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Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
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Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
All setup and preflighted with a new powerplant, the recently discussed OS MAX-S .35.
With great pleasure and excited anticipation , I present to you, my beloved old friend, the gorgeous...........
Her sparkling clean and freshly oiled OS MAX
And one more look because I just can't help myself
I wish I could put a muffler on it, but I don't have a strap-on job. I used to, but don't seem to have it anymore. When I get more time, I'll bore some holes to screw one on. The RC carb is wired open, so I hope it gets the right amount of air flow to run the 4-2 break I have heard is so sweet on this engine. I put an OS8 plug in it. I have some longer plugs, and one with an idle bar in case I think I need to swap it out. They(yeah, them) call the OS8 a long plug, but I wonder why, because it isn't, as far as I can tell
I wanted to start with a 10x5 prop, but the crankshaft end isn't long enough to get a spinner on with either the APCs or my wood props, so I put a slimmer hub Top Flite PP 10x4 on it. I also have an MA 9x5" prop that Ken gave me for my Fox, but same problem. I don't have to have a spinner, but it's better if I need to use the electric starter. If I forego the spinner I have a wide selection of props I can try. I think this engine likes the old wide blade props and some of my Zingers fill that bill. I also have some assorted 9x6 props too. I doubt if this engine would like an 11" prop.
Sunday we're going out to fly, and Bob told me to bring some 1/2A fuel, so I can't wait to see what he brings. I bet there will be some Muciano planes, that's his favorite. I flew three of mine last time we went and I think I stirred his 1/2A bug.
Since this is the flying discussion forum, lemme tell you about my 1/2A flying from last Sunday. It was wild! I took both Baby Streaks and the Li'l Satan, along with my big ones. First I flew BFS II which has a Norvel .061. It flew poorly on 1/2A day, surging with a very uncooperative needle, and cutting off early. It had a bad plug, so I hoped a new one would fix it. That was the problem with the original Norvel on this plane, and both started doing it after a crash. I polished the crank, believing it had some aluminum fused into it, so I'll swap it back onto the Streak, but it won't be ready for this week. I still got a fun flight out of it, and for once a bunch of other people, mostly spectators, were out there too. As y'all you know, I love an audience., It was on and off, but on long enough to get wild. It finally shut off with 1/4 ounce left in the bladder
Then I flew BFS I, my traditional colored red, white and blue one. That old .051 still runs good, but it's getting low on compression. Not as fast as the Big Mig, but still quite a snappy flyer. When she ran out of gas, I was gliding in for a landing, not realizing I had danced during the flight too close to the dropoff at the edge of the runway. First it hit a weed tree and swung around and hit the railroad tie wall that delineates the runway edge from the 4' drop to the sand pit. Broke the fuse at an old repair behind the wing. It's fixed and will fly Sunday.
Then I flew the Li'l Satan. I usually use Sig Champion 35, but this time I put an ounce+ of Glowplugboy 35 in the bladder. It took off and immediately started hunting like a drunken coondog on meth. I have never seen a Tee Dee run as fast as this one, it must really like that GPB fuel. Seriously, it's the fastest flight I ever flown besides the Gladiator combat wing with its AME. But I think the lines were sticking to each other because it was on the edge of death the whole time. I managed to hang in there for a few minutes, but then I let it do what you should never allow, that is I let it get way ahead of me, to where it was actually behind my back and out of site. I spun around to catch up, but stumbled, almost fell, and dropped the handle. With nothing but the lanyard holding it to my wrist, it was doing continuous loops. I used both hands and got the handle back, but now had it backwards. In trying to reverse it, I skimmed the grass and disconnected the bladder and broke the blade. Happily, nothing else was damaged, so it'll get another flight this weekend. I'll fly it with steel this time, and unless it still hunts, I'll trash the fishing line set. The Streaks didn't have any problem with the same lines, and all I can guess is because they are heavier and pull harder, so the lines didn't get stuck together. Or maybe something else is wrong.
I'll fly 1/2A first before the wind picks up, and I will get the camera going. I always get pics and vids of other people and planes, but no one ever gets me in action. I'll use the Samsung on a tripod instead of my phone. So look for my Sunday report, I'm looking forward to it.
