So, slightly bent, broken and abused French Spad is coming home

I'm having doubts about this being a Quillows model. The bulges at the top of the cowl do not match up. If it isn't Guillows, then what is it?

I agree Robert, looks like a Babe Bee .049, but could be a Pee Wee too. Seller marked - Shipped. I hope that he packed it carefully.

Found my Quillows model.

rdw777 wrote:You may be right Bob, At 14” span more likely a PeeWee….The more I look at it the more I don’t know….Definitely a kit with all the moulded pieces…. But maybe purposely for
CL, Not a converted stick and tissue job….Maybe an old Scientific or more obscure, short lived company?….. I’m following your detective work…..

Got it today along with the parts ebay buy.  The parts are all .020 and all the cases are holed.    The airplane seller did not include the firewall a most important piece, but it has to be a Cox Pee Wee or .010, this thing is tiny. But my Guillows kit is going to be no help.  

The elevator control rod is internal to the fuselage and works.  The wheels have rubber tires not wooden like Guillows models and the wings are built up and tissue covered.

Picked out the engine that I'm going to use.

 

Yes, sheet sides but stringer with tissue top and bottom.  

I did find the firewall, it was stuck right on the larger piece in plain sight.  I think the Pee Wee was positioned cylinder down as the hole in the top of the fuelage is not large enough to fit a head through.  I would pivot 180.  One mount is broken off, but I have others.






This case sent me to Dannels/Sitter book:










This hobby always sends me off in a new direction, got to find one now. "Used in the Camero and GTO cars."

Yes.. I thought that might be a car engine Robert. It's missing a flywheel/gear that looks like it was just pressed-onto the splined crankshaft; same as a prop-drive plate is. As is the engine's bottom-end; that flywheel would be as rare as hen's teeth to find by itself...

I have some photos that could help in your searching the web for identification/tracking-down parts for the two .020 powered cars. I won't be held accountable for any "reckless spending" moving forward on your part...  



That's your crankcase.. for sure.





It's got a non-anodized Pee Wee .020 tank-bowl.. and backplate/NVA.. as far as I can tell. It's the bottom and front-end that make that engine special.















These are just some images that I've gathered off the web.. to help familiarize myself with these cars.

Thanks for checking that out roddie. Another thing of note, the glow head is knurled, high compression.

OVERLORD wrote:Bob, all 020 heads are knurled. Nothing to do with high compression.

Hi Lieven, I have a few .020 heads both new in the package and used, a little over half are not knurled.  I checked Sitter and he is not specific.  Can you point me to text on  this?  






Maybe all .020 heads are "high compression" knurled or unknurled.

rdw777 wrote:The photo below shows Bob’s new .020 crank and case next to one of mine staged up in the same position …. Unless it’s an optical illusion looks like a big crank PeeWee .020….
I’m sure a rare bird…. Congratulations on that unusual piece

What a great compairson picture.  A picture is worth a thousand words.  

And Lieven, something is lost in translation, that and presently my brain is so clogged in Covid goo that I can't make your connection.  But, I'm thinking, same glow head/compression/part # -  different visual presentation.

Bob

Hi Lieven, The link works fine and I read every word. I think that we agree.

Bob

rdw777 wrote:The photo below shows Bob’s new .020 crank and case next to one of mine staged up in the same position …. Unless it’s an optical illusion looks like a big crank PeeWee .020….
I’m sure a rare bird…. Congratulations on that unusual piece

Oh yea... You'd do well to catalog that piece Mr. Vining..

Yes, I showed it a little love. Knocked the rust off the splines with fine steel wool, a few drops of MMO in all the right places.

Thanks George, I think I can use the undamaged quarter wing to duplicate the rest, just backlight it and trace. The rest is easy.

And Levent, I kind of like the red tanks, but these are not worth much effort. Evirorust sp? will remove anodization. Rod (Oldenginerod) suggested blank-off rubber grommets instead of JBW as a hole repair. I have an assortment but maybe none quite that small - about 1/4" and less. Going to see if I have some that will fit an oval curve not a flat surface.

I went on ebay looking for Pee Wee parts. WOW! most sellers think they have gold! There are sellers and there are dreamers out there. I found a couple of sellers but still more costly than my comfort zone usually allows. Found two.

NIP $115.00 - Didn't need it, wanted it. Cheap compared to the others.



And...Parts. $48.00 (Twice what I wanted to pay but I need the fuel tank to add to the Cox Camero/GTO engine)



These were the cheapest that I could find, most reach into the high two and three hundreds.

Enterprise Kit, maybe George.  Looks like the wings have eight ribs each and stringers glued right on the top slab.  Bottom is tissue covered.  



Engine was mounted cylinder down, needle up.  Needle and fillers must have had extensions, if not they will be.




Test fitting only. This is so much fun. Warms the heart of an old man. Mysteries uncovered, mysteries solved.