Log in
Search
Latest topics
» It's the X Wing that has a canardby 1975 control line guy Today at 12:12 am
» My current avatar photo
by GallopingGhostler Yesterday at 7:02 pm
» Cox 020 PeeWee rebuild questions
by LooseSpinner99 Yesterday at 4:38 pm
» music vids.. some of your favorites
by Kim Yesterday at 3:28 pm
» New Model Build
by bsadonkill Yesterday at 1:19 pm
» Kofuku Maru Fishing Boat Model
by Levent Suberk Yesterday at 11:39 am
» Free Flight Radio Assist
by rdw777 Yesterday at 11:24 am
» TEE DEE Having issues
by GallopingGhostler Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:38 pm
» Pathé Modeling Videos
by Levent Suberk Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:10 pm
» My latest doodle...
by layback209 Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:20 am
» Drones, pretty nifty...........
by rsv1cox Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:55 pm
» Project Cox .049 r/c & Citabrian Champion
by roddie Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:20 pm
Cox Engine of The Month
Cleaning engines crock pot style
Page 2 of 2
Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2
Crock Pot strainer
I decided to make my own strainer for my 2qt. crock pot. It saved me a few bucks.. as I had everything I needed here in my shop. Most store-bought kitchen-strainers are conical.. and won't sit level on the floor of the pot. A "can" has more contact-area at the bottom.. and less liquid can be used in the pot. It turned-out that a 28oz. "diced-tomatoes" tin-can was just the right size for the pots' lid to fit properly. That was my primary concern. My can's measurements were 4" dia. by 4.625" high.
I had a remnant-roll of hardware-cloth (1/4" squares) to use as a screen.. and a wire clothes-hanger for making a handle.
I started-out by cutting the bottom out of the can using the kitchen can-opener. I traced the cut-out onto the paper-wrapper that I peeled from the can. I then taped the paper to the hardware-cloth so I could see the line for cutting with tin-snips/shears.
To provide support for the screen-floor, I drilled 4 holes for machine-screws/lock-nuts.
The clothes-hanger wire was cut and then formed around a smaller can to achieve a tighter radius. Two short 90 degree bends pass through holes drilled in the top of the can. Wheel-collars (3/32" size) secure it. They also prevent scratching your hand when reaching into the can.
I want to source some "fine" metal screen to lay atop the coarse one, to keep small parts/screws from falling through. The hardware cloth provides for a "rigid" sub-floor.. and is easily removable for cleaning.
The pot-lid fits with minimal clearance.
This was really easy to make.. and didn't cost me a penny.
I had a remnant-roll of hardware-cloth (1/4" squares) to use as a screen.. and a wire clothes-hanger for making a handle.
I started-out by cutting the bottom out of the can using the kitchen can-opener. I traced the cut-out onto the paper-wrapper that I peeled from the can. I then taped the paper to the hardware-cloth so I could see the line for cutting with tin-snips/shears.
To provide support for the screen-floor, I drilled 4 holes for machine-screws/lock-nuts.
The clothes-hanger wire was cut and then formed around a smaller can to achieve a tighter radius. Two short 90 degree bends pass through holes drilled in the top of the can. Wheel-collars (3/32" size) secure it. They also prevent scratching your hand when reaching into the can.
I want to source some "fine" metal screen to lay atop the coarse one, to keep small parts/screws from falling through. The hardware cloth provides for a "rigid" sub-floor.. and is easily removable for cleaning.
The pot-lid fits with minimal clearance.
This was really easy to make.. and didn't cost me a penny.
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
Roddie
Test your invention FIRST with a item you do not like or need
Seems to me some of my problems with Ultra sonic and crock pot cleaning was from dissimilar metals all inter-reacting in the chemicals and causing the bad discoloration....may just have been as other noted too long a dip dunno
Stainless steel is the usual strainer metal....not sure how your galvanized wire mesh is gonna react in the so called aluminum safe anti freeze
Test your invention FIRST with a item you do not like or need
Seems to me some of my problems with Ultra sonic and crock pot cleaning was from dissimilar metals all inter-reacting in the chemicals and causing the bad discoloration....may just have been as other noted too long a dip dunno
Stainless steel is the usual strainer metal....not sure how your galvanized wire mesh is gonna react in the so called aluminum safe anti freeze
fredvon4- Top Poster
-
Posts : 4012
Join date : 2011-08-26
Age : 69
Location : Lampasas Texas
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
That's sound advice Phred.. thanks! I have some crankcases that are junk. I'll test one of them first. The inside of the can also has a white coating that could cause some issues if it dissolves during the cook.
