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Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
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Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
Good day,
I am new at building airplane kits … and loving it. I have a kit from Cox (Banana Kit, 049) and am not sure of the electronics needed.
I believe I need a transmitter, receiver, battery and servos.
I would like to control the rudder, elevator and throttle. So it is a basic setup, nothing fancy. For a complete beginner (me)
I am assuming I will likely crash this model pretty quick but it is all about the learning process.
Could any knowledgeable expert point me in the right directions for the electronics? I obviously need it light.
Thanks in advance.
I am new at building airplane kits … and loving it. I have a kit from Cox (Banana Kit, 049) and am not sure of the electronics needed.
I believe I need a transmitter, receiver, battery and servos.
I would like to control the rudder, elevator and throttle. So it is a basic setup, nothing fancy. For a complete beginner (me)
I am assuming I will likely crash this model pretty quick but it is all about the learning process.
Could any knowledgeable expert point me in the right directions for the electronics? I obviously need it light.
Thanks in advance.
MJRoberts- New Member
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Age : 64
Location : Victoria,bc
Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
MJ Roberts
Get familiar with several web sites...probably best for beginner RC flight IMO is RC Groups
Cox International sells this version of the Israel RC Banana
https://coxengines.ca/model-airplane-rc-kit-banana-standard.html
If this is the plane you have folks here on this site can get you in the right direction for the control equipment
Tower, or Brodak, or Hobby King is where you will buy most of not all the radio equipment...this assume you have no local hobby store like most of us
I personally do NOT recommend some super duper wiz bang 11~18 channel computer radio for first transmitter...you have a simple model to learn on so I humbly suggest en equally simple and efficient low cost set of electronics
4 or 5 channel Spectrum Transmitter, Hobby King Orange Receiver, Small servos, and simple Light weight battery.... some one will be here in a few to recommend specift items
You will need the Cox engine and all starting equipment and fuel
You will need a multi chemistry Battery charger
YOU ...and I am serious about this..really need to seek out a RC club near you and get into their beginner Pilot training program....
and a final suggestion...the Banana RC 2=3 Chanel is a delicate and easy to destroy airplane but once in competent pilots hands a LOT of fun...I highly recommend you buy an inexpensive Foam E-flite high wing electric RTF trainer aircraft
Like this
https://www.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJBVK&P=0
or this
https://www.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHDAM&P=0
I learned RC flite on the Apprentice electric high wing foam trainer....$299 sounds high but EVERY thing is in the kit...including battery charger
Get familiar with several web sites...probably best for beginner RC flight IMO is RC Groups
Cox International sells this version of the Israel RC Banana
https://coxengines.ca/model-airplane-rc-kit-banana-standard.html
If this is the plane you have folks here on this site can get you in the right direction for the control equipment
Tower, or Brodak, or Hobby King is where you will buy most of not all the radio equipment...this assume you have no local hobby store like most of us
I personally do NOT recommend some super duper wiz bang 11~18 channel computer radio for first transmitter...you have a simple model to learn on so I humbly suggest en equally simple and efficient low cost set of electronics
4 or 5 channel Spectrum Transmitter, Hobby King Orange Receiver, Small servos, and simple Light weight battery.... some one will be here in a few to recommend specift items
You will need the Cox engine and all starting equipment and fuel
You will need a multi chemistry Battery charger
YOU ...and I am serious about this..really need to seek out a RC club near you and get into their beginner Pilot training program....
and a final suggestion...the Banana RC 2=3 Chanel is a delicate and easy to destroy airplane but once in competent pilots hands a LOT of fun...I highly recommend you buy an inexpensive Foam E-flite high wing electric RTF trainer aircraft
Like this
https://www.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJBVK&P=0
or this
https://www.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHDAM&P=0
I learned RC flite on the Apprentice electric high wing foam trainer....$299 sounds high but EVERY thing is in the kit...including battery charger
fredvon4- Top Poster
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Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
Wow, so many thanks for the information fredvon4. Excellent advice too. I will pursue the foam model as a trainer and seek out some pilot training too.
Thanks
Thanks
MJRoberts- New Member
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Age : 64
Location : Victoria,bc
Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
MJ... trust me brother every one here on CEF wants you to have a great experience building and flying YOUR FIRST MODEL
WE are the ones who persevered way back with the early Cox Plastic crap RTF junk...