Here's Wayne and his eP-40. The prop makes a mean chop that reminds me of the 3D helicopters. You can hear it some in the video,especially in his climbs, particularly the square 8. That 12x6 ripping chunks of air.
https://youtu.be/LIB9dqa6bbc
And here is the flightline and Bob's Stunt Rocket flight in case you missed it in my last report.
https://youtu.be/E_fDI8bJ-rE
Rusty
With great pleasure and excited anticipation , I present to you, my beloved old friend, the gorgeous...........
Miss Shoestring!
Her sparkling clean and freshly oiled OS MAX
And one more look because I just can't help myself
I wish I could put a muffler on it, but I don't have a strap-on job. I used to, but don't seem to have it anymore. When I get more time, I'll bore some holes to screw one on. The RC carb is wired open, so I hope it gets the right amount of air flow to run the 4-2 break I have heard is so sweet on this engine. I put an OS8 plug in it. I have some longer plugs, and one with an idle bar in case I think I need to swap it out. They(yeah, them) call the OS8 a long plug, but I wonder why, because it isn't, as far as I can tell
I wanted to start with a 10x5 prop, but the crankshaft end isn't long enough to get a spinner on with either the APCs or my wood props, so I put a slimmer hub Top Flite PP 10x4 on it. I also have an MA 9x5" prop that Ken gave me for my Fox, but same problem. I don't have to have a spinner, but it's better if I need to use the electric starter. If I forego the spinner I have a wide selection of props I can try. I think this engine likes the old wide blade props and some of my Zingers fill that bill. I also have some assorted 9x6 props too. I doubt if this engine would like an 11" prop.
Sunday we're going out to fly, and Bob told me to bring some 1/2A fuel, so I can't wait to see what he brings. I bet there will be some Muciano planes, that's his favorite. I flew three of mine last time we went and I think I stirred his 1/2A bug.
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Since this is the flying discussion forum, lemme tell you about my 1/2A flying from last Sunday. It was wild! I took both Baby Streaks and the Li'l Satan, along with my big ones. First I flew BFS II which has a Norvel .061. It flew poorly on 1/2A day, surging with a very uncooperative needle, and cutting off early. It had a bad plug, so I hoped a new one would fix it. That was the problem with the original Norvel on this plane, and both started doing it after a crash. I polished the crank, believing it had some aluminum fused into it, so I'll swap it back onto the Streak, but it won't be ready for this week. I still got a fun flight out of it, and for once a bunch of other people, mostly spectators, were out there too. As y'all you know, I love an audience., It was on and off, but on long enough to get wild. It finally shut off with 1/4 ounce left in the bladder
Then I flew BFS I, my traditional colored red, white and blue one. That old .051 still runs good, but it's getting low on compression. Not as fast as the Big Mig, but still quite a snappy flyer. When she ran out of gas, I was gliding in for a landing, not realizing I had danced during the flight too close to the dropoff at the edge of the runway. First it hit a weed tree and swung around and hit the railroad tie wall that delineates the runway edge from the 4' drop to the sand pit. Broke the fuse at an old repair behind the wing. It's fixed and will fly Sunday.
Then I flew the Li'l Satan. I usually use Sig Champion 35, but this time I put an ounce+ of Glowplugboy 35 in the bladder. It took off and immediately started hunting like a drunken coondog on meth. I have never seen a Tee Dee run as fast as this one, it must really like that GPB fuel. Seriously, it's the fastest flight I ever flown besides the Gladiator combat wing with its AME. But I think the lines were sticking to each other because it was on the edge of death the whole time. I managed to hang in there for a few minutes, but then I let it do what you should never allow, that is I let it get way ahead of me, to where it was actually behind my back and out of site. I spun around to catch up, but stumbled, almost fell, and dropped the handle. With nothing but the lanyard holding it to my wrist, it was doing continuous loops. I used both hands and got the handle back, but now had it backwards. In trying to reverse it, I skimmed the grass and disconnected the bladder and broke the blade. Happily, nothing else was damaged, so it'll get another flight this weekend. I'll fly it with steel this time, and unless it still hunts, I'll trash the fishing line set. The Streaks didn't have any problem with the same lines, and all I can guess is because they are heavier and pull harder, so the lines didn't get stuck together. Or maybe something else is wrong.
