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Post  cox24711 Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:01 pm

my science teacher asked me if i could run my cox engine on wd40 so here is my go at it
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Post  NEW222 Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:33 pm

Ok, well, who would have thought? Great experiment, and outcome was good too. I like how you just went to town with the WD-40 on the deck! Well, at least your deck won't squeak. Laughing
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Post  NEW222 Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:36 pm

I wonder also if there is any long term effects to running these on WD-40, or would it even run out a full tank if so filled with it? I do believe other than the aerosol version, it is thicker than glow fuel so it may not suck up the fuel tube well.
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Post  cox24711 Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:42 pm

well its a lubricant right so i it won't hurt it at all
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Post  cox24711 Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:43 pm

thats what the the old fellas from my rc club said
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Post  pkrankow Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:47 pm

Very interesting. I would expect that the long term effects would be largely from ...wait for it...improper lubrication! The WD40 is acting like a diesel fuel, but the bottom of the engine is not getting lubed in this method. Filling the tank would provide some lubrication, but WD40 is pretty volatile and will not hang around where it is needed when things get hot.

Now, with a good castor load would WD40 make a good "diesel" replacement?

Alas, I sold my diesel engine. I have a Davis head around here somewhere, but never liked the teflon disk bit...

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Post  cox24711 Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:34 pm

why is it acting like diesel fuel?
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Post  Mark Boesen Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:49 pm

WD-40 is basically a mild solvent known as Stoddard solvent. I've never ran a 1/2a on it, but used it for years to help start larger size "glow" engines in really cold weather, so I'm not surprised to see it run, however i don't see it running without the glowplug connected. The "glow" engine is very much like a diesel, with the catalytic reaction from the platinum coil and alcohol in the fuel to keep it firing.
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Post  roddie Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:01 pm

Kind of makes me wonder if WD-40 would help cold weather starts.. along with a few wraps of yarn around the glow-head.. as Phil has suggested in the past. I've never tried the yarn.. but I want to!
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Post  cox24711 Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:07 pm

Mark Boesen wrote:WD-40 is basically a mild solvent known as Stoddard solvent. I've never ran a 1/2a on it, but used it for years to help start larger size "glow" engines in really cold weather, so I'm not surprised to see it run, however i don't see it running without the glowplug connected. The "glow" engine is very much like a diesel, with the catalytic reaction from the platinum coil and alcohol in the fuel to keep it firing.

i have ran it not anto afterwards and without the glow plug connected but i was showing how you can you can use it a throttle by limiting the amount of wd 40 going into the cylinder but the glow plug lets go at the so slow rpm
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Post  KariFS Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:12 am

Dude you sure made a mess on the deck Shocked

I think the engine runs with the aerosol propellant, that's butane pr something, isn't it? I don't think it would run with the actual WD40 liquid alone.

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Post  cox24711 Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:13 am

il check what the propellant is
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Post  cox24711 Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:16 am

A propellant is the stuff that helps pump WD-40® Multi-Use Product out of the can. The propellant used is carbon dioxide (CO2). CO2 is an inert gas which helps empty the can. Plus, the addition of CO2 reduced the number of VOCs (volatile organic compounds) in the product, a step toward respecting and conserving the environment.

i got this from the Official wd40 site
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Post  cox24711 Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:18 am

KariFS wrote:Dude you sure made a mess on the deck Shocked

I think the engine runs with the aerosol propellant, that's butane pr something, isn't it? I don't think it would run with the actual WD40 liquid alone.


hahah well it dose run on it alone you can use it as a primer if you want go ahed try it see it for your self

the deck needed oiling any way lol!
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Post  KariFS Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:49 am

You're right Greg, it does run on WD40 after all. I'll take your word for it. No IC engine would run on CO2 Very Happy


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Post  cox24711 Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:53 am

yep Very Happy this could be a alternate fuel for the future
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Post  happydad Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:07 am

cox24711 wrote:yep Very Happy  this could be a alternate fuel for the future

It already is.
   My friend George in New Zealand, a Cox engine guy, runs his Jeep diesel on used cooking oil. He makes the rounds of un local restaurants, he lives in Northland on the remote end of the North island, every couple of months and picks up their used cooking oil and drives off happy as a Kiwi, or is that Australia's bird. LOL lol!  

