Re: Shell Shocks First Cox Build

microflitedude Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:31 pm

nitroairplane wrote:
Big Al wrote:Shell, another way to reduce airspeed is to put the prop on backwards. This tends to kill prop efficiency/thrust but still allows an optimum needle setting for a reliable run. Ken Willard used to suggest this for some of his early .010 planes. They were rudder only and needed to be trimmed out reasonably close just in order to complete a flight. The CG, incidence and engine thrust angles had to be set up. It was considered prudent to reduce thrust for at least the test flights.
HTH Al Lenz

Yes this was also recommended for the Page Boy it was at one time the worlds smallest rc plane with a reduced wingspan of only 8".

Smallest comercial one I know of is 6". Plantraco butterfly.

shell shock Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:53 pm

i have a high torque low rpm set up.
Thanks all for following. Look forward to the video

GermanBeez Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:56 pm

yeah, i'll be looking out for it!
mine will be flying soon too.
...oh yeah...tom!
what?
ALCOHOL!!!!

nitroairplane Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:31 pm

microflitedude wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:
Big Al wrote:Shell, another way to reduce airspeed is to put the prop on backwards. This tends to kill prop efficiency/thrust but still allows an optimum needle setting for a reliable run. Ken Willard used to suggest this for some of his early .010 planes. They were rudder only and needed to be trimmed out reasonably close just in order to complete a flight. The CG, incidence and engine thrust angles had to be set up. It was considered prudent to reduce thrust for at least the test flights.
HTH Al Lenz

Yes this was also recommended for the Page Boy it was at one time the worlds smallest rc plane with a reduced wingspan of only 8".

Smallest comercial one I know of is 6". Plantraco butterfly.

They actually now make a 3.5" micro butterfly.

shell shock Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:52 pm

"it always rains on a down pour, down pour" (any modest mouse fans?)

Its raining. I cant go flying. I would wait for it to stop, but alas, i must leave for work (somethings gotta fuel this hobby XP)

SS

nitroairplane Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:16 pm

shell shock wrote:"it always rains on a down pour, down pour" (any modest mouse fans?)

Its raining. I cant go flying. I would wait for it to stop, but alas, i must leave for work (somethings gotta fuel this hobby XP)

SS

Unless you are in the situation where the hobby can fuel the hobby that would be heaven for me Huh...

shell shock Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:46 am

that is the dream, but alas, dreamers gonna dream. I plan to work at it so i wont have to dream about it one day. Flight expected for tonight or tomm morning

nitroairplane Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:58 pm

shell shock wrote:that is the dream, but alas, dreamers gonna dream. I plan to work at it so i wont have to dream about it one day. Flight expected for tonight or tomm morning

Ok then have you reinforced the wings?
Of not don't try a loop or anything like that or they will probably fold on you.

microflitedude Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:17 pm

nitroairplane wrote:
shell shock wrote:that is the dream, but alas, dreamers gonna dream. I plan to work at it so i wont have to dream about it one day. Flight expected for tonight or tomm morning

Ok then have you reinforced the wings?
Of not don't try a loop or anything like that or they will probably fold on you.

Get some struts. Laughing

nitroairplane Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:25 pm

microflitedude wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:
shell shock wrote:that is the dream, but alas, dreamers gonna dream. I plan to work at it so i wont have to dream about it one day. Flight expected for tonight or tomm morning

Ok then have you reinforced the wings?
Of not don't try a loop or anything like that or they will probably fold on you.

Get some struts.

Yeah that is a good one but do not over do teas they cause drag that's why I reinforce foam with carbon.

microflitedude Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:30 pm

nitroairplane wrote:
microflitedude wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:
shell shock wrote:that is the dream, but alas, dreamers gonna dream. I plan to work at it so i wont have to dream about it one day. Flight expected for tonight or tomm morning

Ok then have you reinforced the wings?
Of not don't try a loop or anything like that or they will probably fold on you.

Get some struts.

Yeah that is a good one but do not over do teas they cause drag that's why I reinforce foam with carbon.

Yeah, his wings look pretty thick and should accept a tube well.

EDIT - never-mind, it looks just like mine. Laughing

nitroairplane Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:33 pm

Yes they should and that's what I suggest and anyway I'm sure firebird wings aren't too expensive.

microflitedude Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:37 pm

nitroairplane wrote:Yes they should and that's what I suggest and anyway I'm sure firebird wings aren't too expensive.

My cub wings are $10.

nitroairplane Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:40 pm

Ok that's fair too.
Maybe reinforce them using tape on the top and bottom
Of the wings to keep it's shape.

microflitedude Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:15 pm

nitroairplane wrote:Ok that's fair too.
Maybe reinforce them using tape on the top and bottom
Of the wings to keep it's shape.

Second that. When mine was electric it tape did great.

My plane came out in '08 - the longest HorizonHobby plane in production. Hope it doesn't discontinue anytime soon, I need spares often.

shell shock Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:39 pm

for the first few flights, there will be no loops or acrobatics. just simple laps of the park. but i will be re-enforcing the wings indefinably.

nitroairplane Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:13 am

Great,
You fly in a park?
So do I sometimes but i recommend maidening it I'm a large field as am unthrottled plane can get away from very quickly.

shell shock Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:42 am

I fly in many parks. Though the one i plan on doing the maiden flight at is a provincial park. its huge! It has like 8 soccer fields worth of open area. no trees, no people, no cars. Due to weather, i still have not flown. hopping to change that tonight or tomorrow.

Also, on a side note, just bought a Golden Bee, no scratches, no dents, all original

Cheers
SS

GermanBeez Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:12 am

wee, what year was it made? you'll have a lot of fun with that engine, its so reliable...

shell shock Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:38 am

I'm not sure. I dont even have it yet. How can you tell?

GermanBeez Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:59 am

(getting my 1958 GB)
weeelll, lets see here...
mine has a #2 cylinder, a bigneedle valve wheel and a medium sleek crank case neck. there are some modern ones that have the straight cut ones. hope i could help you out!
beez

shell shock Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:20 pm

This is good. i will cross reference with the pics the buyer sent

*edit: It is the one that came stock with the Exhaust throttle. (or was i just naive and they never came with one, and he just added it on?)

nitroairplane Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:52 pm

shell shock wrote:This is good. i will cross reference with the pics the buyer sent

*edit: It is the one that came stock with the Exhaust throttle. (or was i just naive and they never came with one, and he just added it on?)

No some did include the throttle ring but i think they are a bit later than the first runs.
maybe 70s?

GermanBeez Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:43 pm

might be, but then his would have a straight cut crank case neck.

nitroairplane Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:44 pm

GermanBeez wrote:might be, but then his would have a straight cut crank case neck.

Ok then probably mid to late 60s,
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