I'll fly 1/2A first before the wind picks up, and I will get the camera going. I always get pics and vids of other people and planes, but no one ever gets me in action. I'll use the Samsung on a tripod instead of my phone. So look for my Sunday report, I'm looking forward to it.
Here's Wayne and his eP-40. The prop makes a mean chop that reminds me of the 3D helicopters. You can hear it some in the video,especially in his climbs, particularly the square 8. That 12x6 ripping chunks of air.
https://youtu.be/LIB9dqa6bbc
And here is the flightline and Bob's Stunt Rocket flight in case you missed it in my last report.
https://youtu.be/E_fDI8bJ-rE
Rusty
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
Rusty- Miss Shoestring sure does look pretty. If you have a field that allows you to fly with out a muffler, let her rip.....that's half the fun of flying, the noise! Good luck and have lots of fun Sunday.
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
Great report and Great Airplanes Rusty !! I'm with Marleysky...let 'em howl like Coyotes !!!
November is giving use an intro to 'Winter-in-Missouri' on it way out, with cold rain and wind all day. SO, the Skunk Work's furnace will get fired up for a day ticked in with the toys...along with a couple later day Honey-Do's on the side for Miss Beth.
Also, got a call from M.O.C. Bob (My Other Cousin Bob), who wants to squeeze in another Family Model Airplane Day this coming Friday, so that'll be my flying day. Gonna re-re-check Mud Dabber, the Scientific 'Golden Hawk', and Wayne's Goldberg 'Buster' to make sure they're ready for their debut!
Good Luck and Good Flying for Sunday !!!
Cold Rainy Day Kim
November is giving use an intro to 'Winter-in-Missouri' on it way out, with cold rain and wind all day. SO, the Skunk Work's furnace will get fired up for a day ticked in with the toys...along with a couple later day Honey-Do's on the side for Miss Beth.
Also, got a call from M.O.C. Bob (My Other Cousin Bob), who wants to squeeze in another Family Model Airplane Day this coming Friday, so that'll be my flying day. Gonna re-re-check Mud Dabber, the Scientific 'Golden Hawk', and Wayne's Goldberg 'Buster' to make sure they're ready for their debut!
Good Luck and Good Flying for Sunday !!!
Cold Rainy Day Kim
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
I have a habit of scoping out (there is a pun here) all the items in the back ground of photos inside peoples shops as they present a plane or whatever they are showing.
In this case I noticed the oscilloscope in the background next to the waggon
I am curious if Rusty still uses that dinosaur . I used to use that same scope in my Job as an Army aircraft armament repairman for bench testing some components of the TOW missile system on Cobra (AH-1F) attack heli
These days I use a modern solid state scope for some of my Ham radio tinkering
In this case I noticed the oscilloscope in the background next to the waggon
I am curious if Rusty still uses that dinosaur . I used to use that same scope in my Job as an Army aircraft armament repairman for bench testing some components of the TOW missile system on Cobra (AH-1F) attack heli
These days I use a modern solid state scope for some of my Ham radio tinkering
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
That is one Nice Looking Miss Shoestring for sure , enjoyed the report , That is funny with the GBF/TD acting like that glad it was only minor damage . Wayne looks like he is having a good time putting some body language into it too!! Hope the Sunday fly goes well. Have Fun!! getback
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
Hey dudes, thanks for taking interest. The old Shoestring holds a fond place in my heart, as it was the plane I learned the Beginner pattern with and flew in my first contest. It's freakin amazing it still looks as good, a testament to Goldberg kit durability.
I'd never flown a bigger than 1/2A plane when I joined the Jackson Flyers in 2012. One of the former control liners in the club wanted me to fly his old Shoestring, so we made an appointment and met up one Saturday. It was a big ol'(to me) ugly yellow thing with an equally big OS 40fp on it. He wanted to fly it first. He showed me his handle, which I now know as a Hotrock. Steel lines, how odd. He said it's supposed to have a safety thong but he forgot it, so don't tell anybody Lol. So he gassed it up and I held it. Being accustomed to comparatively tiny planes, I was surprised when it hiccupped and almost jerked itself out of my grip. I made a mental note to myself... wrap fingers ALL the way around the LE on these things!
