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Post  batjac Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:14 pm

Each plane I have gets its own handle, so once the lines are adjusted, they're set until the plane crashes or I want to change line length.  But, I never seem to have anyone around when I change my lines and need to adjust them for neutral elevator.  So, I use my handy dandy adjustment fixture.  After cutting my lines to length and attaching the handle, I loop the line around a handy lamp in the living room and hold the plane in my left hand while tweaking the lines in the handle in my right.  Works pretty good for Spectra lines.
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Post  RknRusty Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:15 am

Hey, good idea, Just make sure your wingtip points directly at the lamp post.

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Post  batjac Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:00 am

RknRusty wrote:Hey, good idea, Just make sure your wingtip points directly at the lamp post.

It did.  I just had to hold the plane and handle both in one hand to get the pic, thus the wing not pointing exactly at the lamp in the photo.

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Post  roddie Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:41 am

If you need to set elevator-neutral at the field, here's a handy little thing to keep in your field-box for small models. These are Popsicle sticks.. but you could use longer thin strips on models with a longer chord stab/elev.

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Post  ian1954 Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:55 am

Popsicle? You mean "lollipop" sticks

http://www.craftyarts.co.uk/kids-creativity-c7/kids-activity-packs-c435/lollipop-sticks-1000-pieces-p5426?gclid=CKbU5f2Ghr4CFTHItAodAlQAMg%3Fgclid%3DCKbU5f2Ghr4CFTHItAodAlQAMg#11742
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Post  rat9000 Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:18 am

That is one neat little trick roddie,anything else up your sleeve! Its off topic but I was tapping crankcase 2 56 holes this morning on gummed up 049s, using wd 40, working engines as I went.Ran out of wd, found some Liquid Wrench it freed engines up right now.The stuff was black coming out of engines.
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Post  Cribbs74 Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:21 am

ian1954 wrote:Popsicle? You mean "lollipop" sticks

http://www.craftyarts.co.uk/kids-creativity-c7/kids-activity-packs-c435/lollipop-sticks-1000-pieces-p5426?gclid=CKbU5f2Ghr4CFTHItAodAlQAMg%3Fgclid%3DCKbU5f2Ghr4CFTHItAodAlQAMg#11742

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Great Idea Mark and Roddie for that matter. That should help when I am alone.

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Post  roddie Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:26 am

ian1954 wrote:Popsicle? You mean "lollipop" sticks

http://www.craftyarts.co.uk/kids-creativity-c7/kids-activity-packs-c435/lollipop-sticks-1000-pieces-p5426?gclid=CKbU5f2Ghr4CFTHItAodAlQAMg%3Fgclid%3DCKbU5f2Ghr4CFTHItAodAlQAMg#11742

"Craft Sticks" actually... in standard and "Super" sizes.

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I do so much scratch-building/designing.. that I like to have things like this on hand.

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Post  roddie Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:45 am

Mark.. sorry to derail your thread. If you're at the field alone and want to actually see the degree of elevator deflection using your idea; just bring a round tent stake with you and stick it in the ground at the 1/2-way distance of your lines to center-circle... and walk your handle back to the airplane. Even if you're flying over pavement.. there's usually grass/dirt nearby for set-up.
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Post  rat9000 Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:19 am

Mark,I was taking a second look at your plane,I'd like to see a couple of pictures of it.Whats the wood.Tks rat (Mark)
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Post  batjac Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:17 pm

roddie wrote:Mark.. sorry to derail your thread. If you're at the field alone and want to actually see the degree of elevator deflection using your idea; just bring a round tent stake with you and stick it in the ground at the 1/2-way distance of your lines to center-circle... and walk your handle back to the airplane. Even if you're flying over pavement.. there's usually grass/dirt nearby for set-up.

Roddie, I'm not a serious pattern flyer.  Hobbies lose their fun when I get too serious about them.  Other than the detail for the Reed Speed plane, I just make my planes look nice, and then turn them loose.  I just like to go roundy-roundy with the occasional loopdy-loop.  Once the lines are set up initially, I don't find a need to tweak them at the field.  Good enough is good enough for my kind of flying.

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Post  batjac Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:23 pm

rat9000 wrote:Mark,I was taking a second look at your plane,I'd like to see a couple of pictures of it.Whats the wood.Tks rat (Mark)

Rat, the wood is just plain balsa. The plane is my BTC-2 from this thread:

https://www.coxengineforum.com/t6512-the-btc-2-build

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Post  roddie Thu May 01, 2014 2:16 am

batjac wrote:
roddie wrote:Mark.. sorry to derail your thread. If you're at the field alone and want to actually see the degree of elevator deflection using your idea; just bring a round tent stake with you and stick it in the ground at the 1/2-way distance of your lines to center-circle... and walk your handle back to the airplane. Even if you're flying over pavement.. there's usually grass/dirt nearby for set-up.

Roddie, I'm not a serious pattern flyer.  Hobbies lose their fun when I get too serious about them.  Other than the detail for the Reed Speed plane, I just make my planes look nice, and then turn them loose.  I just like to go roundy-roundy with the occasional loopdy-loop.  Once the lines are set up initially, I don't find a need to tweak them at the field.  Good enough is good enough for my kind of flying.

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You know Mark; you and I have very similar aeromodeling interests, as well as skill-sets. Building/designing has always given me a lot of pleasure over actual flying. The amount of small of small 1/2A C/L airplanes that I have, greatly outnumbers my larger models with built-up construction. This season I'm looking to finally finish a couple of bigger models because of their increased performance, slower speed and the ability to penetrate breezy weather better than the small ones. I like the idea behind your BTC series though.. and you are very right about keeping it fun.
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Post  getback Thu May 01, 2014 8:13 pm

Mark did you fly the btc 1 ? just read the other tread , would like to see the out come of this build  Biplane I have one of those engines and was woundering what I could do with it  Huh... nice I understand the extra wood for strength , but the monakote is easier to repair  lol! Getback
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Post  getback Thu May 01, 2014 8:31 pm

Mark, My Dad talks sometimes about when they flew back I would say in 1948 or so that they would just cut some pieces from plywood and fly knowing they would be fixing them soon as to not take a lot of time to build one , and material was slim for a child . I am sure they were using large ignition engines though with prop buster on them lol! Food foe thought I guesss Popcorn  Two Cents  Flying Getback
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