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Post  MauricioB Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:22 am

I am grateful to report on the spark plugs.
In the picture I show original COX plug in the engine 09 and there is a cap COX original cylinder.
The spark plug is placed - cylinder cap installed Cox is brand OS. my question is; which is the spark plug should be used in said cylinder head to match the original spark plug COX ?????
Data:
Cox ............................... original spark plug: 15190 RPM.
Original cylinder cover and plug OS ...: RPM 14000/14100
Thanks !, Mauricio.

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Post  Surfer_kris Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:23 am

Cox made a regular plug for the Queen Bee and the TD .09RC, only problem is that this gives a rather large power loss compared to the regular heads. I have the order number for that plug somewhere, but it is nothing special (as far as I know) just a long reach hot plug.

The only way to avoid this power loss is to use the regular TD head, or a special head that uses Nelson or "Turbo" plugs. The Turbo plug heads used to pop up on ebay some time ago, haven't checked lately.

On the Queen Bee a conversion head with a hot Turbo plug (OS P4) worked well for me.
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Post  MauricioB Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:35 am

Thank you very much for answering!
You said that in your engine with spark plug O.S. P4, has noticed that works well ?!
You liken between Cox Original spark plug and cylinder head plus the original Cox plug O.S.P4 the difference in RPM ??

COX Queen Bee
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Original Cox ................................................ ... RPM ???
Original top plug cylinder + O.S. RPM P4 ...... ????

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Post  MauricioB Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:08 pm

Surfer_kris wrote:Cox made a regular plug for the Queen Bee and the TD .09RC, only problem is that this gives a rather large power loss compared to the regular heads. I have the order number for that plug somewhere, but it is nothing special (as far as I know) just a long reach hot plug.

The only way to avoid this power loss is to use the regular TD head, or a special head that uses Nelson or "Turbo" plugs. The Turbo plug heads used to pop up on ebay some time ago, haven't checked lately.

On the Queen Bee a conversion head with a hot Turbo plug (OS P4) worked well for me.

hello, buy OS P4 plug, but to my surprise the thread is different from the one that brings the cylinder head, could you tell me as you have done in your engine to use ??? Shocked Shocked Shocked
http://www.osengines.com/glowplugs/index.html
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Post  1/2A Nut Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:28 am

You bough a turbo plug it will not work with your adapter you need a No.7 or No,8 or R5

I can recommend this head adapter as I own one see pics.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Charlies-Glow-Head-Adapter-for-Cox-09-Medallion-Engine-RC-FF-CL-airplane/131752000477?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3Da710dfaf26b84222adedf3497d7b67ce%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D371560463337

Also if you are going to post rpm readings please let us know what brand prop and size it was or
your readings mean nothing.
TD .09 Example of Useful Data with the Valentine Turbo Plug Adapter:
APC 6.3x4 Combat Prop / 20% Nitro / 16,300 / .19 hp / 142w / 24oz thrust / 109.6g with prop/spinner.
-Tatone EM-9 Muffler
-High performance crank
-Tarno RC Carb
-Aluminum Carb Body
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Note engine in the middle with the Tatone muffler has a Valentines Turbo Head you will see notch
for the cox wrench is smaller. The turbo plug gives very good compression.

Note the Cox High Compression Head has the ring of notches and is not a standard glow plug.
Note that Cox engines do not use spark plugs they use glow plugs.

The Medallion has a Charlie's Head Adapter for reference to the ebay link. I have them for .049, .09 and on one of my TD .15 nicely made adapter.

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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:00 am

1/2A Nut wrote:You bough a turbo plug it will not work with your adapter you need a No.7 or No,8 or R5

I can recommend this head adapter as I own one see pics.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Charlies-Glow-Head-Adapter-for-Cox-09-Medallion-Engine-RC-FF-CL-airplane/131752000477?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3Da710dfaf26b84222adedf3497d7b67ce%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D371560463337

Also if you are going to post rpm readings please let us know what brand prop and size it was or
your readings mean nothing.
TD .09 Example of Useful Data with the Valentine Turbo Plug Adapter:
APC 6.3x4 Combat Prop / 20% Nitro / 16,300 / .19 hp / 142w / 24oz thrust / 109.6g with prop/spinner.
-Tatone EM-9 Muffler
-High performance crank
-Tarno RC Carb
-Aluminum Carb Body
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COX 09 .. That plug (brand specification) Should be used? Td_09_10

Note engine in the middle with the Tatone muffler has a Valentines Turbo Head you will see notch
for the cox wrench is smaller. The turbo plug gives very good compression.

Note the Cox High Compression Head has the ring of notches and is not a standard glow plug.
Note that Cox engines do not use spark plugs they use glow plugs.

The Medallion has a Charlie's Head Adapter for reference to the ebay link. I have them for .049, .09 and on one of my TD .15 nicely made adapter.

