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Post  rsv1cox Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:15 am

I don't fly the flag every day although I should.  For me it's enough to know that its there if not in presense but in spirit.  

I set it out this morning, only I see it.  Protected from other eyes by distance and trees.  

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Still, every day it's close by.  A gift from my grandson.  Actual flag flown over Iraq on a Global Hawk mission of which he was a part.

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Years ago I printed out a copy of the Declaration and get it out every now and then to read it and remind me of the freedoms offered by this country.  Its always a comfort to see that "John Hancock" signature written so large that "Even John Bull could read it."  Some say the King of England.  But in reality both comments are just guesswork.  

I wonder how many Americans could identify the three gentlemen in this painting.  

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Post  Ken Cook Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:41 am

Seeing the church out of that window has my wondering. I wonder what church that is because I don't recall seeing it anymore. Many of the old buildings are still intact and standing to this day. I also wonder what the ship is. I believe it was the Continental Navy at this period and only consisted of less than 5 ships.
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Post  rsv1cox Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:59 am

Independence Hall Ken.

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The ship, I have no Idea.  Too early for the Constitution.  You are so fortunate to live near and occasionally work in Philly, those cheese steaks and all.  Smile
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Post  KariFS Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:08 am

Happy 4th y’all 4th of July Flag Fireworks 4th of July Flag

The model ships in churches are an old tradition in many European countries, also in Finland, especially in coastal area and even more so around the Archipelago. Most of the time they were made and gifted by sailors or merchantsmen. They’re called ”votive ships”, apparently. Had to look it up Smile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Votive_ship

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Post  rsv1cox Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:17 am

KariFS wrote:Happy 4th y’all 4th of July Flag Fireworks 4th of July Flag

The model ships in churches are an old tradition in many European countries, also in Finland, especially in coastal area and even more so around the Archipelago. Most of the time they were made and gifted by sailors or merchantsmen. They’re called ”votive ships”, apparently. Had to look it up Smile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Votive_ship


Interesting Kari. A couple caught my eye.

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Post  akjgardner Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:52 am

Fun fact … John Adams and Thomas Jefferson both died July 4th 1826
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Post  rsv1cox Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:15 pm

akjgardner wrote:Fun fact … John Adams and Thomas Jefferson both died July 4th 1826

I have been watching 1776 on TCM. A sort of musical farse about the events leading up to writing the Declaration. Adams, Franklin, Jefferson and how Jefferson got the nod. Franklin the oldest signer at 70.
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Post  HalfaDave Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:36 pm

Hi All,
Happy July 4th everyone... Cool
Canada Day was three days ago here... Smile
I remember a sailboat race, decades ago.
Somehow, I was able to,
Do a great tour of the 'USS Constitution'. ( Old Iron Sides )
It is still floating.
I recommend a tour of it.
Perspective wise...
Take care,
Have fun,
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Post  Ken Cook Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:33 pm

Bob, I walk by Independence Hall or drive by it almost every day. I don't occasionally work in Phila, I work in it every day. If you blow up the picture, just outside of the front door on the right side in the picture you see a copper ball on top of a wood structure. It's actually in the sidewalk. That's a water pump that my dad built which was for the Bicentennial, still there today. The pump handle, spout, and the brackets. I have a picture of us somewhere standing next to it when that celebration took place in the 70's. All cosmetic but neat to look at it.

     The USS Constitution was designed by Joshua Humphreys. His house still stands today which was a stones throw from where I grew up and about 10 minutes from me currently. Humphreys was hired by congress to design and build the six ships which became the US Navy.
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Post  getback Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:37 pm

4th of July Flag 4th of July Flag 4th of July Flag Fireworks Fireworks Fireworks May we continue on a Independences for USA !!
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Post  rsv1cox Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:17 pm

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Local fireworks about to start.  I hope they don't burn the neighborhood down, it's been so dry.  Lawn is brown, no rain for weeks as we are in an extended drought.  I'll be watching "A Capitol Fourth" on PBS.  Best fireworks every year.

Great story Ken, you and your Dad own a piece of history there.
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Post  Admin Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:30 pm

United States Happy 4th of July! United States

https://archive.org/details/usa_felix_slatkin_concert_arts_symphonic


4th of July Flag Fireworks

Rain was forecast for tonight so much of the neighborhood did their fireworks last night (and I'm sure they'll be doing them this weekend), I hear a few going off in the distance. The city did their fireworks last weekend...because they thought it would be better to merge them with a little festival they do and because they could do them on a weekend instead of in the middle of the week.

