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Post  mr_cox Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:31 am

Hello all!

I want to build this weekend a small plane to fly with a cox RC babe bee. I have to conves that i never build a wooden plane before and never used a Cox to power a plane. Embarassed

Now i am looking for a super simple plan to build my first RC plane. I prefer one that is not so quick and will glide to the air when the babe bee runs out of fuel. Also it would be nice if the wing could be build from a solid piece of balsa (or some more pieces)

Anyone an idea?

Thank you!

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Post  PV Pilot Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:09 pm

Does it have to be wood Bas?. You can crank out a disposable foamie pretty quick,,just by the materials used.
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:15 pm

The lazy bee is great.
BUt maybe a Vic Smeed tomboy there straight forward and will be good with a babe bee.
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Post  Surfer_kris Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:08 pm

There is the "Grace" for instance, a postal plane on RCU; Grace
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Post  andrew Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:12 pm

The Honker is about as simple as they come.

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Post  mr_cox Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:04 am

Thank you for the plans! there have to be something that even i can build.

Something else as wood is fine to. However im not sure where to get the materials.

Hop I could build something this weekend.
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Post  nitroairplane Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:29 am

If the wing confuses you it is possible to use an ACE foam wing and build from that.
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Post  andrew Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:37 am

Here's an example of the wing construction. It uses a tapered sheet from SIG to build the Jedelsky airfoil, but you might be able to use a standard sheet of balse instead with the understanding that you'll be adding a bit of weight and the airfoil will not be as efficient.

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Post  mr_cox Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:20 pm

I did not yet manage to aquire parts to build an airplane, but I did manage to order 2 bottle's of model technics GN-25. And that at my local hobby shop! Last time i had to travel 150km to get a bottle.

Could someone explane how to build an wing with only a couple of sheets of balsa? And how do you get the V- shape in it?

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Post  nitroairplane Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:23 pm

Well you need to be good at sanding as you sand the aerofoil into it.
that "V" shape is called dihedral you make the wing in 2 parts and glue them together at the recommended angle to get the dihedral.
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Post  John Goddard Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:47 am

Now I've got the building Bug this will be my first plan to flight for 37 years ha.

It looks very easy Bastiaaan and there are loads of utubes of it some in your
neck of the woods too,

http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/lastick.pdf
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Post  nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:50 am

WoW John Badman doing a Stik!
Go with full 4 channel and no dihedral and the aerobatic capabilities will surprise you!
Well maybe not you as you have that huge Capiche but the surprised me before I got into 3d.
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Post  John Goddard Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:12 am

nitroairplane wrote:WoW John Badman doing a Stik!
Go with full 4 channel and no dihedral and the aerobatic capabilities will surprise you!
Well maybe not you as you have that huge Capiche but the surprised me before I got into 3d.

I got it BAAAd big Guy.
I'm sat in office waiting for Car park over the Marshes to open then me n
Rainbow is ooorf for a cheeky skive.
I started measuring the pee wee rc upfor it last night and started glueing wings of aerobic as well.
meantime it's a
Bit 'parky' out there but I've fuelled the Zippo just in case of hyperthermia

lol!
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Post  nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:31 am

Cool!
Man the big bites hard, I keep my warmer going like 24/7 Smile
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Post  andrew Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:11 am

Here's another that's an easy build-up: Das Not Ugly (DNU). It's been built by quite a number of folks on the other forums. I've attached the JPG file, but have a tiled PDF if anyone is interested.

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Post  fit90 Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:20 am

I second the DNU (Das Not Ugly). I am finishing one up now. I was going to do a build thread but it was such a fast and easy build that I was just about done with the frame up before I realized I had not taken any pics. It is a nice kit and you can get it from selecthobbies.com.

