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Post  SuperDave Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:16 am

In light of the recent Reno air racing tradgedy, one can't help wonder if a different format might be devised to improve the safety of such an event?

Racing has a long history in both automobiles and aircraft. Early automobiles manufactureer promoted their cars on the race track as did Henry Ford with old "999" the first car to travel "a mile a minute". (GASP!) Not too long after came the famed track at Indianapolis and the "Indy 500". And so to did air racing evolve as did the concerns about safety. ("Indy", once known as "The Brickyard" was resurface due to safety concerns)

So I pose to you the question, want what would you do to imprved the safety at the Reno Air Races?

Anyone?
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Post  SuperDave Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:18 am

SuperDave wrote:In light of the recent Reno air racing tradgedy, one can't help wonder if a different format might be devised to improve the safety of such an event?

Racing has a long history in both automobiles and aircraft. Early automobiles manufactureers promoted their cars on the race track as did Henry Ford with old "999" the first car to travel "a mile a minute". (GASP!) Not too long after came the famed track at Indianapolis and the "Indy 500". And so to did air racing evolve as did the concerns about safety. ("Indy", once known as "The Brickyard" was resurfaced due to safety concerns)

So I pose to you the question, what would you do to imprved the safety of the Reno Air Races?

Anyone?

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Post  nitroairplane Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:22 am

Lots of the ww2 planes came from racers.
Like the spitfire. It's predecessor was a racer from around 1934.
Maybe a limit how close to the ground you are allowed to fly?
Or maybe more scrutenouse pre flight checks.
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Post  SuperDave Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:32 am

"Maybe a limit how close to the ground you are allowed to fly?" - nitro

That could be done with a holograhpic image similar to flight simulator. Good suggestion!

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Post  GermanBeez Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:12 am

a heart rate and conciousness monitor and a button you continue to press and release so the plane knows that the pilot is still in command. like the security system on a train. also, air racing pilots should undergo frequent stress testing and have their blood work analyzed.
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:16 am

SuperDave wrote:"Maybe a limit how close to the ground you are allowed to fly?" - nitro

That could be done with a holograhpic image similar to flight simulator. Good suggestion!

SD

Yeah holographic that is good and yes pilot testing regularly would be great.
But I'm just throwing out ideas because I don't actually know what safety measures are already in place.
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Post  SuperDave Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:00 pm

I find the holographic images on my Real Flite G5.5 sim plenty challenging as is but making them even MORE challenging is virtually scarier.. For now the default mode is plenty to handle especially if I've been away from the sim for a while.

A sim is a wonderfful learning aid as well as a "refresher" of skill that you THOUGHT you had. The trick is to analyse the REASON for crashes rather than laugh at your stupidity and carelessness.

Haven't seen much mention of sims here. I wonder why? I "fly" mine at regular intervals.

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Post  nitroairplane Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:17 pm

I recently bought x plane 9 but the joystick
I bought is not mac compatible so I will have to get another one
Gggrrr more things to buy.
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Post  GermanBeez Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:33 pm

i have fsx. i looove it. but i didnt go the extra mile to get a fancy flight yoke or something. i have my trusty microsoft sidewinder, which came out with fs2000, and i still love the dear old thing.
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Post  SuperDave Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:13 pm

I went the Real Flite G5.5 route because it features a simulated Tx that looks and functions like a real Tx with all it's functions. ergo "Real Flite": "As good as it gets".

I got the Real Flite from Tower Hobbies with a promotional discount a little over year ago. I don't consider it expensive for the "crashes" it has helped me prevent when one good "wipe out" could cost more than the sim.. And the sim ALWAYS recovers from the "crash" unscathed to fly again. Just hit "reset" and shazzzam you're back in business.

The sim has some 40 planes of nealy every description to fly at a huge variety of locations and under a variety of climatic conditions: clear, cloudy, VERY cloudy, day/nite, wind velocity and durection, snow/ice etc.

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Post  nitroairplane Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:38 pm

SuperDave wrote:I went the Real Flite G5.5 route because it features a simulated Tx that looks and functions like a real Tx with all it's functions. ergo "Real Flite": "As good as it gets".

I got the Real Flite from Tower Hobbies with a promotional discount a little over year ago. I don't consider it expensive for the "crashes" it has helped me prevent when one good "wipe out" could cost more than the sim.. And the sim ALWAYS recovers from the "crash" unscathed to fly again. Just hit "reset" and shazzzam you're back in business.

The sim has some 40 planes of nealy every description to fly at a huge variety of locations and under a variety of climatic conditions: clear, cloudy, VERY cloudy, day/nite, wind velocity and durection, snow/ice etc.

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Is it good for 3d planes?
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Post  PV Pilot Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:40 pm

I don't think there is any real way to make air racing more safe. You can move the grandstands back 200 yds,,but even at that,,it's a airplane. As well all know, any form of motorsports is inherently dangerous and there are some things that are completely out of anyones hands.

I think one of the requirements to help in such an event, is for the pilot to have a extended number of hours in THAT specific airframe that they are going to race. To know all if that airframes nuances and ticks, to know it inside and out with wrench time included, then many more hours of just practice time with obervation before allowing to race. I'm sure that is the case with a few of the teams, but I don't think there are any real guidelines for something like that.

The instant rich that are allowed to buy and then race a old P-51 or air racer of any kind should not be allowed unless/until they meet the requirement above.

Just my thoughts. Opinions??
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:44 pm

PV:
i like that rich people who just by 'n' fly are dangerous just like rc guys who buy an rtf pitts for there first plane.
make them build one then they will feel the pain in the heart because they wont feel it in the wallet when it crashes.
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