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Cox Engine of The Month
Enya 29-V 5225
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Enya 29-V 5225
Howdy folks ... I picked up an Enya 29-V 5225 today .... for a whopping $10.00 at a swap meet.
The guy didn't know much about it, but it was very clean. So clean, in fact, when I got home and took muffler and glow plug off .... this motor has never been run. It is clean as a whistle on top of the cylinder and in through the exhaust. The muffler gasket is still green and in good shape. Inside of the muffler itself ... spotless
I'm going to try to get a venturi/needle from Jim Lee ....
In the meantime .... I know we have some knowledge Enya folks here. What can you tell me about this engine? Did I throw 10 bucks away?
Thanks! Larry
The guy didn't know much about it, but it was very clean. So clean, in fact, when I got home and took muffler and glow plug off .... this motor has never been run. It is clean as a whistle on top of the cylinder and in through the exhaust. The muffler gasket is still green and in good shape. Inside of the muffler itself ... spotless
I'm going to try to get a venturi/needle from Jim Lee ....
In the meantime .... I know we have some knowledge Enya folks here. What can you tell me about this engine? Did I throw 10 bucks away?
Thanks! Larry
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
My first "big" R/C engine was a Enya .29, used it in a Sig Kadet Jr., years later it saw duty as a C/L engine on a Midwest Magician.
Re: Enya 29-V 5225
I am in no way an expert on Enya's, the singer or the engines, but I do very much enjoy both. If you don't feel like you got your money's worth on a never run $10 engine......I'd be happy to double your money for you! Hehehe
Just wait for Bob to check in, he'll tell you what a nice engine you have for sure. Congrats on such a super swap meet find.
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Just wait for Bob to check in, he'll tell you what a nice engine you have for sure. Congrats on such a super swap meet find.
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
These were popular with the team race crowd. I do know the .35 5225 came with two heads, a high compression and a low. They were not very friendly for control line stunt. They needed to be somewhat detuned. Ken
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Nice find Larry and I'm a little jealous not having a 5225 in a .29. Got the .35 5225 though. Check this link out, it will tell you everything you want to know about your new engine.
http://www.supercoolprops.com/articles/enya29.php
My first Enya and "big boy engine" was an Enya .29 T/V mounted and flown on my Sterling Fledging back in the 1980's. Still have it and it's still on the same airplane.
Of all my Enya's (over 100) the .29 is the most difficult to find in any condition, you are very lucky. In it's day the .29 and .35's were the most popular C/L engines and usually were ran hard and put away wet.
The earliest .29 was the sand cast red heads of the early 1950's and are rare as hen's teeth. Second are the "airfoil" Enyas when they moved to die casting them. The four Enya brothers have been involved in model aviation since the 1930's.
Attached some pictures.
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_210](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_210.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_211](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_211.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_212](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_212.jpg)
Bob
http://www.supercoolprops.com/articles/enya29.php
My first Enya and "big boy engine" was an Enya .29 T/V mounted and flown on my Sterling Fledging back in the 1980's. Still have it and it's still on the same airplane.
Of all my Enya's (over 100) the .29 is the most difficult to find in any condition, you are very lucky. In it's day the .29 and .35's were the most popular C/L engines and usually were ran hard and put away wet.
The earliest .29 was the sand cast red heads of the early 1950's and are rare as hen's teeth. Second are the "airfoil" Enyas when they moved to die casting them. The four Enya brothers have been involved in model aviation since the 1930's.
Attached some pictures.
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_210](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_210.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_211](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_211.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_212](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_212.jpg)
Bob
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Unless any engine is completely unusable or unrepairable, it's gotta be worth $10. I'm assuming this is the round venturi type, not the square. The .29 & .35 square port engines were supposedly excellent stunt engines. There is no difference (according to Ken Enya) in the porting & timing of these engines between the RC & CL versions, But as Ken mentioned, there were 2 heads available. It'll be hard to know what head you have, but what's that matter? Heck, it's still a $10 new engine. My $5 Enya .15 I got a couple of weeks ago was probably only 1 flight (and crash) old. Don't you just love a bargain?
