Re: cox golden bee circa 1970-1972

microflitedude Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:12 pm

mitchg95 wrote:
microflitedude wrote:You guys are funny.

Is the piston not completing the stroke - moving up-and-down between Top Dead Center. This is the result of too much compression. How many head gaskets you got in there? Try adding couple. That Norvel head could be too much.

i dont have my tools with me right now, but i believe there is 2 head gaskets

Are they new? Add one or two next time you run it.

microflitedude Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:14 pm

WingingIt74 wrote:
microflitedude wrote:You guys are funny.

Is the piston not completing the stroke - moving up-and-down between Top Dead Center. This is the result of too much compression. How many head gaskets you got in there? Try adding couple. That Norvel head could be too much.

My 051 was doing that a few times yesterday, just pop'n back and forth, I thought it was pretty funny.

Yeah, but for me it quickly gets annoying Very Happy

It is not always caused by compression. Too rich can cause it too.

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:14 pm

microflitedude wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:
microflitedude wrote:You guys are funny.

Is the piston not completing the stroke - moving up-and-down between Top Dead Center. This is the result of too much compression. How many head gaskets you got in there? Try adding couple. That Norvel head could be too much.

i dont have my tools with me right now, but i believe there is 2 head gaskets

Are they new? Add one or two next time you run it.

i think they are new, i dont know though, ill add a couple more when i go to start it later

nitroairplane Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:15 pm

Yes that is because when you run it rich there is more fuel taking up space in the combustion chamber hence making it smaller increasing the compression.

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:17 pm

microflitedude wrote:
WingingIt74 wrote:
microflitedude wrote:You guys are funny.

Is the piston not completing the stroke - moving up-and-down between Top Dead Center. This is the result of too much compression. How many head gaskets you got in there? Try adding couple. That Norvel head could be too much.

My 051 was doing that a few times yesterday, just pop'n back and forth, I thought it was pretty funny.

Yeah, but for me it quickly gets annoying It is not always caused by compression. Too rich can cause it too.

ya, i was fussing with it for an hour yesterday, and finally just chucked thew airplane into the wind, it nose dived int into the groung Sad

, the thing is tough as nails though, that plane weighs over 1 pound and all it broke was a servo, the rest of the airplane has no damage, much to my suprise lol!

microflitedude Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:17 pm

nitroairplane wrote:Yes that is because when you run it rich there is more fuel taking up space in the combustion chamber hence making it smaller increasing the compression.

And why you should be very careful whilst using an electric starter. Your conrod will take a beating.

microflitedude Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:18 pm

mitchg95 wrote:
microflitedude wrote:
WingingIt74 wrote:
microflitedude wrote:You guys are funny.

Is the piston not completing the stroke - moving up-and-down between Top Dead Center. This is the result of too much compression. How many head gaskets you got in there? Try adding couple. That Norvel head could be too much.

My 051 was doing that a few times yesterday, just pop'n back and forth, I thought it was pretty funny.

Yeah, but for me it quickly gets annoying It is not always caused by compression. Too rich can cause it too.

ya, i was fussing with it for an hour yesterday, and finally just chucked thew airplane into the wind, it nose dived int into the groung , the thing is tough as nails though, that plane weighs over 1 pound and all it broke was a servo, the rest of the airplane has no damage, much to my suprise

Without the motor running?

nitroairplane Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:18 pm

microflitedude wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:Yes that is because when you run it rich there is more fuel taking up space in the combustion chamber hence making it smaller increasing the compression.

And why you should be very careful whilst using an electric starter. Your conrod will take a beating.

My verdict,
Never use an electric starter.

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:19 pm

microflitedude wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:Yes that is because when you run it rich there is more fuel taking up space in the combustion chamber hence making it smaller increasing the compression.

And why you should be very careful whilst using an electric starter. Your conrod will take a beating.

ya i used a electric starter on my first baby bee engine... it ground a way 1/16" of the crankcase. ill never use an electric starter on these 1/2a engines ever again, i have learned my lesson

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:20 pm

microflitedude wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:
microflitedude wrote:
WingingIt74 wrote:
microflitedude wrote:You guys are funny.

Is the piston not completing the stroke - moving up-and-down between Top Dead Center. This is the result of too much compression. How many head gaskets you got in there? Try adding couple. That Norvel head could be too much.

My 051 was doing that a few times yesterday, just pop'n back and forth, I thought it was pretty funny.

Yeah, but for me it quickly gets annoying It is not always caused by compression. Too rich can cause it too.

ya, i was fussing with it for an hour yesterday, and finally just chucked thew airplane into the wind, it nose dived int into the groung , the thing is tough as nails though, that plane weighs over 1 pound and all it broke was a servo, the rest of the airplane has no damage, much to my suprise

Without the motor running?

nope the motor wouldnt start so thats why i through the plane into the wind

nitroairplane Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:22 pm

lol frustration reigns Smile

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:25 pm

nitroairplane wrote:lol frustration reigns

yep, there are good days where everything works in this hobby, then there are those horrible days where nothing works, and theres no wind when you get to the airfeild then when you have everything running right and adjusted its like a hurricane Mad

microflitedude Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:26 pm

Well, been there, done that... Smile

nitroairplane Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:26 pm

Yup that has happened a lot to me and most guys here i bet.

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:28 pm

yep thats how it was for me yesterday, it sucked

nitroairplane Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:36 pm

mitchg95 wrote:yep thats how it was for me yesterday, it sucked

I almost had that today but called it a day before it got toooo windy and dark lol.

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:43 pm

ya, its allways good to pack up, when you think your about to do something stupid, for example before i tossed my plane i considered packing up before i broke some thing, but i didnt pack up and i destroyed a micro servo

nitroairplane Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:44 pm

mitchg95 wrote:ya, its allways good to pack up, when you think your about to do something stupid, for example before i tossed my plane i considered packing up before i broke some thing, but i didnt pack up and i destroyed a micro servo

Yup I know that one for sure.
Quit while you are ahead.

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:46 pm

exactly

nitroairplane Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:48 pm

mitchg95 wrote:exactly

Yeah like before you try to do a low and fast pass just a bit too low and a bit too fast Smile

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:54 pm

ya that is exactly what im talking about. im currently building a ff trenton terror with a 63" wingspan and im going to convert it to rc, install a 2 oz gas tank and a cox .049 rc engine with out the integrated gas tank:D

nitroairplane Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:57 pm

mitchg95 wrote:ya that is exactly what im talking about. im currently building a ff trenton terror with a 63" wingspan and im going to convert it to rc, install a 2 oz gas tank and a cox .049 rc engine with out the integrated gas tank:D

That is most likely too large and heavy for a .049 but you never know for sure.

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:01 pm

nitroairplane wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:ya that is exactly what im talking about. im currently building a ff trenton terror with a 63" wingspan and im going to convert it to rc, install a 2 oz gas tank and a cox .049 rc engine with out the integrated gas tank:D

That is most likely too large and heavy for a .049 but you never know for sure.

i dont know, but the wing and the fuselage that i built for it before got thrown across the garage and destroyed. the wing and the old fuselage combined weighed less than the airplane that weighed in at over a pound, and of course im probly only gonna have 2 channels (rudder, throttle) and im planning to use light weight servos

nitroairplane Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:02 pm

Okay then we shall see we shall see!

mitchg95 Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:06 pm

yes sir

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