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Post  roddie Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:05 pm

This is a kit-box from a Dumas/Veco "Warrior" balsa wood control-line model airplane. My uncle gave me the box and unfinished model back in the early 1990's along with several other unfinished models and their kit-boxes; all of which had leftover scrap or unused balsa and plywood, silk-span, instruction-sheets etc. in them. This particular box had been buried.. because it didn't really have any useful balsa panels in it. Mostly scrap-wood. Today I did some reorganizing/consolidating.. because I needed a box principally for my hardwood dowel assortment.. of which many are 36" long. The dowels "had been" stored in another box with an assortment of cardboard tubes.. and I wanted to separate them. I hadn't noticed the "Exchange Service" label on this Warrior box until today.

My uncle flew control-line throughout the 1960's/70's.. and joined the USAF around 1972.. and remained an avid C/L flyer during his enlistment. I'm guessing that he brought the un-built Warrior kit home with him when he was discharged.

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Note the "Burnham Van Service" sticker. They would've delivered it to the BX where my uncle was stationed; most likely Holloman AFB in New Mexico. They're actually still in business.

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Here's the Warrior that he "started" at some point after he came home.. but never finished. I've managed to keep it somewhat safely hangared all this time.

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This one was built by my dad in the mid 1960's.. It's also hangered downstairs in the basement.

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Post  TD ABUSER Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:53 pm

This plane deserves to be released from it's Earthly bounds...!
I enlisted a wee bit after the military actively encouraged our model plane hobby instead of drinking and smoking hash.
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Post  rsv1cox Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:26 am

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That is beautiful!!!!!! Something about an uncovered airplanes structure appeals to me. Organization, alignment, mathematics all there.

Vincents play a promenant role in my family tree on my fathers side, mostly originating from the central Massachuetts area. You might be a brother from another mother from long-long ago. Smile
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Post  roddie Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:47 pm

rsv1cox wrote:
Vincents play a promenant role in my family tree on my fathers side, mostly originating from the central Massachuetts area.  You might be a brother from another mother from long-long ago.  Smile

Vincent Ballou Franklin Sr. and Jr...... my mom's dad, and little brother. My mom's family is native to S.E. Massachusetts. I grew up in Franklin, MA as my mom did. My dad was from midwest USA..  Iowa.

My mom's dad; Vincent B. Franklin Sr.

1st grade.. Plainville, MA. He was born in 1912.. and would boast: "The year the Titanic sank..."

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a few years later..

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with wife Marion (Bartlett) Franklin, (holding baby Vincent Jr.) my mom (Nancy) and her older sister.. (Roberta) circa 1948?

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Post  rsv1cox Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:52 pm

Ah, given name not sur.

My Aunts name was Vera Vincent Vining as a nod to that side of the family.
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Post  Ken Cook Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:39 pm

The Warrior and others in that series have no plywood doublers from the fuse to the engine crutch. It's balsa to beams which can literally shake apart especially a old model like the one you picture. Aliphatic glues were typical of construction for the motor mount to balsa and Ambroid or the likes of for the fuse. I've built two Warriors and the performance isn't exactly stellar. Built from the box , the plane builds heavy and the construction has more wood than needed. The spars for instance are not needed and don't do anything aside from leaving a ugly bump in your covering. Dumas kits had some fairly heavy wood within them. Not always a bad thing but the Warrior has a short wingspan and a thin wing so it needs to fly fairly fast to perform. I built one with flaps and one without. I say this to others quite a bit, small planes don't require flaps and it does nothing other than lose wing area when activated. This plane is no exception and mine with flaps essentially dropped two feet when controls were moved quickly. The plane stalls and loses speed which isn't a good recipe for a stunter.

The Chief from this series was a pretty good plane, much larger. There were quite a bit of these, the Papoose, Squaw, Tomahawk, Brave, etc. The key to these is keeping the weight down. Not a easy task using box stock wood . Using a smaller modern engines with more power than the older larger vintage engines is practical.
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Post  getback Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:06 am

Cool History roddie , I don't have anything from my fathers fling hay days when he was young , we did fly together when he got me started as i was a teen ? He use to tell me about fling in the cow fields and haven to move the poop before hand (the glory days ) LOL But he could not remember what engines he used , glow , ignition .... I do miss him Alot ! Sad
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