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Post  roddie Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:58 am

I don't know where this photo came from.. or what model (kit/plan) it is. The image is very small.. (297 X 167) but I wanted to see how it looked when set as my laptop's "desktop background".

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The laptop's program enlarged it.. but I had to take this photo using my phone-cam.

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The Fokker DR1 is one of my all-time favorite airplanes. I'd love to build this C/L version someday..
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Post  Ken Cook Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:34 pm

Drive to Rhinebeck Aerodrome and you can see one fly right in front of you.
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Post  TD ABUSER Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:15 pm

roddie wrote:

The Fokker DR1 is one of my all-time favorite airplanes. I'd love to build this C/L version someday..

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Post  GallopingGhostler Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:04 pm

Roddie, could it be this one?

https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2758 Fokker DR1 Triplane by Walt Musciano from American Modeler March 1960, 24in span

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Smallest engine recommended was the Fox .09 Rocket side port engine. It was considered minimal power. A Gilbert .11 Thunderhead sideport would be a shoe-in. Also, a Testor's .19 Red Head or Black Head. Or, a modern .09 Schneurle or legacy Enya .15-III, Enya .19-V, Fox .19-25 cross scavenge.

Here's one I have yet to build, but remember it back when I was 11 years old and checking Walt's book out of the library in the mid 1960's, the 12 inch Musciano Dr1 for .020 Pee Wee, I suppose a Herkimer .024 OK Cub or Cox .010 or .020 TD would also work. My scan from Walt's book may be done some 17 years ago.
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Post  roddie Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:48 pm

George, It almost looks like it could be the little 12" span version.. Huh... The loops on the lead-outs look a bit too big to be the 24" span version.

I have the Sterling kit E2 which is a 1" = 1' scale model. The top wing's span is 23.5" and the full-scale aircraft's is 23' 7".

It's been waiting years for me to learn how to fly RC before I finish it.

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The last work I did on it was cutting the top-wing apart to make functional ailerons.. tedious.

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Post  TD ABUSER Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:50 am

It's amazing that a Cox .09 can balance out the short nose.

When I first got into the hobby the advice from the Old Timers was always...."Build the tail light" and you can see that thinking here. Old Bugger

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Post  rdw777 Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:10 am

Red Baron’s triplane is a classic Roddie…. Very recognizable and always an attention getter…. A cool version of it in your avatar….

I like that small version in Musciano’s book George….Your plan to size it up to 1/2A mentioned elsewhere sounds like a winner…. You ought to go for it compadre Very Happy….
I’ve been tempted to resize this tripe below to 1/2A …. I had the magazine it appeared in when it was published and always liked it….I’m guessing the tripes would be draggy… (Read that slow, About my speed for CL these days Very Happy)

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Post  roddie Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:01 pm

Check these out... good resolution for enlargement.. 1" scale-marks, simple profile builds for our most popular engines.

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Take your pick.. Cool This drawing was courtesy of the late Terry Rigby (CEF member wha-tah-hey) Maybe build one in his honor.
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Post  rsv1cox Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:33 pm

I follow avatar picture changes which are almost as interesting to observe as the text.  Kim at one time changed his almost weekly.  Mostly they reflect the posters current interest or avocation.  I change mine less frequently, but there is always a story behind them.  

My current, a Douglas A4 Skyhawk (the pilots called them "Scooters") taking off from a runway is based on Longfellows poem:

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The words are deeper than I am, but it was what I thought of when I first saw the picture.  And I love the A4.  I climbed all over them while stationed at NATC Patuxent River.  

Great project roddie.  If I love Bipes then Tripes...................Smile

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Post  GallopingGhostler Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:02 pm

rdw777 wrote:I like that small version in Musciano’s book George….Your plan to size it up to 1/2A mentioned elsewhere sounds like a winner…. You ought to go for it compadre Very Happy…. I’ve been tempted to resize this tripe below to 1/2A …. I had the magazine it appeared in when it was published and always liked it….I’m guessing the tripes would be draggy… (Read that slow, About my speed for CL these days Very Happy)
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Robert, I have that plan in my archives, appears it would be a fine flyer, sort of a counterpart to SIG's 33 inch span profile Fokker D-VII and Spad. It would be easily resized to half-A or even quarter-A for say, a Pee Wee.

roddie wrote:Check these out... good resolution for enlargement.. 1" scale-marks, simple profile builds for our most popular engines.
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Take your pick.. Cool This drawing was courtesy of the late Terry Rigby (CEF member wha-tah-hey) Maybe build one in his honor.
Roddie, the nice thing about those WW1 half-A C/L's is that one could use the Sterling Beginner series styled Cox / OK Cub / K&B Stallion .049 engine and landing gear mount:

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https://coxengines.ca/cox--049-engine-firewall-mount-control-line.html
Note, it is out of stock for now, please contact Bernie for next delivery date.