As of right now, no rain.


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Post  HalfaDave Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:52 pm

Hi Ken,
Thanks for the Joshua Humphreys' link. Awesome.
History is learning.
When I visited, 'Old Iron Sides', there was no iron on the hull.
Just 2ft thick Oak, that resisted a King's cannon balls.
Every gun port had 2 crew. Slept and lived with the cannon and ammo.
When ordered to fire,
They lighted the wick...
The cannon recoiled, and they reloaded for another shot.
This is why I like fireworks,
And, the smell of sulphur... Smile
Having a nice Life,
Is an option.
The USS Constitution, is not just a ship.
It is why,
There is a Constitution.

Take care,
Have fun,
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Post  rsv1cox Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:19 am

"I love the smell of napalm in the morning". Lt Col. Kilgore..............

No fireworks last night. Neighbors showed restraint and the neighborhood still exists this morning. No rain still, despite a wet forecast.
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Post  HalfaDave Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:33 am

Hi All,
Lighting a wick, and running away...
Smells of sulphur, bangs/booms and flashing lights...
It is second to,
Tweaking a Cox engine needle valve...
And letting it go...
Take care,
Have fun,
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Post  Ken Cook Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:34 am

Bob, more importantly is what I should've mentioned in regards to the Independence Hall picture. The tulips in the picture are surrounding the Liberty Bell directly behind it in a pavilion. It's visible via the walkway prior to crossing the street. Years ago, you could visit the bell and touch it. Unfortunately, some idiot decided he would have at it with a hammer. Now you can only stand in the pavilion and the number of people are limited because of security which has been present since early 2000. I hope he got a good old fashioned blanket party when taken into custody.

When I think of the bell and it's weight it's amazing. Once hanging in the steeple of Independence Hall. It was removed for fear of being stolen and melted down. It was then hidden more than 60 miles away in a church. The mere feat of removing that bell and taking it to this remote place is such a undertaking at the time it occurred. Truly incredible.
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Post  rdw777 Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:17 pm

Happy Independence Day All…. A beautiful painting depicting the draft of the Declaration….. The model ship and Independence Hall noted, I also noticed the almanac pinned by the window….I thought it might be Poor Richard’s but I looked it up and saw that his ran from 1732 to 1758….Nevertheless the almanac marks the date well in the painting… United States
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Post  rsv1cox Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:39 pm

rdw777 wrote:Happy Independence Day All…. A beautiful painting depicting the draft of the Declaration….. The model ship and Independence Hall noted, I also noticed the almanac pinned by the window….I thought it might be Poor Richard’s but I looked it up and saw that his ran from 1732 to 1758….Nevertheless the almanac marks the date well in the painting… United States

Also the Windsor chair behind Jefferson.

 I have one passed down from my mothers side of the family over generations which trace back to Boston in the 1750's.  I can still see her in front of an old Singer sewing machine mending clothes.  It now sits in the basement in front of an old computer.  How times have changed.
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Post  Ken Cook Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:03 pm

I'm quite amazed at what all have seen from a small picture. My wife took me to school on this one. I asked her about the church and she promptly responded as to it's whereabouts. I said there's no steeple there now and I looked it up and sure enough the church was renovated in 1863 and also later in the early 1900's. The church is still there and it was very important to many of those associated with Independence Hall.

Directly behind Independence Hall is a park. It's a beautiful park and I've eaten lunch there many many times. What makes this area so cool is the shade trees provided by the locust trees. They surround the park and are also planted within the core of the park. These trees are known as "Moon " trees. The seeds were taken into space during the Apollo 14 mission and germinated. They were transplanted into the park in the 70's and have identifiers indicating as to which ones. We had a bad storm a few years back and lost one of those trees which was blocking the rear street parallel to the park. So many things that are just neat to know and many have no idea.
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Post  rsv1cox Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:47 pm

Visiting Philadelphia is on my bucket list Ken, my Mom and Dad have been there and somewhere tucked away in this house is a bronze miniature copy of the Liberty Bell that they brought back.  Dad was a patroit, not a chest beater but he flew the flag every day at every house he ever owned.  

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I learned the Bells history in grade school, I doubt if they still teach it today.  I just researched wikipedia to refresh my memory.  Seems some of which I thought about is is not true.  Still an interesting read.  

The inscription on the bell reads:

Proclaim LIBERTY Throughout all the Land unto all the Inhabitants Thereof Lev. XXV. v X.
By Order of the ASSEMBLY of the Province of PENSYLVANIA for the State House in PhiladA
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