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Post  John Goddard Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:26 am

Looking forward to seeing it Roberto
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Post  modelmaker56 Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:31 am

Wow, I have the original RCM in wich the Honker's plans were published... love it, think I'll build myself one again... 30 years later..lol... thanks for reminding me.. Very Happy
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Post  John Goddard Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:51 am

modelmaker56 wrote: Wow, I have the original RCM in wich the Honker's plans were published... love it, think I'll build myself one again... 30 years later..lol... thanks for reminding me.. Very Happy
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Hi TJ
Is that where you're from?
My Missus' family are from Miziara up near the Cedars a few generations back.
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Post  andrew Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:56 am

modelmaker56 wrote: Wow, I have the original RCM in wich the Honker's plans were published... love it, think I'll build myself one again... 30 years later..lol... thanks for reminding me.. Very Happy
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The Honker Rocket is essentially a Honker (same wing and stab), but with a rakish rudder and sleeker fuselage. They were used for a time in 1/2A class racing during the mid-eighties.

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Post  Ivanhoe Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:29 am

andrew wrote:The Honker is about as simple as they come.


I'm very taken with the "Honker", quick to build and should stand up to even my flying!
Any tips or advice on building or flying?
It's been many years since I built a Jedelsky wing, they were all the rage at one time, everything from A2 gliders to R/C models used them, but then foam took over the "Easy-build" market.
I intend to power with a throttled SureStart and use 3 channels for throttle/rudder/elevator.

I can't build my big stunter for a while due to lack of space, but I can squeeze this on to the 4' x 2' bench that I have left to work on, so I'll have something to do while I'm waiting!

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Post  andrew Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:45 pm

Ivanhoe wrote:
andrew wrote:The Honker is about as simple as they come.


I'm very taken with the "Honker", quick to build and should stand up to even my flying!
Any tips or advice on building or flying?

Wilf --

If you can find the 4" wide tapered sheet, it will make building the wing magnitudes easier. A good razor plane with sharp blades is a must and I find the aluminum sanding bars to be very useful. I draw parallel lines spanwise on the leading edge sheet to help with shaping. I also shaped the wing as a single 36" sheet, then cut it in two and sanded in the dihedral angle before joining.

If I snap it with full up and full right, it will spin --- sometimes I can't get it out and I have pancaked mine a couple of times.
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Post  Ivanhoe Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:11 pm


"Wilf --

If you can find the 4" wide tapered sheet, it will make building the wing magnitudes easier. A good razor plane with sharp blades is a must and I find the aluminum sanding bars to be very useful. I draw parallel lines spanwise on the leading edge sheet to help with shaping. I also shaped the wing as a single 36" sheet, then cut it in two and sanded in the dihedral angle before joining.

If I snap it with full up and full right, it will spin --- sometimes I can't get it out and I have pancaked mine a couple of times."

Thanks Andrew, that's how I will shape the wing, I don't think tapered sheets are available over here, at least I've never seen any, so I'll have to do it the hard way!
Have you got the full dihedral on your's, or is it reduced? It's unusual for a model of this configuration to spin, I've had models develop an uncontrollable spiral dive, but I don't think I ever had a true spin

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Post  proctor Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:05 pm

Hi Wilf,
Make sure it is the Honker and not Honker Rocket you build, the Rocket
is much smaller and a easy build for TD 0.02 but too small for an 0.049.
From the remains of mine, built in the 80's wing span approx 25 1/2"
length 16 1/2".
Thanks Andrew for the plan for the Rocket must build another one.
Wilf, They will almost all spin, just move the cg back and have enough
elev and rudder. But!!! They won't all come out of it.
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Post  Ivanhoe Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:52 pm

proctor wrote:Hi Wilf,
Make sure it is the Honker and not Honker Rocket you build, the Rocket
is much smaller and a easy build for TD 0.02 but too small for an 0.049.
From the remains of mine, built in the 80's wing span approx 25 1/2"
length 16 1/2".
Thanks Andrew for the plan for the Rocket must build another one.
Wilf, They will almost all spin, just move the cg back and have enough
elev and rudder. But!!! They won't all come out of it.
John

No, the plan I have is 36" span, 1 balsa sheet length, I'm trying to work out how to cram 3 fullsized servos (Don't want to use mini ones) Rx and a tank in, so the bigger the better!
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