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Thanks for the replies guys .... nice collection rsv1cox!! I knew there was at least one Enya fanatic around here .... ![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
Already got together with Jim Lee .... after a couple of emails back and forth, it was determined that the venturi opening is the same as a .35 .... round and .475. He's turning up venturi's for FP's now (Good ... I need one for the 25FP I got too!) and he'll turn one for the 29-V and put in an ST needle.
You guys deserve some pictures, so here are a few.
I'm not sure whats all over the carb .... it has the outward appearance of being run. But the inside is telling me a different story.
Took pictures the best I could .... also, take note of the mounting lugs. Not a mark on 'em.
Yup ....paid only $10 for this engine. $20 for the 25FP .... I'm psyched ...![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852890/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852891/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852892/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852893/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852894/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852895/large.jpg)
![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
Already got together with Jim Lee .... after a couple of emails back and forth, it was determined that the venturi opening is the same as a .35 .... round and .475. He's turning up venturi's for FP's now (Good ... I need one for the 25FP I got too!) and he'll turn one for the 29-V and put in an ST needle.
You guys deserve some pictures, so here are a few.
I'm not sure whats all over the carb .... it has the outward appearance of being run. But the inside is telling me a different story.
Took pictures the best I could .... also, take note of the mounting lugs. Not a mark on 'em.
Yup ....paid only $10 for this engine. $20 for the 25FP .... I'm psyched ...
![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852890/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852891/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852892/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852893/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852894/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161852895/large.jpg)
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
That's dried castor Larry, I would know it anywhere, I have seen similar Enya's like that over and over.
The mounts are clean and are an indicator, but I would guess that it had been run at least once. Pull the plug and the head and check for combuston.
The cylinder fins on these never seem to collect a lot of burned on castor, the heads are a different story. I relieve the head screws the same as I tighten them, a tiny amount first in a criss-cross pattern. When tightening them I put my thumb right over the glow plug opening then pushing down just barely snug them up, again criss/cross. How tight? You know it when you feel it, nothing ham handed necessary here, but you already know all of this.
My latest buy. An Enya .09 minus carburetor for $3.50 ebay.
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_010](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_010.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_910](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_910.jpg)
Looks like this now:
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_011](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_011.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_012](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_012.jpg)
Boiled it in anti freeze this morning sandblasted the case this afternoon and rubbed it out with 0000 steel wool and oil. Comes out like factory. I had a new angled needle carburetor on hand.
Bob
BTW, I'm trying to believe that maybe someone sprayed it with WD-40 (hate the stuff) or some other substance that dried on the surface. Pull the head and see, but I have seen clean cylinders and heads too on engines that I know had been ran.
Regardless, that's a heck of an engine and a heck of a buy, I would love to own it but Marleysky beat me to it...
![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
The mounts are clean and are an indicator, but I would guess that it had been run at least once. Pull the plug and the head and check for combuston.
The cylinder fins on these never seem to collect a lot of burned on castor, the heads are a different story. I relieve the head screws the same as I tighten them, a tiny amount first in a criss-cross pattern. When tightening them I put my thumb right over the glow plug opening then pushing down just barely snug them up, again criss/cross. How tight? You know it when you feel it, nothing ham handed necessary here, but you already know all of this.
My latest buy. An Enya .09 minus carburetor for $3.50 ebay.
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_010](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_010.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_910](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_910.jpg)
Looks like this now:
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_011](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_011.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_012](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_012.jpg)
Boiled it in anti freeze this morning sandblasted the case this afternoon and rubbed it out with 0000 steel wool and oil. Comes out like factory. I had a new angled needle carburetor on hand.