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
Nice job roddie. I like the whole idea, folding down handle and all. I use something similar but smaller, I think it was once a pencil holder. Works well for sandblasting too holding small parts while covering the top with my other gloved hand.
Fred's concern may be legitimate, but A/F is designed to be quite forgiving. Still a running test would be in order. Let us know how it works out. And wow, Top Poster...5500 slipped by sometime ago without me noticing.
Value those cut nippers, they look vintage.
Bob
Fred's concern may be legitimate, but A/F is designed to be quite forgiving. Still a running test would be in order. Let us know how it works out. And wow, Top Poster...5500 slipped by sometime ago without me noticing.
Value those cut nippers, they look vintage.
Bob
rsv1cox- Top Poster
-
Posts : 11225
Join date : 2014-08-18
Location : West Virginia
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
rsv1cox wrote:Nice job roddie. I like the whole idea, folding down handle and all. I use something similar but smaller, I think it was once a pencil holder. Works well for sandblasting too holding small parts while covering the top with my other gloved hand.
Fred's concern may be legitimate, but A/F is designed to be quite forgiving. Still a running test would be in order. Let us know how it works out. And wow, Top Poster...5500 slipped by sometime ago without me noticing.
Value those cut nippers, they look vintage.
Bob
Thanks Bob! You know.. I owe you one pal. Regarding the "nippers".. I couldn't remember where they came from. Because of you; I decided to clean them up a bit with some 0000 steel wool.
but on the other side..
V.B.F. was my Grandfathers initials; Vincent Ballou Franklin.. my mom's father. He always etched his initials into his tools.. and many other personal items. He was born in 1912.. and I was his 1st grandchild.
Here's a Fox .35 that he gave me back in the early 1990's..
Note the old-vintage wrench with "VIN" engraved. One end was ground to fit the prop-nut.
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
Way to go Roddie "McGiver"
GWILLIEFOX- Rest In Peace
- Posts : 304
Join date : 2014-12-23
Age : 81
Location : Beaver Falls, PA
rsv1cox- Top Poster
-
Posts : 11225
Join date : 2014-08-18
Location : West Virginia
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
When in doubt with stuff in your antifreeze, you can go to a automotive paint supplier or bodyshop and get a paint strainer or two and run your antifreeze through that to clean out the pot of debris. And last thought since you are posting things about strainers. Firstly, they are an awesome idea that I never thought of. Secondly regarding the concern of them being conical and not sitting flat on the floor of the crock pot, I was thinking of using a block of wood, can, etc to make the bottom flat as you would like? Just a thought when I saw this part mentioned.
NEW222- Top Poster
- Posts : 3896
Join date : 2011-08-13
Age : 46
Location : oakbank, mb
The "system"..
I was getting ready to soak a couple of disassembled engines in my little Crock-Pot slow-cooker.. but wanted a means to also soak tiny parts such as screws.. so I made a small strainer-cup.
I had a small-size stainless-mesh drain-strainer leftover from a 3-pack I'd bought at Walmart years ago. The "rim-band" is crimped on.. but the mesh can be pulled inward to remove it from the band. This allows the mesh to be compressed slightly.
As it turns out; a small (6oz.) tomato-"PASTE" can was the perfect size for my micro-strainer cup!
Some notes; I used a 6oz. Contadina-brand tomato-paste can.. which had the same rim for a standard can-opener on both ends.. as I wanted the bottom of my strainer-cup "open". The "stackable" cans don't have this. I installed four tiny (#2) sheet-metal screws equidistant; approx. one inch from the bottom of the can, and installed the mesh through the top of the can. The screws retain the mesh from slipping-down.
The SS mesh drain-strainers that I bought; came in a 3-pack of sizes 2" (the one I used).. 3" and 4". The 3" strainer would be a good fit in a 8oz. size tin-can. These cans are shorter.. but slightly bigger-around than the 6oz. can.