He gave the signal and off it went. He started flying some OTS maneuvers, or so he later said, when suddenly the plane was in freeflight, Hotrock trailing 60' behind it and headed for the sand pit. It dove in and splattered yellow bits all over the place. While we walked around picking up pieces he was grumbling about a grass-snag having jerked a line and taken the handle away from him. He asked me if I'd ever seen that happen. Uh, no. If you mentioned that flight to him today, 2015, he would still say, "Grass Snag."
He was so disgusted, he told me to just keep it, less the engine and tank. So I did, even though I didn't want the old yellow pile of crap. It hung around in my shop til about January 2013 when I decided to take a look. I ripped all the covering off, it looked like JC Penny Oxford work shirt material, very heavy, thus the .40 engine. I used long bamboo skewers and reconnected the fuse, rebuilt the broken wing, and stripped the paint. By April it was ready for a maiden flight. There are lots of threads on this adventure.
This May, I was flying a practice flight with the Oriental at Joe Nall before the contest, and he came walking across the field after I landed. I hadn't seen him in ages. He asked if he hadn't given me the SS that day, would I have ever gotten into this stunt business. I said, no, that's what got me started. He smiled with pride and then grumbled, "Damn grass snag."
Rusty
I'd never flown a bigger than 1/2A plane when I joined the Jackson Flyers in 2012. One of the former control liners in the club wanted me to fly his old Shoestring, so we made an appointment and met up one Saturday. It was a big ol'(to me) ugly yellow thing with an equally big OS 40fp on it. He wanted to fly it first. He showed me his handle, which I now know as a Hotrock. Steel lines, how odd. He said it's supposed to have a safety thong but he forgot it, so don't tell anybody Lol. So he gassed it up and I held it. Being accustomed to comparatively tiny planes, I was surprised when it hiccupped and almost jerked itself out of my grip. I made a mental note to myself... wrap fingers ALL the way around the LE on these things!
He gave the signal and off it went. He started flying some OTS maneuvers, or so he later said, when suddenly the plane was in freeflight, Hotrock trailing 60' behind it and headed for the sand pit. It dove in and splattered yellow bits all over the place. While we walked around picking up pieces he was grumbling about a grass-snag having jerked a line and taken the handle away from him. He asked me if I'd ever seen that happen. Uh, no. If you mentioned that flight to him today, 2015, he would still say, "Grass Snag."
He was so disgusted, he told me to just keep it, less the engine and tank. So I did, even though I didn't want the old yellow pile of crap. It hung around in my shop til about January 2013 when I decided to take a look. I ripped all the covering off, it looked like JC Penny Oxford work shirt material, very heavy, thus the .40 engine. I used long bamboo skewers and reconnected the fuse, rebuilt the broken wing, and stripped the paint. By April it was ready for a maiden flight. There are lots of threads on this adventure.
This May, I was flying a practice flight with the Oriental at Joe Nall before the contest, and he came walking across the field after I landed. I hadn't seen him in ages. He asked if he hadn't given me the SS that day, would I have ever gotten into this stunt business. I said, no, that's what got me started. He smiled with pride and then grumbled, "Damn grass snag."
Rusty
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
Fred, I do still use the old Eico scope once in a rare while. It's out in the shop because I recently used it to see what a questionable 12v charger was outputting. But the vertical gain pot is so glitchy I can't measure anything. I built that scope while I was in college and earned walking-around money fixing people's TVs and stereos. I think more TV/stereo shops have owned one of those than any other scope ever sold.
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
My how times have changed
Took me months to build the Heathkit version and I am sure the Army Navy commercial version o'scope had the same chassis and wiring and they all seemed to have the same layout of knobs n buttons on the face
The few Heathkit things I built with my dad was where I learned to wrap wire bundles neatly using waxed cord...wish I had some pictures as I was quite proud of the detail; a task my old fingers count not even attempt these days
BTW the Shoestring is cool too
Took me months to build the Heathkit version and I am sure the Army Navy commercial version o'scope had the same chassis and wiring and they all seemed to have the same layout of knobs n buttons on the face
The few Heathkit things I built with my dad was where I learned to wrap wire bundles neatly using waxed cord...wish I had some pictures as I was quite proud of the detail; a task my old fingers count not even attempt these days
BTW the Shoestring is cool too
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
If you think you sometimes might need a scope
http://www.jyetech.com/Products/LcdScope/e138.php
for $35 and about 4 hours of assembly, about the size of a deck of cards. It is kinda fun. I haven't done much with mine, but it is neat.