WE are a slowly dying community
Therefore I/We want you to succeed.... Building and successfully flying YOUR first Balsa model is a challenge... using a Cox small engine it self is a new challenge, setting up and trimming a Remote Controlled Airplane is yet another challenge
Lots of people wade right in and are successful...others are frustrated and take up pottery or knitting...grin
in this case I recommend NOT to be in a hurry...
You will need to learn a bunch of skills building that model
I might also suggest you got to Sig or Brodak and pick a cheap 1/2a model to learn on
Sig Sky Ray
The Sky ray is $16
https://sigmfg.com/collections/control-line-kits
Brodak
Right now the Brodak Zero is half price at $21..
http://brodak.com/control-line-kits/brodak/1-2-a-series.html?dir=asc&limit=40&order=price
Point is you will learn fast on these rather inexpensive models how to glue...what glue
How to rig the controls and what materiel's you need to finish the control system
How to paint and FUEL proof the aircraft and what system you want to use
That Banana is a fairly sophisticated air plane ...and a tad pricey...might as well wait to learn some skills so you can build and finish it into the premier model you are right now all Jonesing about
and I have an ulterior motive...the two plane I suggest are Control Line in so much as you need a handle and fishing line to make them go round and round up n down in a circle....you will learn a LOT about powered model aircraft flight with this experience...
WE are the ones who persevered way back with the early Cox Plastic crap RTF junk...
WE are a slowly dying community
Therefore I/We want you to succeed.... Building and successfully flying YOUR first Balsa model is a challenge... using a Cox small engine it self is a new challenge, setting up and trimming a Remote Controlled Airplane is yet another challenge
Lots of people wade right in and are successful...others are frustrated and take up pottery or knitting...grin
in this case I recommend NOT to be in a hurry...
You will need to learn a bunch of skills building that model
I might also suggest you got to Sig or Brodak and pick a cheap 1/2a model to learn on
Sig Sky Ray
The Sky ray is $16
https://sigmfg.com/collections/control-line-kits
Brodak
Right now the Brodak Zero is half price at $21..
http://brodak.com/control-line-kits/brodak/1-2-a-series.html?dir=asc&limit=40&order=price
Point is you will learn fast on these rather inexpensive models how to glue...what glue
How to rig the controls and what materiel's you need to finish the control system
How to paint and FUEL proof the aircraft and what system you want to use
That Banana is a fairly sophisticated air plane ...and a tad pricey...might as well wait to learn some skills so you can build and finish it into the premier model you are right now all Jonesing about
and I have an ulterior motive...the two plane I suggest are Control Line in so much as you need a handle and fishing line to make them go round and round up n down in a circle....you will learn a LOT about powered model aircraft flight with this experience...
Last edited by fredvon4 on Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:00 am; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
MJRoberts. Hi there from just a bit east of you! I love your location. Anyways, all the above information is great. As well, Cox International is in Williams Lake, BC. WIth that said, I persoanlly would recommend looking on Kijiji for a used radio, or possibly look for a local flying club and talk to them. Someone there may have a good cheap starter set-up for sale cheap as well. I persoanlly have and like my older Spektrum Dx6i. It is my first 'computer' radio and found it very easy to use and program. Nothing wrong with a Dx5e, or even a Dx4, but the 6i is just a step above. I first bought a Dx5e and still have it, but use my 6i more. With the Spektrum, you can use the Orange Rx receivers, and Lemon Rx receivers. They are both cheap and work well. But I would not stop you from using a genuine Spektrum Rx. Good luck with your venture, and if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
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Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
MJRoberts. Here is a link to MAACs website in which lists the affiliated clubs in BC. There may be a couple small clubs not affilliated either, but you would have to sniff them out yourself. Hope this helps.
https://www.maac.ca/en/clubs_by_zone.php?zone_code=H
https://www.maac.ca/en/clubs_by_zone.php?zone_code=H
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Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
Thanks everyone for excellent advice. Such a fun hobby and will be expanding it as I become more experienced. I will likely be drawing on the experience of members of this forum as my hobby grows.
MJRoberts- New Member
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Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
So MJ give us an intro
we know you are in Canada
Experience
Age
Other hobbies
Ever played with toys before? kidding
Like sniffing glue?... wife? Wife who will allow dope in the house?
