's.
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:04 am

Well it has a thinner swan neck crankcase so I'd say early 60's.
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