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Cox Engine of The Month
Dieselised Cox Engines
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Dieselised Cox Engines
I am still plugging away at this and I am getting closer to satisfactory results. Not there yet though!
I know a lot of people have sent me fine examples of dieselised cox engines ( What is the plural of Cox? Is it Coxes like Foxes?) like the Davis Diesel conversions but I have tried them and they don't meet my requirements. Performance and fuel economy.
Through quite a bit of testing, it has become obvious to me that a straight head conversion eats diesel fuel and it has to be balanced with alterations to the venturi size. This is trial and error.
I have it sussed for the TD 049s and Medallion 049s but the Bee (reed valve) is still work in progress. It is easy to flood a Bee with disastrous consequences.
It isn't only the crankshaft to be worried about!
The missing broken con rod in the photograph also took the crankcase with it! I can't remember what I did with it or I would post a picture, it poked a hole through the side!
Anyway, I have progressed with the TD and installed an RC carburettor. Still needs a but of fine tuning but diesels tend not to like RC carburettors but this one is promising.
Now for the Bee. This runs and starts well but is still drawing too much fuel. I need to restrict the venturi but, one step at a time, too many changes in one go makes it hard to troubleshoot. It will be easier now that I know the engine is a runner as is!
The wooden mount I used is not very secure. I now refer to the engine as the "Wiggly Bee" (see video!)
I know a lot of people have sent me fine examples of dieselised cox engines ( What is the plural of Cox? Is it Coxes like Foxes?) like the Davis Diesel conversions but I have tried them and they don't meet my requirements. Performance and fuel economy.
Through quite a bit of testing, it has become obvious to me that a straight head conversion eats diesel fuel and it has to be balanced with alterations to the venturi size. This is trial and error.
I have it sussed for the TD 049s and Medallion 049s but the Bee (reed valve) is still work in progress. It is easy to flood a Bee with disastrous consequences.
It isn't only the crankshaft to be worried about!
The missing broken con rod in the photograph also took the crankcase with it! I can't remember what I did with it or I would post a picture, it poked a hole through the side!
Anyway, I have progressed with the TD and installed an RC carburettor. Still needs a but of fine tuning but diesels tend not to like RC carburettors but this one is promising.
Now for the Bee. This runs and starts well but is still drawing too much fuel. I need to restrict the venturi but, one step at a time, too many changes in one go makes it hard to troubleshoot. It will be easier now that I know the engine is a runner as is!
The wooden mount I used is not very secure. I now refer to the engine as the "Wiggly Bee" (see video!)
ian1954- Diamond Member
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Re: Dieselised Cox Engines
Good stuff Ian!
Are you balancing your props? It may account for some of the shaking. Although it could be the c-clamp is not up to the task.
Off topic, I thought sussed meant inebriated based off of this Who song I learned something new today......
Hey you getting drunk, so sorry!
I've got you sussed.
Hey you smoking Mother Nature!
This is a bust!
Hey hung up old Mr. Normal,
Don't try to gain my trust!
'Cause you ain't gonna follow me any of those ways
Although you think you must
Are you balancing your props? It may account for some of the shaking. Although it could be the c-clamp is not up to the task.
Off topic, I thought sussed meant inebriated based off of this Who song I learned something new today......
Hey you getting drunk, so sorry!
I've got you sussed.
Hey you smoking Mother Nature!
This is a bust!
Hey hung up old Mr. Normal,
Don't try to gain my trust!
'Cause you ain't gonna follow me any of those ways
Although you think you must
Cribbs74- Moderator
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Location : Tuttle, OK
Re: Dieselised Cox Engines
Suss is English slang
1. To infer or discover; figure out: "I think I'm good at sussing out what's going on".
2. To size up; study: "Suss out the designers in whom you are interested".
3. To understand; be aware; know what is going on: " I have it sussed"
A lot of English "slang" words have different meanings depending on the circumstances where they are used.
I am from Yorkshire and we have a word there
ayup
It is a Barnsley dialect (Town in Yorkshire)
It generally used as a greeting but can also be used as an expression of shock, or to ask someone how they are, or to tell them that you don't believe them!
"You have one word that means Hello, How are you, Whats this, Hang on a minute and bloody hell! (Ayup..)"
ian1954- Diamond Member
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Age : 70
Location : England
Re: Dieselised Cox Engines
I never had much luck with Tee Dees as diesel. I would always have to chase the needle around. Medallions seem to fair better. I actually snapped the rod on a Tee Dee in the same place you have. It first started to bend and I did not quite notice. I just turned up the compression a tad. Then it just gave way on a good flip. Did not cause any issue with the case, though. The large venturi definitely causes issues for the Diesel Dee.
I have always liked my Babe Bees as diesel. It really wakes them up. The small venturi makes for good draw and nice run times, but very easy to flood. Which is where the crank and rod issues start to arise. The stock crank can last for a while on good, light fuel.
OS SF and La/FP make good diesel converts as well. My largest two are an OS 25 SF and a parts made Thunder Tiger 25 GP. The GP gets about 11,400 on a 10x6. 11x4 yielded roughly 10,600. Hauled my dads Skyray around at 3 seconds per lap. On glow it gets about 7 seconds. While it was still RC the SF had a very strong idle of 2,500 with a similar top end as the GP. Just a few hundred higher. It could idle lower but it tended to cool off too much making the pick up rough. Saddly, I had to stop using it as the rear bearing started to go out. It is dismantled and is awaiting new bearings and a properly made venturi.
Love the engine pics!
Godsey
I have always liked my Babe Bees as diesel. It really wakes them up. The small venturi makes for good draw and nice run times, but very easy to flood. Which is where the crank and rod issues start to arise. The stock crank can last for a while on good, light fuel.
OS SF and La/FP make good diesel converts as well. My largest two are an OS 25 SF and a parts made Thunder Tiger 25 GP. The GP gets about 11,400 on a 10x6. 11x4 yielded roughly 10,600. Hauled my dads Skyray around at 3 seconds per lap. On glow it gets about 7 seconds. While it was still RC the SF had a very strong idle of 2,500 with a similar top end as the GP. Just a few hundred higher. It could idle lower but it tended to cool off too much making the pick up rough. Saddly, I had to stop using it as the rear bearing started to go out. It is dismantled and is awaiting new bearings and a properly made venturi.
Love the engine pics!
Godsey
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