Gilbert - a little different form of trash

davidll1984 wrote:Ho it's an interesting model Is the bottom photo the result of the restoration? Very nice model what year this model He must be very old

Thanks David. Bottom picture is from the internet, I haven't got it yet. I think these were offered in the 1960's by Gilbert corporation same people that made the famous Erector sets.

Kim ran two of these engines on his old Lazy Bee. I found it when looking for information. There are a lot of Kim's videos there.


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=gilbert+model+airplane&&view=detail&mid=3F3C98A9800E428E788F3F3C98A9800E428E788F&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgilbert%2520model%2520airplane%26%26FORM%3DVDVVXX

Pretty neat engines. Went through some of my old pictures.

Says its the rewind starter , I got one of those CS i think was wondering what it when to , These engines were made by the Johnson Co. didnt know that .. https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-1-8-airplanes-70/1907553-gilbert-11-engines.html

getback wrote:Says its the rewind starter , I got one of those CS i think was wondering what it when to , These engines were made by the Johnson Co. didnt know that ..  https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-1-8-airplanes-70/1907553-gilbert-11-engines.html  

Yes, rewind starter.  More clunky than the Wen Max starter.  But it works.  Smacked my finger really good when I was just testing it.  

Available on both the 7 and the 11.  I do like that they set the needle back away from the propellor.  Makes mounting more difficult though and just two mounting holes are curious.  Got more of these than I thought.




And, why stop at just one.  Found another, made an offer that was accepted.  Comes with a mint Testors P-39/63 King/Airacobra.

Regardless, it sure is a pretty thing. I hope that Rod chimes in with some history.

I'm glad that no one had a problem with my description of "mint" on the Wen P-39/63. Because actually it is. Seven out of ten of these are missing the canopies, and most are missing the engines cowl. That, plus no wing root cracks and intact elevators make this a jewel. Nasty will clean off with parts cleaner and Simple Green.

944_Jim wrote:Ken,
I'm glad you posted your notes regarding those engines. I almost bought a match for my .11. I feel like I dodged a bullet now!

Mine is never run, NOOB, but as adorable as it looks with those stacks, I just can't think of anything I'd build for it.

I don't know Jim, they are pretty cheap.  I just bought two more with stacks, props, extra heads, and wrenches for about $20 apiece.  

Sellers's caution:

Gilbert .07 and .11  Model Airplane Engines & Prop and Extra Glow Head and Wrench.  Selling for someone else.  Here's his description----  These engines have been run in for more than 15 minutes on mild fuel with extra castor:  30% castor, 10% nitro.  Most of the obstinance is gone.  They are still not fully broken in and extra 5-10% castor oil should be added to the first quart of fuel you run in these engines.  Gilbert engines have ball sockets under the piston to hold the rod.  Therefore, the fuel used in these engines must have at least 20% CASTOR OIL CONTENT by volume.  Otherwise the socket will wear, fueled with only synthetic oil.  This will quickly ruin the engine: lost compression and change in timing.  Note:  Cox engine warranty was voided if fuel did not have castor oil as primary lubricant.  Synthetic oil will not adequately lubricate ball-socket.  Recommend Cox Fuel, Superfuel, K&B, Duke's Fuel & SIG.  Also recommend tightening glow head before each flight.   You are getting a .07 Gilbert engine and a .11 Gilbert engine with mounting hardware for each engine.  2 prop's for each engine.  The prop for the .07 is a reverse pitch prop.  2 extra glow head for each engine and 2 Gilbert wrench's.  Exhaust stacks for the .11 engine.  The .11's have a prop driver from the .07 engines, it will work just fine.  The engines may have scuff's, discolorations, scratches as they are old and have been worked on so that each engine has been proven to run good.  I have 10 of these ready to go, they are all the same so I will pick one to ship to you.  Check my other auctions and store for more model airplane items.

Got the Gilbert today.

This guy or gal knew how to pack, best that I have seen.





Nasty engine, locked up. Missing the central screw that holds up the landing gear, but all the rest are there.





Airfoil wing, near perfect. Control limit peg on the bell crank.





This one should be a pretty easy repair and clean-up. I wanted it because it was different, a learning experience.

Oldenginerod wrote:Bob, I think you have quite a treasure there.  These are nearly impossible to find these days.  Your's looks about as good as you'll find.  Nice addition to the collections once cleaned up.

Thanks Rod, but I think we may be the only ones.

It may give me the inspiration to run it after I get it cleaned up.  Think I will! I don't remember ever having ran one.  Kind of eager to listen to what those twin pipes have to offer.  

While looking for another, I discovered these for very reasonable money.  I really only needed one of the props to replace the broken one on my second buy (pictured above).  I just wish it included the nose cone/black spinner that the originals had.  



Hmm, better picture.  Interesting exhaust stack arraignment. This one is actually the better example.