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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:38 pm

You know,

I noticed that head right off the bat, I assumed it was an Estes mod. If someone turned down a .020 head they did a darn good job of it. That head while slightly tweaked can be straightened and filed (carefully) and be made to look nice again. My suggestion to Mitch would be to swap it out for a regular one until we can find out what it is.
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Post  nitroairplane Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:48 pm

Hmm well the top one is not what I would call standard anyway also could it be possible some of the first 010 production runs had turned down 020 heads?
I know the first ones did for sure.
Mudhen has 2 per production 010 heads including the one on the prototype tee dee 010.
I am intrigued about this now!
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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:11 pm

nitroairplane wrote:Hmm well the top one is not what I would call standard anyway also could it be possible some of the first 010 production runs had turned down 020 heads?
I know the first ones did for sure.
Mudhen has 2 per production 010 heads including the one on the prototype tee dee 010.
I am intrigued about this now!

Me too as the normal heads get rounded out over time making it hard to get a decent bite with the tool. The head on Mitch's wouldn't have that problem. Still, obtaining one would be impossible anyway and I highly doubt Bernie or Matt would manufacture them. Another mystery head..........like we needed one more.
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Post  Jason_WI Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:47 pm

I'll have to check the 1 or 2 .010 engines that I have. I also have some in OEM packaging I can check when I get back tomorrow.
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Post  Jason_WI Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:04 pm

mitchg95 wrote:
Jason_WI wrote:I may have a red 010 tank that has a broken fuel nipple. You can have it if you want it. Drill it out and JB weld in a small piece of K&S tubing and you have a tank for it. I'll check my tank stash when I'm back in town. Most of my tanks have severe tank rot Sad

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sure ill take it man Smile

Mitch,

I have a black tank that has a small piece cracked off on the outer flange. This will not affect operation. The fuel nipple is intact on this tank. May need some silicone after the tank back is screwed on where the screw hole is as there is a small crack in the tank back. This is a common problem if you over tighten the tank back cover.

Also found 2 .010 wrenches I don't need. PM me your address and there yours. No pliers allowed!!!!

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Post  mitchg95 Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:11 pm

Jason_WI wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:
Jason_WI wrote:I may have a red 010 tank that has a broken fuel nipple. You can have it if you want it. Drill it out and JB weld in a small piece of K&S tubing and you have a tank for it. I'll check my tank stash when I'm back in town. Most of my tanks have severe tank rot Sad

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sure ill take it man Smile

Mitch,

I have a black tank that has a small piece cracked off on the outer flange. This will not affect operation. The fuel nipple is intact on this tank. May need some silicone after the tank back is screwed on where the screw hole is as there is a small crack in the tank back. This is a common problem if you over tighten the tank back cover.

Also found 2 .010 wrenches I don't need. PM me your address and there yours. No pliers allowed!!!!

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pm sent, thanks Jason
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Post  Jason_WI Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:16 pm

Jason_WI wrote:I'll have to check the 1 or 2 .010 engines that I have. I also have some in OEM packaging I can check when I get back tomorrow.

I have 3 glow heads that look like the one Mitch is getting. They are all on the red tank/gold crankcase version. None of my NIP glow heads look like this though.

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Post  dankar04 Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:45 pm

You got a super deal on this. Downside if any is its an Estes .010.
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Post  EXModelEngines Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:07 am

Thanks to everyone for the input on the glow head. I can assure you it was not manufactured by me or Bernie.

I believe the two likest possibilities are that Cox did a limited run of these as an experiment in the 60's or early 70's or some aftermarket company manufactured a number of them.

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Post  ahrma_581 Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:42 am

Jason_WI wrote:I have 3 glow heads that look like the one Mitch is getting. They are all on the red tank/gold crankcase version. None of my NIP glow heads look like this though.

Wonder if this is a result of production economies? The '4 fin' heads maybe had a small (but significant) scrap rate when the wrench notches were broached/milled. The '3 fin' heads have more meat for that operation. So the red .010's initially came with the 4 fins and somewhere in there Cox switched to the 3 fin design by the time the black .010's came out.

Idle speculation is my stock in trade.
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Post  nitroairplane Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:12 am

dankar04 wrote:You got a super deal on this. Downside if any is its an Estes .010.
Well we don't know if it is Estes.
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Post  mitchg95 Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:20 pm

nitroairplane wrote:
dankar04 wrote:You got a super deal on this. Downside if any is its an Estes .010.
Well we don't know if it is Estes.

if it is estes, what makes it different???

man that was quick Matt, the engine arrived today everything is perfect and the glow head even works Smile I'll have to get a .010 prop and a recoil starter spring from you.
P.S. Thanks for the free .049 crankcase gaskets as it is perfect because i was thinking the other night when i was custom building a couple .049's how much i needed gaskets
And again thanks Matt Smile
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Post  EXModelEngines Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:25 pm

This eBay listing pictures offers more insight to what we were looking at a week ago:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-CLEAN-COX-010-TEE-DEE-GAS-AIRPLANE-ENGINE-ORIGINAL-BUBBLE-PACK-EXTRAS-/370623072647?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item564adb4987

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Post  dankar04 Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:46 pm

Nice package Cancer from age and tank was replaced wiith radial mount. Guy should have replaced bad parts and have something really special.
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Post  mitchg95 Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:49 pm

i took the backplate off the engine, and there is no crankcase gasket
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Post  John Goddard Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:03 pm

mitchg95 wrote:i took the backplate off the engine, and there is no crankcase gasket

I don't think there is one on the 010 Mitch
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Post  mitchg95 Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:06 pm

John Goddard wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:i took the backplate off the engine, and there is no crankcase gasket

I don't think there is one on the 010 Mitch

Oh? wonder why
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Post  John Goddard Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:09 pm

mitchg95 wrote:
John Goddard wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:i took the backplate off the engine, and there is no crankcase gasket

I don't think there is one on the 010 Mitch

Oh? wonder why

I guess cos it's got the NV on the venturi and not built into the tank.
Very Happy
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Post  mitchg95 Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:11 pm

John Goddard wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:
John Goddard wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:i took the backplate off the engine, and there is no crankcase gasket

I don't think there is one on the 010 Mitch

Oh? wonder why

I guess cos it's got the NV on the venturi and not built into the tank.
Very Happy


oh, that makes sense, but wouldn't one be worried about air leaks because it still has pressure in the crank case?
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Post  EXModelEngines Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:12 pm

Nope, you should be good.

It should have been good and tight, unless I left the screws loose lol!

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Post  mitchg95 Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:13 pm

EXModelEngines wrote:Nope, you should be good.

It should have been good and tight, unless I left the screws loose lol!

Matt

lol, that prop an spring starter should be here today Razz
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