Inquiring minds yadda yadda...this is where a grin icon goes
Curious Fred or Phred your choice
we know you are in Canada
Experience
Age
Other hobbies
Ever played with toys before? kidding
Like sniffing glue?... wife? Wife who will allow dope in the house?
Inquiring minds yadda yadda...this is where a grin icon goes
Curious Fred or Phred your choice
fredvon4- Top Poster
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Posts : 4012
Join date : 2011-08-26
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Location : Lampasas Texas
Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
I have flown many control line planes when I was in my early teens, I have built all of my models and crashed exactly that many … lol. I started build Carl Goldberg's models mostly and engines sizes differed from .020 to .15s. I live in Victoria, BC and today I believe I am 58. I work as a Computer programmer/Analyst. I have so many hobbies. I love fishing (fresh and salt water) and wifey and I love using our travel trailer. We travel to the states a lot as well as different place here in Canada. I still do the occasional backpack trip with friends and do a lot of hiking. Wifey says no dope in the house … so I am always in the garage lol (this can be interpreted two ways)
I want to retire within the next 5 years so I better have something to do otherwise Deb (wife) will find stuff for me to do …
I want to retire within the next 5 years so I better have something to do otherwise Deb (wife) will find stuff for me to do …
MJRoberts- New Member
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Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
Other than modern 2.4 GHz equipment, perhaps a Cox RC system will be good for a Cox plane kit:
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3093638-Cox-Icon-3-channel-w-receiver-ESC-2-servos
Cox Icon servos available at:
http://selecthobbies.com/radioequipmentdata.htm
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3093638-Cox-Icon-3-channel-w-receiver-ESC-2-servos
Cox Icon servos available at:
http://selecthobbies.com/radioequipmentdata.htm
Levent Suberk- Diamond Member
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Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
Hey there MJ! Welcome to the addiction!
Great advice so far. The only thing I might add would be to consider getting a flight simulator if you have no RC experience, especially if there aren't a lot people around to help you learn the ropes. I use the Realflight RF7.5 sim and feel comfortable recommending it. I think version 8 is the one currently being sold. A flight simulator won't replace actual flight instruction but it will definitely flatten your learning curve. They're a lot of fun to play with too. Best of all, regardless of the weather outside, it's always a perfect day for flying.
Great advice so far. The only thing I might add would be to consider getting a flight simulator if you have no RC experience, especially if there aren't a lot people around to help you learn the ropes. I use the Realflight RF7.5 sim and feel comfortable recommending it. I think version 8 is the one currently being sold. A flight simulator won't replace actual flight instruction but it will definitely flatten your learning curve. They're a lot of fun to play with too. Best of all, regardless of the weather outside, it's always a perfect day for flying.
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Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
-I would try to use 2.4 radio if possible, for the cost its worth it. Spectrums are great Tx.
-Hobby King is a good source.
- R/C simulator is a fun tool.
- 1/2a powered glider type is probably the best to learn on, low cost and slow, with time to react.
And the best advice i can give is: when first learning and the plane is coming toward you, turn away from plane and fly over shoulder, it quickly becomes natural as there's no left is right, right is left, turn stick toward low wing, etc., etc..
If you not gonna build (at first) and just wanna learn, you may look at a basic powered glider: https://hobbyking.com/en_us/aircraft/planes/all-planes.html?wrh=2%2C3&plane_use=7288
-Hobby King is a good source.
- R/C simulator is a fun tool.
- 1/2a powered glider type is probably the best to learn on, low cost and slow, with time to react.
And the best advice i can give is: when first learning and the plane is coming toward you, turn away from plane and fly over shoulder, it quickly becomes natural as there's no left is right, right is left, turn stick toward low wing, etc., etc..
If you not gonna build (at first) and just wanna learn, you may look at a basic powered glider: https://hobbyking.com/en_us/aircraft/planes/all-planes.html?wrh=2%2C3&plane_use=7288
Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
Welcome to the Forum RJRoberts , i am glad you brought this up am looking for something to train on before i put some Balsa Battleship in the air ! I have most of what i need addceipt for RX and servos for Spektrum DX6i And some radio nolaige
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Re: Micro Flight Pack for 049 kit
I apologize for my posts sounding like you were a total noob to model building
Again welcome to CEF
Again welcome to CEF
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