I had a small-size stainless-mesh drain-strainer leftover from a 3-pack I'd bought at Walmart years ago. The "rim-band" is crimped on.. but the mesh can be pulled inward to remove it from the band. This allows the mesh to be compressed slightly.
As it turns out; a small (6oz.) tomato-"PASTE" can was the perfect size for my micro-strainer cup!
Some notes; I used a 6oz. Contadina-brand tomato-paste can.. which had the same rim for a standard can-opener on both ends.. as I wanted the bottom of my strainer-cup "open". The "stackable" cans don't have this. I installed four tiny (#2) sheet-metal screws equidistant; approx. one inch from the bottom of the can, and installed the mesh through the top of the can. The screws retain the mesh from slipping-down.
The SS mesh drain-strainers that I bought; came in a 3-pack of sizes 2" (the one I used).. 3" and 4". The 3" strainer would be a good fit in a 8oz. size tin-can. These cans are shorter.. but slightly bigger-around than the 6oz. can.
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
Just for grins I checked ebay (ebay has everything) for the pencil holder that I use in my crock pot. $1.65 shipped free from China.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Steel-Mesh-Desk-Pen-Pencil-Organiser-Cup-Holder-Office-School-Supplier-B3/122931821341?epid=1869505873&hash=item1c9f4ebb1d:g:IIIAAOSwLs9aaVi6
I also use it for sand blasting small parts. I just cover the top with my gloved hand and blast away.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Steel-Mesh-Desk-Pen-Pencil-Organiser-Cup-Holder-Office-School-Supplier-B3/122931821341?epid=1869505873&hash=item1c9f4ebb1d:g:IIIAAOSwLs9aaVi6
I also use it for sand blasting small parts. I just cover the top with my gloved hand and blast away.
rsv1cox- Top Poster
-
Posts : 11225
Join date : 2014-08-18
Location : West Virginia
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
Brilliant minds think alike.........
I just put some engine-parts in... to cook!!!! This is HUGE for me.. I don't get a whole lot accomplished compared to most of you guys...
My little micro-can/strainer easily holds "two" disassembled Cox .049 reed-valve engines.. LESS their plastic "back-ends". I didn't want to chance having the plastic horseshoe-type backplate/carbs and their cap-type/flanged reed-retainers getting damaged. There would have been plenty of room for them. I'm sure though; that a "pair" of Cox 8cc-tanked reed-valve engines (disassembled) would fit.
I just put some engine-parts in... to cook!!!! This is HUGE for me.. I don't get a whole lot accomplished compared to most of you guys...
My little micro-can/strainer easily holds "two" disassembled Cox .049 reed-valve engines.. LESS their plastic "back-ends". I didn't want to chance having the plastic horseshoe-type backplate/carbs and their cap-type/flanged reed-retainers getting damaged. There would have been plenty of room for them. I'm sure though; that a "pair" of Cox 8cc-tanked reed-valve engines (disassembled) would fit.
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
i own those very same tinsnips, bought 'em in the early 70's, can't remember exactly what for, but likely hobby related.
Crock pot cleaning
My main issue with crock potting completely assembled gunk seized engines is that I almost invariably ruin otherwise salvagable and reusable paper gaskets and I'd just about rather get a root canal than hand cut a paper gasket.
ticomareado- Account Under Review
- Posts : 1089
Join date : 2013-10-03
Location : NC
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
Great add-on, er, in roddie. Now that is something I can use (no pun intended). I will check out the dollar stores next week on my trip in the US. Although we now have Dollar Tree stores here, some stuff is still different. So strainer is now on my shopping list. I do however wonder about the wire screen door mesh? I wonder if that would work? I guess there is only one way to find out now..... Now I just have to get me a gunked up/stuck need-some-cleaning engine to try that theory on. Again, thanks for the tip!