Fortunately recognizing its value, I downloaded those plans a while back.

rsv1cox wrote:My current, a Douglas A4 Skyhawk (the pilots called them "Scooters") taking off from a runway is based on Longfellows poem:

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The words are deeper than I am, but it was what I thought of when I first saw the picture.  And I love the A4.  I climbed all over them while stationed at NATC Patuxent River.  
Back in the 1980's when I worked for Douglas Aircraft Company, 3855 Lakewood Blvd, Long Beach, CA 90807 (still remember the address), I remember the internal announcement by President Jim Worsham about manufacturing had just completed a batch of new replacement wings for the A-4, shipping to Navy.

(Summer 2005 (or thereabouts, the old mental noggin gets fuzzier as the years pass), I visited the facility after continuing eduation training hours for work, just saw piles of construction debris surrounded by a construction fence, The commercial aircraft plant DC-10 and derivative facilities east of Lakewood Blvd. were all demolished. Boeing sold the facilities, new owner took them down for new construction/use.

After, there were no buyers for the commuter DC-9 100 passenger plane rebadged as the Boeing 717, so they closed the plant west of Lakewood Blvd. and sold it. C-17 facilities south of the Long Beach Airport remained in production of plane and parts, but it too closed more recently, moved refurbishment operations to Texas.)


The A-4 was a plane that Douglas was very proud of. There was a large framed hand painted artist rendition of it on the wall of the second floor hallway of the Engineering Buildings #35-#36 (both connected by walkways on 2nd and 3rd floor, 1st floor had a passageway between the buildings for the back parking lot and I think access to the parts storage warehouses behind it.

The structural test engineers, whom we served by providing data acquisition and load servo controlling systems with our operators and initial further data processing "lived" in those buildings whereas we were in the Test Engineering Hangar 41. Building 41A attached annex were where our offices for both Flight Test and Structural Lab Test on 2nd and 3rd floor were, The Flight Test Data Center was on the 4th floor, our Structural Test Data Center was on 2nd floor, and Flight Simulations Lab were on the first floor. Each structural test had its own trailer next to the specimen for our test computer and operator for that test.)
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Post  roddie Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:28 pm

GallopingGhostler wrote:
Roddie, the nice thing about those WW1 half-A C/L's is that one could use the Sterling Beginner series styled Cox / OK Cub / K&B Stallion .049 engine and landing gear mount:

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Yes... definitely if they had one..... I kinda' like the engine-mount detail on the Bipes and Tripes drawing. It could even be made from scraps of sheet-metal if need be... a tin-can.. and tin-snips in a pinch..

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Post  GallopingGhostler Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:39 pm

roddie wrote:
GallopingGhostler wrote:Cox / OK Cub / K&B Stallion .049 engine and landing gear mount:

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Yes... definitely if they had one.....  I kinda' like the engine-mount detail on the Bipes and Tripes drawing. It could even be made from scraps of sheet-metal if need be... a tin-can.. and tin-snips in a pinch.
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In a pinch if needed, Brodak has it: https://brodak.com/1-2-a-motor-mount.html

But yes, one can easily roll their own in a number of ways if push came to shove.
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Post  rsv1cox Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:37 pm

Good stuff roddie:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/triple-decker-threat-the-fokker-dr-1-story/ar-AA1udkFJ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=2b33669243034d2383844b2f6eaa687b&ei=37
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Post  roddie Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:05 pm

rsv1cox wrote:Good stuff roddie:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/triple-decker-threat-the-fokker-dr-1-story/ar-AA1udkFJ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=2b33669243034d2383844b2f6eaa687b&ei=37

It certainly is Robert! Thank You!

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