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Post  Ivanhoe Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:09 am

Does anyone have a good, basic, recipe for nitro glow fuel?
Also, similar for diesel? There are so many mixtures floating around today, most of them using ingredients I've never heard of, that I need it simplified enough so that my aged brain can get around it.
Back in the days when I was young and foolish, and you could buy all ingredients for diesel fuel (Including Ether) over the counter in the local chemists, we always mixed our own, but I expect that the Heath & Safety Gestapo have put a stop to all that now, so suggestions for getting the necessary ingredients would also be appreciated.
I know this has been discussed at length here before, but I just get more confused the more I read, so please bear with me Rolling Eyes
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Post  Godsey3.0 Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:30 am

I never thought about mixing my own nitro fuel. I would guess you could just mimic the amounts of the regular fuel you would use. I do not know where to get the ingredients though.
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:33 am

Wilf,

Glowfuel
  • Methanol 50%
  • Castor oil 25%
  • Nitromethane25%


Diesel
  • 1/3 ether
  • 1/3 kerosene or automotive diesel but kero is better.
  • 1/3 castor oil
  • And if possible a few drops of isopropyl nitrate or amsoil cetane booster


Hope this helps.
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Post  Ivanhoe Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:21 am

nitroairplane wrote:Wilf,

Glowfuel
  • Methanol 50%
  • Castor oil 25%
  • Nitromethane25%


Diesel
  • 1/3 ether
  • 1/3 kerosene or automotive diesel but kero is better.
  • 1/3 castor oil
  • And if possible a few drops of isopropyl nitrate or amsoil cetane booster


Hope this helps.
Indra

That's exactly what I need, Indra, many thanks, just one question...........

what are isopropyl nitrate and amsoil cetane booster????? (Never was any good at chemistry!!) (Should cetane be octane?)

Wilf
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:02 am

Nope it is cetane booster.
They are ignition improvers for "real" diesels.
ISP propyl nitrate is sometimes sold for human consumption as poppers.
(a legal stimulant) but do not ingest it!
They are not essential but they do help.
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Post  andrew Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:02 am

Glow fuel:

22.5% nitro
17.0% castor oil
4.25% synthetic oil
56.25% methanol

The oil works out to be a 20/80 synthetic/castor ratio.

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Post  Ivanhoe Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:15 am

Ivanhoe wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:Wilf,

Glowfuel
  • Methanol 50%
  • Castor oil 25%
  • Nitromethane25%


Diesel
  • 1/3 ether
  • 1/3 kerosene or automotive diesel but kero is better.
  • 1/3 castor oil
  • And if possible a few drops of isopropyl nitrate or amsoil cetane booster


Hope this helps.
Indra

Well, getting the castor and kerosene is no problem, I seem to remember a discussion about the difficulties of getting the rest going on for a while here before, was it ever solved?

Wilf
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:23 am

John Deere starting fluid is 80% ether and 20% hexan and that can be treated as kerosene.
Ether is used in the manufacture of crystal meth.
So it is hard to get.
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Post  John Goddard Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:28 am

Ivanhoe wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:Wilf,

Glowfuel
  • Methanol 50%
  • Castor oil 25%
  • Nitromethane25%


Diesel
  • 1/3 ether
  • 1/3 kerosene or automotive diesel but kero is better.
  • 1/3 castor oil
  • And if possible a few drops of isopropyl nitrate or amsoil cetane booster


Hope this helps.
Indra

That's exactly what I need, Indra, many thanks, just one question...........

what are isopropyl nitrate and amsoil cetane booster????? (Never was any good at chemistry!!) (Should cetane be octane?)

Wilf

Millers Dieselclean from your local Halfrauds Wilf. Cetane is the Diesel Equivalent
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:37 am

John Goddard wrote:
Ivanhoe wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:Wilf,

Glowfuel
  • Methanol 50%
  • Castor oil 25%
  • Nitromethane25%


Diesel
  • 1/3 ether
  • 1/3 kerosene or automotive diesel but kero is better.
  • 1/3 castor oil
  • And if possible a few drops of isopropyl nitrate or amsoil cetane booster


Hope this helps.
Indra

That's exactly what I need, Indra, many thanks, just one question...........

what are isopropyl nitrate and amsoil cetane booster????? (Never was any good at chemistry!!) (Should cetane be octane?)

Wilf

Millers Dieselclean from your local Halfrauds Wilf. Cetane is the Diesel Equivalent

You try that PAW yet?
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Post  John Goddard Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:11 am

Cough I need to get some squirt.

I never thought to ask HStores, do they do it?
Smoking
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:35 am

Yes they do!
Any idea what size it is?
Probably about 3cc so go up and ask for "model technics D2000" that is what you need.
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Post  Ivanhoe Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:39 am

nitroairplane wrote:
John Goddard wrote:
Ivanhoe wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:Wilf,

Glowfuel
  • Methanol 50%
  • Castor oil 25%
  • Nitromethane25%


Diesel
  • 1/3 ether
  • 1/3 kerosene or automotive diesel but kero is better.
  • 1/3 castor oil
  • And if possible a few drops of isopropyl nitrate or amsoil cetane booster


Hope this helps.
Indra

That's exactly what I need, Indra, many thanks, just one question...........

what are isopropyl nitrate and amsoil cetane booster????? (Never was any good at chemistry!!) (Should cetane be octane?)

Wilf

Millers Dieselclean from your local Halfrauds Wilf. Cetane is the Diesel Equivalent

You try that PAW yet?

If this was intended for me, Indra, what PAW are we talking about?
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:43 am

Sorry no that was for John still trying to order from
PAW.
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Post  John Goddard Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:52 am

nitroairplane wrote:Yes they do!
Any idea what size it is?
Probably about 3cc so go up and ask for "model technics D2000" that is what you need.

You'll like this... The man who runs a Chauffeur Co doesn't have a car for the next few days lol!

Don't ask long story which involves my usual moronic behaviour..........

Anyway I'll mosey on down that way Saturday and pick some up.
BTW
Be VVVVVV Careful over there now cos those Nice People at Camden Council have changed the parking
plates and there's no loading over there on Parkway/£80 tickets now, no prize for guessing how I know......!
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:55 am

Yeah they are ALWAYS changing stuff to charge us more money but hey I'll just cycle there.
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:55 am

Yeah they are ALWAYS changing stuff to charge us more money but hey I'll just cycle there.
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Post  Ivanhoe Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:29 am

nitroairplane wrote:Sorry no that was for John still trying to order from
PAW.

Talking of PAWs, any news on that 19?
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:47 am

Well tried to order the NVA but could not figure their site so I emailed but nothing yet!
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Post  Ivanhoe Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:51 am

nitroairplane wrote:Well tried to order the NVA but could not figure their site so I emailed but nothing yet!
Indra

Perhaps they are selling so many engines they don't want the trade! Very Happy
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Post  nitroairplane Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:53 am

Smile
I really want one of the .55 rc engines but they cost £68 Damn!
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