Re: Cars, cars, and more cars

KariFS Thu May 20, 2021 11:28 am

Ok, the statue I recognize, it’s in Bremen, Germany. I cheated a little and googled, Borgward originated in Bremen, but... Huh...

OVERLORD Thu May 20, 2021 12:31 pm

KariFS wrote:Ok, the statue I recognize, it’s in Bremen, Germany. I cheated a little and googled, Borgward originated in Bremen, but...

You're getting close... There's another make from the same city.

Last picture, you can't miss this one:

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KariFS Thu May 20, 2021 1:24 pm

Hansaplast? Hansa? No. Plastic? Doesn’t look like any microcar I’ve seen... Don’t tell yet Very Happy

Finally figured out the one I thought was a Bugeye Sprite. TR3, duh!

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Still need to think about the one that looks a little like an Alfa, but not quite...

OVERLORD Fri May 21, 2021 12:33 am

One more!!! Triumph TR3.

Not Hansaplast or Sparadrap or another make. The name Leukoplast leads to the car make, founded by a shipping company.

KariFS Fri May 21, 2021 6:21 am

The leukoplast hint was a dead end to me, but I did find the Bremen car finally. I was pretty sure from the beginning that it is ”circa 1965 German something or another”, so I just Google searched images with ”German cars 1965”.

Ta-da!

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It’s a Lloyd Arabella, also sold as Borgward, so I was not totally lost there. Definitely not a common car around here, but the wraparound grille with the turn signal is a nice design gimmick.

getback Fri May 21, 2021 7:22 am

Aha The Litl Anglia , They use to race them back in the 60s early 70s when i was young and got in for free at the drag strip . Love it when we (cousin and I ) got lucky and got to see these wheel standers do there thing . Very Happy

Good old days ! This Site Rocks!

rsv1cox Fri May 21, 2021 7:50 am

getback wrote:Aha The Litl Anglia , They use to race them back in the 60s early 70s when i was young and got in for free at the drag strip . Love it when we (cousin and I ) got lucky and got to see these wheel standers do there thing . Good old days !

Not the classic, but I bought one new in late 1958. Ranks right up there with the worst cars that I ever owned. I desperately wanted a Volkswagen but there was a months long waiting list. Used oil like i owned a well. Traded it after a couple of years for a 1953 Mercury hardtop.

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Still have the handbook. Not much to it.

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Lieven, those were toughies......

OVERLORD Fri May 21, 2021 8:28 am

KariFS wrote:The leukoplast hint was a dead end to me, but I did find the Bremen car finally. I was pretty sure from the beginning that it is ”circa 1965 German something or another”, so I just Google searched images with ”German cars 1965”.

Ta-da!

It’s a Lloyd Arabella, also sold as Borgward, so I was not totally lost there. Definitely not a common car around here, but the wraparound grille with the turn signal is a nice design gimmick.

That's right, sold under the Borgward name in later production. Lloyd was owned by the Norddeutscher Lloyd shipping company. Their first post war car, the Lloyd 300 had a body made from wood and fabric. Owners often repaired the fabric with tape of the kind above and the cars were commonly rebaptised "Leukoplastbomber".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_(automobile)

And Nr 6??

OVERLORD Fri May 21, 2021 2:01 pm

rsv1cox wrote:
getback wrote:Aha The Litl Anglia , They use to race them back in the 60s early 70s when i was young and got in for free at the drag strip . Love it when we (cousin and I ) got lucky and got to see these wheel standers do there thing . Good old days !

Not the classic, but I bought one new in late 1958. Ranks right up there with the worst cars that I ever owned. I desperately wanted a Volkswagen but there was a months long waiting list. Used oil like i owned a well. Traded it after a couple of years for a 1953 Mercury hardtop.

Still have the handbook. Not much to it.

Lieven, those were toughies......

I know... but there's more to come.

I found this book in my bookcase, bought in the UK 25 years ago for 50p:

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You must have missed this page:

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OVERLORD Fri May 21, 2021 2:05 pm

getback wrote:Aha The Litl Anglia , They use to race them back in the 60s early 70s when i was young and got in for free at the drag strip . Love it when we (cousin and I ) got lucky and got to see these wheel standers do there thing . Good old days !

I knew that. I have a picture of you both staring at an Anglia in my 1978 Hot Rod mag lol!

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And this one. I bet the chap sitting in the car made the vroom vroom noise! I Love This Forum!

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rsv1cox Fri May 21, 2021 4:21 pm

Pays to save things Lieven. Still have my handbook.

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But I have fallen head over heels for a 2002 Mini Cooper locally for sale exactly like this one, only left-hand drive.

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Time to say bye to the MG.