NEW222- Top Poster
- Posts : 3896
Join date : 2011-08-13
Age : 46
Location : oakbank, mb
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
Can't go past this.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Frying-Net-Square-Basket-Strainer-French-Fries-Deep-Fryer-Tools-fried-food/292315001812?epid=2279490815&hash=item440f54f3d4:g:5F8AAOSwmZdZkSA6
Cheap as Chips
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Frying-Net-Square-Basket-Strainer-French-Fries-Deep-Fryer-Tools-fried-food/292315001812?epid=2279490815&hash=item440f54f3d4:g:5F8AAOSwmZdZkSA6
Cheap as Chips
Oldenginerod- Top Poster
- Posts : 4017
Join date : 2012-06-15
Age : 62
Location : Drouin, Victoria
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
ticomareado wrote:My main issue with crock potting completely assembled gunk seized engines is that I almost invariably ruin otherwise salvagable and reusable paper gaskets and I'd just about rather get a root canal than hand cut a paper gasket.
It's a darned if you do, darned if you don't thing Victor.
I find crock potted or hot Simple Green immersed complete engines come apart easier than cold engines lessening damage to screw heads and parts. I destroyed a few Wen-Max (mostly) engines before I discovered that procedure right here on this forum.
Now, I heat badly castor locked engines with a heat gun then loosen the case and head screws, then dump in the crock pot or in hot Simple Green. This allows the solution to soften gaskets which are then peeled off quite easily saving most. Not so important in our Cox engines as gaskets are readily available, but important in other engines. But after removing the gasket, they must be quickly dried then oiled to prevent drying out and curling.
I invested in a complete set of punches that I use to cut out gaskets. But tracing the outside of a case then cutting the outline is a pain for sure.
Bob
rsv1cox- Top Poster
-
Posts : 11225
Join date : 2014-08-18
Location : West Virginia
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
fredvon4 wrote:Roddie
Seems to me some of my problems with Ultra sonic and crock pot cleaning was from dissimilar metals all inter-reacting in the chemicals and causing the bad discoloration...
Try soaking them in lemon juice after they get discolored.
badbill- Gold Member
- Posts : 313
Join date : 2015-08-13
Age : 68
Location : Centerville, Georgia
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
badbill wrote:fredvon4 wrote:Roddie
Seems to me some of my problems with Ultra sonic and crock pot cleaning was from dissimilar metals all inter-reacting in the chemicals and causing the bad discoloration...
Try soaking them in lemon juice after they get discolored.
I was also wondering about vinegar. Has anyone tried vinegar, yet?
fit90- Diamond Member
- Posts : 1341
Join date : 2011-08-11
Location : Naples, Florida
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
fit90 wrote:badbill wrote:fredvon4 wrote:Roddie
Seems to me some of my problems with Ultra sonic and crock pot cleaning was from dissimilar metals all inter-reacting in the chemicals and causing the bad discoloration...
Try soaking them in lemon juice after they get discolored.
I was also wondering about vinegar. Has anyone tried vinegar, yet?
Yes, I tried vinegar to no avail. Didn't even come close to touching it. Tried Alcohol and ammonia too with the same result, this on darkened Simple Green treated die cast cases and glow heads.
Lemon juice next time. Acidic, seems like it would work.
Bob
rsv1cox- Top Poster
-
Posts : 11225
Join date : 2014-08-18
Location : West Virginia
Re: Cleaning engines crock pot style
rsv1cox wrote:fit90 wrote:badbill wrote:fredvon4 wrote:Roddie
Seems to me some of my problems with Ultra sonic and crock pot cleaning was from dissimilar metals all inter-reacting in the chemicals and causing the bad discoloration...
Try soaking them in lemon juice after they get discolored.
I was also wondering about vinegar. Has anyone tried vinegar, yet?
Yes, I tried vinegar to no avail. Didn't even come close to touching it. Tried Alcohol and ammonia too with the same result, this on darkened Simple Green treated die cast cases and glow heads.
Lemon juice next time. Acidic, seems like it would work.
Bob
Thank you for the reply. That is just one less thing that I lose time finding out doesn't work.
fit90- Diamond Member
- Posts : 1341
Join date : 2011-08-11
Location : Naples, Florida
Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2
Similar topics
» Regular Engine Clean
» Cleaning Gummed Cox Engines
» Add a "Cleaning Engines" Sticky
» Cleaning up some scuzzy engines
» Cleaning gunked up U/C engines
» Cleaning Gummed Cox Engines
» Add a "Cleaning Engines" Sticky
» Cleaning up some scuzzy engines
» Cleaning gunked up U/C engines
Page 2 of 2
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum