Acquired an Enya .10 from *bay at a good price.

That's the score of the month. That's one cool looking engine. Have you found any archival info on it? Are you going to tell us what the "good price" was?

ticomareado wrote:That's the score of the month. That's one cool looking engine. Have you found any archival info on it? Are you going to tell us what the "good price" was?

The Enya .10 was originally purchased in the mid 1970's. The early additions had the carburetor straight up/down, close to the cylinder head. Later additions had the carburetor angled forward to accept a muffler around the cylinder head. See the difference of in the photos of the Enya .049-II TV and the older Enya .10 TV, where the carburetor is slanted forward for the muffler.

Talked to "Paul" the son of the original owner who was selling dad's engine collection. I asked Paul if he had the jeweled plastic case, wrenches, and instructions which was the way it would have been originally sold.
Paul just found this engine in a box, inside a plastic bag and nothing else.
I asked Paul how his dad was able to acquire this engine and he said his dad flew for an airlines and flew from California to Japan and other Asian countries and would come back with modeling stuff.

These small Enya engines (Enya .049 / Enya .06 / Enya .08 / and Enya .10 ) were not shipped to the USA.
They were for the home market.

Here is the history of Enya engines:
http://www.svensktmodellflyg.se/users/5466/ENYA_Model_Engine_Compendium.pdf

Page #58 and page #59, from the pdf file above will give you a little history of these little engines.

So, I won the Enya .10 engine at a bid of $94.56 (with shipping and sales tax included).

I just won on another auction (British *bay) on a Enya .049-II (lightly used) for $89.53 (with shipping and sales tax included).
It's missing the prop washer, but has the box, wrench, and muffler (no instructions - catalog).
sosam117
Enya .049-II box, wrench, muffler


Enya .049 from England ( about 2009 version)



Enya .10 ( about 1970's version)

Are you going to run it?

Very nice little engines you have aquired. Thanks for posting them. Very interesting set up with the carburetors.

At the risk of poking my neck out-that photo of the Enya 049 does not show the correct muffler-the one in the photo beside the box is a G-Mark 061 muffler if I'm not mistaken....

ChrisM
'ffkiwi'

Your results using the sonic cleaner are absolutely awesome.

sosam117 wrote:

ticomareado wrote:Are you going to tell us what the "good price" was?

So, I won the Enya .10 engine at a bid of $94.56 (with shipping and sales tax included).

I just won on another auction (British *bay) on a Enya .049-II (lightly used) for $89.53 (with shipping and sales tax included).

That was a "good price" for the sellers I'd say.  I love my Enyas, but that seems an awful lot of money.  I know these are pretty rare in western countries, but that would be well above my limit.  I guess if you want 'em, get 'em if you have money to burn.

I have two Enya 06 engines of similar design, one diesel and one glow. The diesel is R/C version, still unused, while the glow ignition engine is currently in active use in control line airframes. Here is one of them which flies with MP Jet .061 diesel (installed) and Enya 06-II glow.




I should say these little engines still are surprisingly up to date in terms of performance though a bit on the heavy side.

Here is a flight with Enya 06-II (glow) more or less controlled by my grandson.

That was a good flight by the young man , the Enya makes some pretty extreme noise for a small engine Nice looking plane too !!

Sosam,

I'm with Andrew...your sonic clean results are spectacular! Just popping those pieces into the bath cleaned AND polished them?

What chemical/product did this? I need to get some for doing motorcycle carb work. Apparently I'm using the wrong stuff!

Thanks in advance.

I just did my carbs using Pine-Sol. I was actually quite impressed . It would also clean engines without harm.

Hi Ken,

I use the Pine-Sol method too! About a 1/4 bottle in 2.5 gallons of HOT water really takes the junk off. The best part is the carb/bike carb doesn't need to be stripped first. Pine-Sol doesn't kill the rubber bits (diaphragms, o-rings, gaskets). Then whatever the Pine-Sol failed to remove will be soft enough that it usually can be scooped/scraped/blown out.

Once the carb is clean, I then take it down to smallest pieces for sonic cleaning and final handwork/polishing.

But if the stuff used on the first engine above can mitigate even half of my manual processes, THAT is worth the price of his liquid gold!

Hi guys,
Sorry I have not been answering the questions here.
I have been busy doing other projects. Airplane stands, Free flight building (Fire Flies - rubber power)
Rebuilding my old McCoy engines (.049, .19 and .29) and "two" Fox 36X stunt engines.
The McCoy and Fox engines haven't been run since the late 1970's. When I flew U-control.

Building a Tatone Atomizer (from Brodak) for the Enya .10 for a duration event (tank size 14cc - total flight time 15min.)

So, 1st question from ffkiwi (muffler from a G-Mark .061 for the Enya .049 -- 1st photo?)
I did not know what muffler it was but it does work on the Enya .049 - not very well.
I was able to get the correct .049 Enya muffler from Ken Enya for $32.27 (muffler, shipping, exchange rate fees.)
Also, got some gaskets, and other engine parts as well for some other Enyas I have.

Next question from ticomareado (am I going to run it?)
Yes I have, and it a fine runner, though I wish I could use a muffler on it.
Our (my) club has a rule that engines must have a muffler installed (IF possible).
No starting engines until after 10:00am and no engines after 4:00pm (park district field).

Last question about the cleaning solution I use in my sonic cleaned.
I worked for a company (Big Yellow) and the division I worked in was the fuel injectors (Fuel Systems).
We used a solution called Master STAGES CLEAN 2020 in our sonic cleaners at work.
It is a washing compound for Ultrasonic and Immersion Washers.

When we got injectors back from the field for rebuilds (with about 1 million miles on them - many more hours than you can count).
Those injectors had heavy carbon build up in the injector tip (part that's in the combustion chamber), and heavy dirt and crud on the outside if the injector (like a spark plug).
Put 3 injectors in a tray (rubber "O" rings as well - each injector is about 10" long x 2" dia.) and put it on the conveyor to the Immersion washer (dunk tank). The injectors go through 5 different tanks. One for the heavy stuff, and the next tanks for less and less gunk after the previous washings. The injectors are agitated (up/down) in each tank. Each tank water is at 140°F the cleaning solution is between 10% and 15%.

After the final tank, the injectors come out of the immersion tanks (washer) looking like they just came off the assembly line (new and clean injectors).

We do the same for new parts (injectors) except the last tank is a ultrasonic tank.
The injector parts have to be extremely clean and pass an cleanliness test.
If it doesn't pass, the tanks are cleaned out and the parts are rewashed until they do.

By the way, I was the Quality Engineer/Specialist that over saw the concentration % of the wash tanks, the cleanliness testing, clean out of the tanks and refill, water temp (130° -150°F) of all the Ultrasonic and Immersion Washers at the plant.

So, the Master STAGES CLEAN 2020 is very good at removing built up carbon (longer ultrasonic cleaning for removal), is safe on rubber, viton, and tygon "O" rings and soft metals (like copper).
I use Master STAGES CLEAN 2020 and dilute it  10%, with distilled water (from dehumidifier).
Temperature on my ultrasonic cleaner is set to 130°F and I clean the parts for 20 minutes at a time.
Got the ultrasonic cleaner at Harbor Freight.

A friend in Australia is sending me some Enya engines. Some .06 / .08 / a prototype Enya .20?
He told me that the Enya .20 came from David Owen's estate?

I'll let you guys know when I get the engines?

Flight Stands --- stained "Cherry Wood" and "White Washed" stain


One of Three Fire Fly planes.




My rebuilt McCoy engines (.049 diesel, .19 and .29).

.049 diesel on my test stand



Fox 36X stunt engines.


My *Bay .049 engine cleaned up



My Ultrasonic tank (washer) -- from Harbor Freight

getback wrote:That was a good flight by the young man , the Enya makes some pretty extreme noise for a small engine  Nice looking plane too !!

Thanks, since then he always flies with Enya - this one and Enya 11CXD S (diesel). Tried once to cope with PAW 19 TBR but had failed and switched to Enya again.
As for the noise level, yes, Enya 06 is really pretty loud for its displacement. I don't use its as-delivered muffler because the engine itself is a bit overweighted for its class and if to add its massive standard muffler composed of two halves then it comes up with 09 engines by weight. But how it pulls! Moreover, like all other Enya's this one is a good big-prop handler spinning 7-inch propellers easily.
By the way, there is no copper or other cylinder head gasket in Enya 06-II. I know that exactly because I own the engine from new. Not sure about the 10.

Diesel Enya eninges run much quieter. I have never run my .06 diesel so here is an Enya 11CXD S running at peak with 8x4 prop, just for comparison:

Sosam,

Thanks much! That cleaner is $28/gal at MSC. I'm headed to my local branch to see if they have/can order it. There is not much difference in $$ between your magic potion and Pine-Sol/409.

This is just in time info as I am presently grinding my way through a 1986 Honda Shadow carb set!

Enya makes a special "quiet" muffler for their .15 engines, this work excellent with the Diesel .11CX as well and makes it whisper quiet in comparison to the open face.

Here's one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ENYA-09IV-SS15-15V-20S-WITH-MUFFLER-EARS-SPECIAL-MUFFLER-ASSY-NIP-/293083018899

Bob

dckrsn wrote:Here's one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ENYA-09IV-SS15-15V-20S-WITH-MUFFLER-EARS-SPECIAL-MUFFLER-ASSY-NIP-/293083018899

Bob

Bob,
I have purchased many parts from shtterman (Bob Brooks).
If you call or email him directly, he will give you a 10% discount on orders thru paypal & checks.
sosam117

944_Jim wrote:Sosam,

Thanks much! That cleaner is $28/gal at MSC. I'm headed to my local branch to see if they have/can order it. There is not much  difference in $$ between your magic potion and Pine-Sol/409.

This is just in time info as I am presently grinding my way through a 1986 Honda Shadow carb set!

I also have used it to clean my Suzuki RG250 and RG500 (two stroke bike) parts.
Carbs., pistons, power valves, ect.
On my two strokes, it's important to remove the carbon buildup on the power stroke valves.
The power stroke valve rise or fall on the exhaust side to open and close to help the engine stay in the power band.
If/when they fail, that piston gets screwed up (engine damage).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD8QnsY925Y&feature=emb_logo

What is good about using that cleaner, you won't get any flash rusting on steel parts like other cleaners.
sosam117

Hi guys,
I forgot to mention that I did have one problem with the Enya .10 that I got off *Bay.
The 3 piece piston on the Enya is suppose to rotate. Well it was stuck!
Even the sonic cleaning did not free it up? It did loosen it up a little but was still not free to turn?

I'll explain.
The Enya .10 piston, just like the .049, .06, and .08 are all engineered the same way.
The components are:
Connecting rod
Wire "C" clip
Wrist pin and ring -- wrist pin is pressed into the ring (it's permanent - don't try to remove or damage can result - I know!)

Anyway, It is a real pain to remove the wire "C" clip.
I use/used a dentist's dental pick to pry it out.
After an hour or so ( and cussing) I got it out.
The "C" clip looked now more like a "D". No problem, I have special pliers to (from Micro Mark) that ben the wire back to a "C" shape.
After the "C" clip was out I still could not get it apart?
I used the heat gun and heated it up until I was able to pull the piston from the connecting rod.
The part that has the wrist pin press in was rusted.
The area inside the piston where the part rotates was rusted.
With my Dremel tool and a buffing wheel I buffed the inside of the piston to remove the rust.
I did the same with the "donut" part that was connected to the connecting rod where it now looks like chromed part (no rust).
Assembled it back together and checked if it turned freely ( and it does now!)
Then the I installed the fixed/repaired "C" clip back in to where it snapped into the groove inside the piston.

You guys need to check to make sure your piston rotates freely. It is the same idea as Cox engines pistons where they are to be free to rotate.

fps60 wrote:

getback wrote:That was a good flight by the young man , the Enya makes some pretty extreme noise for a small engine  Nice looking plane too !!

Thanks, since then he always flies with Enya - this one and Enya 11CXD S (diesel). Tried once to cope with PAW 19 TBR but had failed and switched to Enya again.
As for the noise level, yes, Enya 06 is really pretty loud for its displacement. I don't use its as-delivered muffler because the engine itself is a bit overweighted for its class and if to add its massive standard muffler composed of two halves then it comes up with 09 engines by weight. But how it pulls! Moreover, like all other Enya's this one is a good big-prop handler spinning 7-inch propellers easily.
By the way, there is no copper or other cylinder head gasket in Enya 06-II. I know that exactly because I own the engine from new. Not sure about the 10.

Diesel Enya eninges run much quieter. I have never run my .06 diesel so here is an Enya 11CXD S running at peak with 8x4 prop, just for comparison:

I have purchased and flew many different type (manufactures) of diesel engines. PAW, MVVS, McCoy, Rustlers, Irvine, and others.
One guy in my club got me going on diesels back in 1986. It was a PAW 09, which cleaned it up this year (and it looks like it's new!)

I have tried to acquire the Enya diesels. I do have the .049-II, .06-II, .09, Ultra .11CXD, SS.15D, SS.25DBB, 41-4CD (4-stroke) but I missed out on getting the 36-4CD 4-stroke diesel.

Of those I have run the .06-II, .09, Ultra .11CXD, SS.15D and the 41-4CD (4-stroke)
I don't run/fly with the diesels as much as I use to. Acquiring the diesel fuel is getting harder is one main reason.
Another reason is, for the same amount of fuel (14cc), I get a longer run with the .06-II Enya glow over .06-II Enya diesel.
Almost a minute more.

As for fps60 saying:
"By the way, there is no copper or other cylinder head gasket in Enya 06-II. I know that exactly because I own the engine from new. Not sure about the 10."
When I ordered replacement gaskets from Ken Enya for my .049, .06, .08, and .10, he sent me the gaskets required for between the back plate and crank case, between the crank case and carburetor, and this other gasket (aluminum - .030" thick).
I asked Ken where does this aluminum gasket go? He told me it goes between the cylinder and the top that holds the glow plug.
I have had brand new (in the box) engines I bought from Carlson Engine Imports of the .049, .06, .08 and all of them did not have this gasket on them?
Ken told me that they should have had them? He said they were probably left out by accident. The were to be there to make sure that the top would not unscrew when the engine warmed up.
I guess it's like the copper gasket on the Cox engines under the glow head?
I have included a photo of the aluminum gasket and stock number (in the photo).
I guess if you haven't had a problem with it not there I would not worry about it?
If you look closely on the .049 that I rebuilt, I made my own "copper gasket" instead of the aluminum one.

Enya .06-II head Gasket




Thickness of aluminum head gasket is .030 inches


My Enya .06-II diesel on my test stand


My Enya .06-II Glow on the test stand


My Enya 41-4CD 4-stroke diesel -- Glow plug is a dummy


My 1st diesel -- PAW .09 (before / after  cleaning/rebuild)

After ultasonic cleaning and new muffler gaskets.


Look closely and see the copper gasket above the cylinder and below the head (glow plug)
Now go back and closely look at the .06-II Enya glow engine on the stand, it doesn't have the gasket?

Sosam,

Surely the magic cleaning solution doesn't get the aluminum/ brass new-looking clean...right?

What do you do to make them look new after cleaning?

I do my CB1100F/S-90/Outdoor power equipment as needed. As much as I get rid of grime, the pieces still look "old."

Your stuff looks new!

TIA

Sosam117,

Thank you for the information. Perhaps, I'm happy owner of exclusive example of Enya 06-II without head gasket probably missed during assembly, however, starting and running immaculately as can be seen in the video above. When I have a time (and wish) to dig through my stables I'll check its diesel counterpart. Sorry, can not do that immediately because the engine had been placed for long-time storage in the place which I could not call readily accessible.

The only Enya diesels I have are 06-II and two Ultra 11 CXDS engines. But I have extensive experience with PAW's. My PAW fleet ranging within .049 to 0.35 consists of more than 20 engines. But that's the subject for a separate discussion, I believe.

As for diesel fuel, I mix my own brew relying on instructions, my own experience, and very useful hints provided by Tony Eifflaender upon requests.