Bob
BTW, I'm trying to believe that maybe someone sprayed it with WD-40 (hate the stuff) or some other substance that dried on the surface. Pull the head and see, but I have seen clean cylinders and heads too on engines that I know had been ran.
Regardless, that's a heck of an engine and a heck of a buy, I would love to own it but Marleysky beat me to it...
![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Wow .... thats a really nice clean up job. It's ready for a display case, eh? ![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
Yeah, it certainly looks like dried castor ... but it seems to be the only spot. I'll pull the head off and have a look see. I'm pretty curious myself. When I pulled the plug out and looked through the hole .... the top of the piston looks clean. Couldn't get a good picture of that tho ....
I'll make it look all nice and pretty when I get the venturi .... eventually it will get run in something. I'm not one to collect, so it will fly someday.
Pics to come soon ....
![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
Yeah, it certainly looks like dried castor ... but it seems to be the only spot. I'll pull the head off and have a look see. I'm pretty curious myself. When I pulled the plug out and looked through the hole .... the top of the piston looks clean. Couldn't get a good picture of that tho ....
I'll make it look all nice and pretty when I get the venturi .... eventually it will get run in something. I'm not one to collect, so it will fly someday.
Pics to come soon ....
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Popped the head off .... I think I need to treat this as in new condition.
Only one head shim, if that tells you anything.
I'm beginning to think maybe someone swapped carb assy's.
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161855617/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161855618/large.jpg)
Only one head shim, if that tells you anything.
I'm beginning to think maybe someone swapped carb assy's.
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161855617/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161855618/large.jpg)
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Yes, that is pretty righteous especially around the top rim where the carbon really builds up. I would say that you have a low time/no time engine there.
Maybe some rookie fueled it up, didn't have a fully charged battery and couldn't get it to run.
Try removing the idle set screw on the top of the carburetor and pulling the cylinder straight out. It looks a little gummy. If it won't come out easily it's gunked up with castor.
You can use fuel to clean it up, but I use warm Simple Green on the easy stuff, warm water rinse, compressed air blow-out and a final rinse in alcohol. Then after run oil on reassembly.
Bob
Maybe some rookie fueled it up, didn't have a fully charged battery and couldn't get it to run.
Try removing the idle set screw on the top of the carburetor and pulling the cylinder straight out. It looks a little gummy. If it won't come out easily it's gunked up with castor.
You can use fuel to clean it up, but I use warm Simple Green on the easy stuff, warm water rinse, compressed air blow-out and a final rinse in alcohol. Then after run oil on reassembly.
Bob
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
larrys4227 wrote:
Only one head shim, if that tells you anything.
I don't believe the Enyas use a head shim at all. Are you sure?
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Oldenginerod wrote:larrys4227 wrote:
Only one head shim, if that tells you anything.
I don't believe the Enyas use a head shim at all. Are you sure?
Yup, I'm sure. I took it out to see how many there were.
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Enya refers to it as a gasket. I have never seen more than one. I wouldn't really call it a shim.
I have seen them really mangled up, but usually they are difficult to remove without damage. I generally leave them in place. Enya supplies or makes available high and low compression heads for some of their engines.
Bob
I have seen them really mangled up, but usually they are difficult to remove without damage. I generally leave them in place. Enya supplies or makes available high and low compression heads for some of their engines.
Bob
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
rsv1cox wrote:Enya refers to it as a gasket. I have never seen more than one. I wouldn't really call it a shim.
I have seen them really mangled up, but usually they are difficult to remove without damage. I generally leave them in place. Enya supplies or makes available high and low compression heads for some of their engines.
Bob
Ahhhh ... OK. Gasket it is ...
![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
Gasket ... I'll remember that ...
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Nope, never seen one in any Enya I've dismantled.
![Huh...](/users/3015/29/34/60/smiles/3929217648.gif)
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Next time you have one apart Rod look closely around the heads chamber, it really just blends in.