Oldenginerod Fri May 21, 2021 6:18 pm

rsv1cox wrote:

Time to say bye to the MG.

Ah, the Mini Cooper. I recently had to work on a couple of these. Cool to look at, fun to drive, absolute disaster to work on. Ok if you have hands the size of a 10 year old. No access to anything under the hood at all. I had to virtually pull the whole front off the car to replace a radiator.
I'd stick with the MG.

rsv1cox Fri May 21, 2021 6:54 pm

It's what we do Rod. Pain and suffering, it feels so good. It's the BMW and pollution controls influences.

I used to watch the real British Mini's race around the course at Summit point and was amazed at how tossable they were. Whole new animal after BMW got ahold of them.

Oldenginerod Fri May 21, 2021 7:05 pm

Then...

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and now...

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rsv1cox Fri May 21, 2021 7:47 pm

I dunno Rod. SU's/fuel injection, SU's/fuel injection, SU's/fuel injection.......................might be worth a bit of pain.

My MGTC, now that was easy to work on.

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Sorry Lieven for getting a little off-track.

Bob

davidll1984 Sat May 22, 2021 8:22 am

This mini engine Eyebrows

the one that my father has modified wit the weeber carburettor with a large filter a cooper s model with hidrolastic suspension a very efficient sistem fully adjustable with a machine designed for The ratio of the transmission was very large, it did not go backwards Not very practical for parking but this car was designed for slalom races If you have already seen a mini cooper s race you can see the rear of the car seems to drift in the curves but keep traction on all the wheels very strange to watch Popcorn

davidll1984 Sat May 22, 2021 9:26 am

To watch until the end The little mini arrives at the end Listen to this sound watch the little mini notice well in the curves how it reacts The honda already has an advantage in the curves but the mini is something else Very Happy

KariFS Sat May 22, 2021 10:51 am

The Classic Mini is like a front-wheel drive go-kart Very Happy

The Mini was very popular in Finland, and since ’70s there has also been a competition class called ”Mini Tonni”. ”Tonni” is Finnish for a ton or thousand, as you probably guessed. The rules in this class are quite strict. Max engine displacement is 1049cc, natural aspiration, no major body or suspension modifications are allowed, tyre sizes are restricted etc. So it is mostly about who can make the best motor, most reliable car and of course the driver probably plays the most major role.

Here’s some in-car footage from a race. The handling of the Mini is really something, especially considering the basic design of the chassis is from the late ’50s. And getting the 100+ HP out of the one litre naturally aspirated pushrod engine at 8500rpm, and not have it blow up on you... wow.

davidll1984 Sat May 22, 2021 11:48 am

This sound like a younger cars sound. my father cars was mutch older a cooper s wit split window Distinguished with the two fuel tanks and better suspension better engine Without catalytic converter with straight pipe exhaust back in 1960 no catalytic convertion for this cars Pleasant sounds I can't find the photos but I have some Newspaper photo From an opponent

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two gaz cap on Cooper s

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davidll1984 Sat May 22, 2021 11:54 am

The Honda m'y dad race back in the days

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And a scirocco y have run wit a scirocco back in sumer 2000

rsv1cox Sat May 22, 2021 12:08 pm

The first time I saw those "breadbox" Mini's at Summit Point raceway in West Virginia I was blown away by how competitive they were. Not just competitive but often leading the pack against more streamlined competition. Kinda fell in love with them right then.

I was honored to lead the pre-race parade lap of vintage cars there once in my MGTC it being the oldest in the group. Fun but quite demanding with a bunch of hotrods behind. Lot's of hairpin turns, 90 degrees and straightaways there.

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davidll1984 Sat May 22, 2021 12:18 pm

Nice picturs Very Happy

I like the aerial photo this circuits summit sunny

i like the cars so mutch Clapping

m'y baby is stores in m'y 2 garage I miss her

OVERLORD Sun May 23, 2021 2:36 am

Great souvenirs!!

Nr6: Lancia 2000. It was the last evolution of the Lancia Flavia berline.

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Oldenginerod Sun May 23, 2021 4:07 am

davidll1984 wrote:To watch until the end The little mini arrives at the end Listen to this sound watch the little mini notice well in the curves how it reacts The honda already has an advantage in the curves but the mini is something else

I guess it doesn't matter where the back-end of the Mini goes, as long as the front wheels are pointing where you have to go, the rear has to follow. Pretty common to see them acting like a tricycle under hard braking in a turn. I've seen the inside rear wheel 6" off the track a few times.

Oldenginerod Sun May 23, 2021 4:12 am

A couple of scary moments for the Minis, not to mention the Escort driver.

I think I may have been at this race meet.

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