Phil
http://www.jyetech.com/Products/LcdScope/e138.php
for $35 and about 4 hours of assembly, about the size of a deck of cards. It is kinda fun. I haven't done much with mine, but it is neat.
Phil
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
Rusty, I got out for one flight yesterday. This was pretty cool in fact it was a good feeling. I have been on a crazy work schedule which has consumed all of my weekends. I have had only enough time to put up 3 flights since Huntersville. I pulled out a oldie but goodie that was hanging in the basement. This was my Matador combat plane with a honkin Fox MK engine. A few of us took turns flying it as it's a one flip reliable starter. It really was impressive and it just felt good to fly it. Not a pretty one, but in this hobby you would be greatly surprised how ugly just plain works. The club I belong to combined with the R/C club have recently introduced a 1/2A day. This is something I sent them from your Carolina club. It seemed to go over with flying colors and this is something that should be happening in the spring. I'm pulling it all out for this event. I have old and new which I've been freshening up a lot of the old Cox engine for. Ken
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
she came out great rusty! i like the orange and black color scheme. is that a flywheel of some sort behind the nose cone?
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
I'm glad you got to squeeze in a little flying time, and that we inspired the Philly Fliers to add a 1/2A day to your events, that's my favorite meeting of the year. It's the only time i can out-fly everybody in the club Lol. Probably only because Bob couldn't make it this year. He's going to bring some 1/2As to the fort this morning, I can't wait to see what he shows up with.
I was preflighting my Li'l Satan last night and the threaded rod between the CF pushrod and the elevator horn was bent. When I tried to straighten it, I broke it. So the Gladiator gets to substitute. I'm mostly excited to try out my new Shoestring configuration though. And I got the Cardinal fixed up and bonded with it yesterday. Feels more like a part of my fleet now. I'm going to try and get myself in some of the pics and vids today.
Rusty
I was preflighting my Li'l Satan last night and the threaded rod between the CF pushrod and the elevator horn was bent. When I tried to straighten it, I broke it. So the Gladiator gets to substitute. I'm mostly excited to try out my new Shoestring configuration though. And I got the Cardinal fixed up and bonded with it yesterday. Feels more like a part of my fleet now. I'm going to try and get myself in some of the pics and vids today.
Rusty
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
Go Get'm Rusty !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
Roger, that's the aluminum backplate to a Great Planes spinner. They are my favorite cheap spinner at about $6 bucks. Those backplates sometimes need balancing though. It's actually red, but the camera has other ideas.
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
Roger that!Kim wrote:Go Get'm Rusty !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Look who's going(Went) flying this Sunday!
We got the good out of the day. Just the three of us. A calm beautiful day and not one single RC guy showed up. It's disappointing that this club is so inactive, just us three control line guys. But we damn sure had a great time. And I'm whooped, feel like I been tied to a rope and drug behind a Harley Davidson down a dirt road!
As in the topic of this thread, the Shoestring's new engine is awesome. I like it. I got one run too rich and one run too lean. On the too-lean run I flew a superfast pattern, skipping the tween loops a lot because I didn't want to run out of gas too soon. I almost did. And superhigh bottoms. I didn't want to risk slamming it at that speed. But I got both on video as well as Bob's twin Jezebel and the first full pattern I've flown on my Cardinal. That one is right in my wheelhouse with its LA46. I'll post a proper flight report with videos later.
Rusty
As in the topic of this thread, the Shoestring's new engine is awesome. I like it. I got one run too rich and one run too lean. On the too-lean run I flew a superfast pattern, skipping the tween loops a lot because I didn't want to run out of gas too soon. I almost did. And superhigh bottoms. I didn't want to risk slamming it at that speed. But I got both on video as well as Bob's twin Jezebel and the first full pattern I've flown on my Cardinal. That one is right in my wheelhouse with its LA46. I'll post a proper flight report with videos later.
Rusty
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