The reason I pointed out that Enya refers to it as a gasket, if Larry searchs "shim" for a replacement it will never show up.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Enya-29-Cylinder-Head-Gasket-2-Pack-NIP-/321386096442?hash=item4ad41aa73a:g:D6sAAOxyaTxTVoV5
Bob
The reason I pointed out that Enya refers to it as a gasket, if Larry searchs "shim" for a replacement it will never show up.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Enya-29-Cylinder-Head-Gasket-2-Pack-NIP-/321386096442?hash=item4ad41aa73a:g:D6sAAOxyaTxTVoV5
Bob
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Heres a pic with the gasket removed ..... it is exactly .020 thick
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161860639/large.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Large](https://2img.net/h/www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/161860639/large.jpg)
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Well that's a new one on me. Must just be on the larger engines. There is no gasket listed on the Enya web site for the smaller engines. I have a .60 but have never dismantled it 'cos it's new. Next one down is a .35. Fully stripped and cleaned that and don't recall a gasket. Other than that I have .19s, .15s & .09s. I'm positive they don't.
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
They are there Rod, but you really have to look for them. Head gaskets are not listed on the parts lists that came with the engines, but they are supplied already installed with replacement heads.
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_911](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_911.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_912](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_912.jpg)
You can dig them out with a sharp pick, but as mentioned I generally leave them in place. I have found a few that were so mangled probably by an inquisitive previous owner that they just fell out.
Bob
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_911](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_911.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_912](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/19/15/28/33/enya_912.jpg)
You can dig them out with a sharp pick, but as mentioned I generally leave them in place. I have found a few that were so mangled probably by an inquisitive previous owner that they just fell out.
Bob
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
![Enya 29-V 5225 00710](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/18/06/36/59/00710.jpg)
![Enya 29-V 5225 00610](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/18/06/36/59/00610.jpg)
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Just to clarify, the V series .29's and .35's were the only ones to be fitted with head gaskets, according to Bob Allan removable for a higher compresson ratio. Prior .29/.35's were supplied with high and low compresson heads. Enya intended the .29 to be their speed engine, the .35 stunt.
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
I have a .35-V TV, can't remember exactly when I picked it up, but I think I purchased it from America's Hobby Center on sale in the late 1970's. I purchased a Kavan aftermarket universal muffler and specific adapter for it, think from Ace R/C. Ace used to have a catalogue of various engine and R/C items from other manufacturers to include Kavan. My grey matter is getting fuzzy for stuff occurring 40 years ago.
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_310](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/18/91/97/52/enya_310.jpg)
I haven't put it to use yet, have also a .35-III TV, which is already broke in, targeted for my Goldberg Falcon III. I've bench run both, and they both seem to sweet engines, a touch more powerful than my Testors McCoy .35 Red Head. I don't own a tach, so I can't give qualitative data.
![Enya 29-V 5225 Enya_310](https://i.servimg.com/u/f68/18/91/97/52/enya_310.jpg)
I haven't put it to use yet, have also a .35-III TV, which is already broke in, targeted for my Goldberg Falcon III. I've bench run both, and they both seem to sweet engines, a touch more powerful than my Testors McCoy .35 Red Head. I don't own a tach, so I can't give qualitative data.
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Re: Enya 29-V 5225
Neat engine George, and I don't recall ever seeing that muffler. Very stylish with a bullet nose and polished ends.
And Eric, Yes. The 29's and 35's that came with two heads did not have gaskets. Later, according to Bob Allan Enya in an ecomony move that lessened the price to the consumer added a removable gasket so you could take it out and increase compression. A gasket being less expensive to manufacture than a second head.
Works for me.![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
Bob
And Eric, Yes. The 29's and 35's that came with two heads did not have gaskets. Later, according to Bob Allan Enya in an ecomony move that lessened the price to the consumer added a removable gasket so you could take it out and increase compression. A gasket being less expensive to manufacture than a second head.
Works for me.
![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
Bob
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