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Hello, thanks for answering. I try to explain then:
Cox 09 engine + glow plug Original + propeller Cox 7 x 3.5 + Fuel castor oil 18% - 25% nitro - methanol rest = 15190 RPM

Cox 09 engine + glow head adapter original + glow plug OS nro. 8 + propeller Cox 7 x 3.5 + Fuel castor oil 18% - 25% nitro - methanol rest = 14000/14100 RPM.
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:11 am

I repeat the details here:

Cox 09 engine + glow plug Original + propeller Cox 7 x 3.5 + Fuel castor oil 18% - 25% nitro - methanol rest = 15190 RPM

Cox 09 engine + glow head adapter original + glow plug OS nro. 8 + propeller Cox 7 x 3.5 + Fuel castor oil 18% - 25% nitro - methanol rest = 14000/14100 RPM.

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I own these plugs, which you recommend that I would be the most appropriate?

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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:12 am

I am using the spark plug I show you the caliber, I do not know the brand, does not have any number, it may be of the K & B brand, this plug works well, you can identify or know?
Fact: the height of the hexagon is 6 mm
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:16 am

This is similar to the above, but the height is 4 mm hexagon:

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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:19 am

this is the propeller test for all cases: Propeller Cox 7 x 3.5
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:26 am

Glow head adapter Original:
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Post  getback Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:36 am

I think either one would work Ok the one is K&B http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XK%26B+4520+plug.TRS0&_nkw=K%26B+4520+plug&_sacat=0 don't know heat range but the Enya #3 is a hot plug Idea Bar ?? Eric Small Cox Logo
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:52 am

getback wrote:I think either one would work Ok the one is K&B http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XK%26B+4520+plug.TRS0&_nkw=K%26B+4520+plug&_sacat=0 don't know heat range but the Enya #3 is a hot plug Idea Bar ?? Eric Small Cox Logo

thanks for answering, I will be more attentive to comments and information they can give me, thanks!!!...Mauricio.-
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:56 am

This is a photograph taken from Cox International, please anyone knows who owns plug? (Brand and features) .... is a spark plug manufactured by Cox?

http://coxengines.ca/product.php?productid=1313&cat=40&page=2

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Post  1/2A Nut Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:50 am

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cox-074-09-Queen-Bee-Tee-Dee-RC-Airplane-Engine-Glow-Plug-074-09-/281775089031?hash=item419b1aa587:g:UQMAAOSwgQ9V0MxJ

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Here you go plenty in stock these are Cox plugs for the .09 RC and the .074 RC engine
Let us know if you find them a improvement.

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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:39 pm

1/2A Nut wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cox-074-09-Queen-Bee-Tee-Dee-RC-Airplane-Engine-Glow-Plug-074-09-/281775089031?hash=item419b1aa587:g:UQMAAOSwgQ9V0MxJ

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Here you go plenty in stock these are Cox plugs for the .09 RC and the .074 RC engine
Let us know if you find them a improvement.

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Yes !!, BINGO !, then Cox is a spark plug, is why I showed that in photography, I commented that high performance noticed !. The spark that I've had, so far this is the best!
I think I will not be able to get them because there are products that do not come to my country, try to see how to get them!
If not get the spark Cox 074/09, then I'll have to settle some equivalent to enjoy the engine, even if you lose some power.
Thank you very very much!....Mauricio.-

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Post  1/2A Nut Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:33 pm

Why cant you get it?? He has a regular site too and will be able to ship to you.


Shipping: $3.95 Standard Shipping | See details

Item location: Southington, Connecticut, United States

Ships to: Worldwide

http://www.exmodelengines.com/

From his main site:
http://www.exmodelengines.com/cox-.09-tee-dee-rc-glow-plug.html

https://www.exmodelengines.com/help.php?section=contactus&mode=update
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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:58 pm

1/2A Nut wrote:Why cant you get it?? He has a regular site too and will be able to ship to you.


Shipping: $3.95 Standard Shipping | See details

Item location: Southington, Connecticut, United States

Ships to: Worldwide

http://www.exmodelengines.com/

From his main site:
http://www.exmodelengines.com/cox-.09-tee-dee-rc-glow-plug.html

https://www.exmodelengines.com/help.php?section=contactus&mode=update

Thank you very much, I'm going to get in touch with the house sold in the United States. There are some obstacles in my country for the entry of some products, they are often held in customs. Of all forms'll see if I can do something.
It is a pleasure to contact you so that has given me good information, thanks!..Mauricio.-
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Post  1/2A Nut Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:30 pm

Matt is on this site he runs the shop you can contact him directly to work out something

https://www.coxengineforum.com/privmsg?mode=post&u=39

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Post  MauricioB Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:05 pm

1/2A Nut wrote:Matt is on this site he runs the shop you can contact him directly to work out something

https://www.coxengineforum.com/privmsg?mode=post&u=39

https://www.coxengineforum.com/u39

ohh !, thanks, I'll write to see if we can do something and you can receive cox products!
Thank you!, Mauricio.- Very Happy
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Post  MauricioB Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:27 am

Hi guys, I have here made a test using the plug K & B 4530, although observed losses compared laps with Cox spark plug, for what the flight, does not affect engine performance and flight.
Greetings, Mauricio.
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