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Flight Battery Pack
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Flight Battery Pack
Looking for information on what we're using now for light RX packs in our small glow powered planes. LIPO W/bec? Tips on were to buy?
mail4dean@aol.com- New Member
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
Welcome to the CEF
I use 1/3AAA Ni Mh 4.8V accu pack for my smallest, COX TeeDee010 engine powered RC planes.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/122165361905?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=h2N0B68PQuS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=rP7YBAVdSR2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I buy them on ebay.
The pack weighs around 15 gramms.
2cell LiPo packs at 7.2V would be lighter with a step-down voltage controller, but the controller also adds weight.
My larger, TeeDee 020 size engines drive planes that run on the same NiMh 4.8V but made of 2/3AAAsize batteries.
I use 1/3AAA Ni Mh 4.8V accu pack for my smallest, COX TeeDee010 engine powered RC planes.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/122165361905?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=h2N0B68PQuS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=rP7YBAVdSR2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I buy them on ebay.
The pack weighs around 15 gramms.
2cell LiPo packs at 7.2V would be lighter with a step-down voltage controller, but the controller also adds weight.
My larger, TeeDee 020 size engines drive planes that run on the same NiMh 4.8V but made of 2/3AAAsize batteries.
balogh- Top Poster
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
As well as the small “Vapex” receiver packs, I also use high voltage receivers/servos with an unregulated 2S Lipo.
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Ada99- Moderate Poster
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
Ada99 wrote:As well as the small “Vapex” receiver packs, I also use high voltage receivers/servos with an unregulated 2S Lipo.
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Is the voltage of unregulated 2S LiPo not too high for the receiver and servos that typically work at ~6Volts max?
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
Because of the possibility that the 7.6 Volt output of the 2S may damage the sensitive receiver and servo electronics that are not rated for such (old analog discrete electronics of the 1950's - 1970's without IC's were more tolerant), some form of voltage regulation would be required.balogh wrote:Is the voltage of unregulated 2S LiPo not too high for the receiver and servos that typically work at ~6Volts max?Ada99 wrote:As well as the small “Vapex” receiver packs, I also use high voltage receivers/servos with an unregulated 2S Lipo.
=Adrian=
In the past, I used a zener diode and resistor network to provide such simple regulation. Resistor would limit current and a 6.0 V zener would shunt excessive voltage to ground. It worked like a charm on a milliammeter that I used as an ESV - expanded scale voltmeter for my Ace R/C Pulse Commander transmitter. With a new 9 V dry cell battery (an old brick about 1/3rd the size of a 6 V lattern battery), with a new battery it would show full scale. At below 7 volts, it would show 0 V.
The zener is installed backwards to a normal diode. If installed the other way, it acts as a "short". Since it would provide a constant current drain, one would need to calculate what worst case current draw is for the receiver plus servos. But I leave this as an academic consideration, as it is another possibility to be explored, might be OK given the higher capacity of the 2S pack versus NiMh battery packs.
For me, NiMh provides a simpler solution, since I don't fly indoor ultra lightweights.
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
balogh wrote:Ada99 wrote:As well as the small “Vapex” receiver packs, I also use high voltage receivers/servos with an unregulated 2S Lipo.
=Adrian=
Is the voltage of unregulated 2S LiPo not too high for the receiver and servos that typically work at ~6Volts max?
Yes - but receivers and servos are available that can cope with 2S lipo. I’m currenlty using Frsky TFR4 4.6g receivers (max 10v), Blue Bird BMS-101HV 4.4g servos (max 8.4v), SD100 4.7g servos (max 9.6v).
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Ada99- Moderate Poster
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
My Radiolink gear is 6vlt max. I found these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09WKCBXKK/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A2XZ0PQGR3TYBH&psc=1
$6.00 ea @ 11 grams
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09WKCBXKK/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A2XZ0PQGR3TYBH&psc=1
$6.00 ea @ 11 grams
mail4dean@aol.com- New Member
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
This is good to know, Adrian. I have older radios that lack that tolerance. However I have a bit of reluctance in any new R/C investments, seeing that the US FAA is requiring transponder equipment next Fall, above and beyond what other nations are doing. Further discussion would be better a separate thread, but my current sentiments for focus on C/L and F/F.Ada99 wrote:Yes - but receivers and servos are available that can cope with 2S lipo. I’m currenlty using Frsky TFR4 4.6g receivers (max 10v), Blue Bird BMS-101HV 4.4g servos (max 8.4v), SD100 4.7g servos (max 9.6v). =Adrian=balogh wrote:Is the voltage of unregulated 2S LiPo not too high for the receiver and servos that typically work at ~6Volts max?Ada99 wrote:As well as the small “Vapex” receiver packs, I also use high voltage receivers/servos with an unregulated 2S Lipo.
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
Your post about new drone rules had me do a search. Wow, how's that boot feel on your neck comrade?
crankbndr- Top Poster
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
Strange, but in the EU so far the internal combustion engine powered "drones" like my beloved COX powered RC planes are not yet classified in the main C0.....C3 drone classes, that are all electric powered and some need to be equipped with tranponders and gadgetry.
IC engine powered drones are expected to fall in C4 which at the moment has a very loose definition and no transponders are specified as mandatory accessories.
Check whether the FAA rules in the US are equally slack in defining the IC engine powered drones...you may even be pleasantly surprised as I was..
IC engine powered drones are expected to fall in C4 which at the moment has a very loose definition and no transponders are specified as mandatory accessories.
Check whether the FAA rules in the US are equally slack in defining the IC engine powered drones...you may even be pleasantly surprised as I was..
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
András, so that we do not drift too far off topic, I have moved replies regarding US drone legislation to:
https://www.coxengineforum.com/t17321-faa-proposed-model-aircraft-id-transponders#224326
(Sorry! It was I that started the off-topic drift. )
https://www.coxengineforum.com/t17321-faa-proposed-model-aircraft-id-transponders#224326
(Sorry! It was I that started the off-topic drift. )
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Re: Flight Battery Pack
For my small one, I use a Spektrum 300 mAh Life battery pack.
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