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Post  cox24711 Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:08 am

yep a kiwi thats what we call new zealand folks its a native bird to new zealand
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Post  cox24711 Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:08 am

happydad wrote:
cox24711 wrote:yep Very Happy  this could be a alternate fuel for the future

It already is.
   My friend George in New Zealand, a Cox engine guy, runs his Jeep diesel on used cooking oil. He makes the rounds of un local restaurants, he lives in Northland on the remote end of the North island, every couple of months and picks up their used cooking oil and drives off happy as a Kiwi, or is that Australia's bird. LOL lol!  

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how does he do that?
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Post  happydad Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:24 am

cox24711 wrote:
happydad wrote:
cox24711 wrote:yep Very Happy  this could be a alternate fuel for the future

It already is.
   My friend George in New Zealand, a Cox engine guy, runs his Jeep diesel on used cooking oil. He makes the rounds of un local restaurants, he lives in Northland on the remote end of the North island, every couple of months and picks up their used cooking oil and drives off happy as a Kiwi, or is that Australia's bird. LOL lol!  

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how does he do that?

Diesel engines run on almost any oil product. They are such high compression engines that ignition can occur with most low grade oils.
   A little help anyone?

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Post  pkrankow Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:37 pm

happydad wrote:
cox24711 wrote:
happydad wrote:
cox24711 wrote:yep Very Happy  this could be a alternate fuel for the future

It already is.
   My friend George in New Zealand, a Cox engine guy, runs his Jeep diesel on used cooking oil. He makes the rounds of un local restaurants, he lives in Northland on the remote end of the North island, every couple of months and picks up their used cooking oil and drives off happy as a Kiwi, or is that Australia's bird. LOL lol!  

happydad RC Plane Damn!Censored  Blow up Mad! Blow up Mad!

how does he do that?

Diesel engines run on almost any oil product. They are such high compression engines that ignition can occur with most low grade oils.
   A little help anyone?

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That's about it in a nutshell. There are some issues of oils eating fuel lines (solved sometime in the 1990's with better rubber compounds), and temperature, since most used cooking oils solidify at a rather high temperature, between room temperature and freezing water, but if it is warm out, temperatures above typical room temperature, then just add filtered vegetable oil to the fuel tank and run the engine! NO MODIFICATIONS _REQUIRED_ although a tank heater is highly recommended.

There are some added issues with high moisture content and less combustible molecules in the vegetable oil, and the high solidification temperature, so Bio-Diesel is made via partial soponification of the oil to cause the glycerine to seperate leaving a "dry" product that also does not solidify until below freezing. Bio-diesel also has better lubrication properties than low-sulfur diesel, and acts as a cleaning agent for fuel system parts, so bio-diesel is used in low sulfur fuels as an additive.

Phil
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Post  batjac Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:46 pm

Living here in Portlandia, there were quite a few of the french fry cars rolling around a few years ago when it was the "new thing" to run on used cooking oil from restaurants. They have a very distinctive and odd smell to them...

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Post  tubebass Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:34 pm

I have had larger engines start on WD-40 without the glow plug connected. Never tried it with a Cox though.
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Post  smooth_bill Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:02 pm

Greg,

WD-40 may cause premature bushing and piston/cylinder wear, as it contains none of the lubricating ingredients found in glow fuel.

In fact, WD-40 makes a very poor lubricant in almost any application!

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Post  fit90 Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:19 pm

WD-40 is actually a water displacer and not a lubricant. I think it was developed for the space shuttle program. It was supposedly the 40th formula, thus WD-40. I do not know if this is totally correct but I have heard it many times.
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