Vintage Stunt Champs

Good thing they don't take credit cards or I would have been in trouble.




Model in the foreground is by Leroy Black, member of Central Arizona Control Line Club. Flew great and looked awesome in the air.


"Spidey" Nobler, models flight is below:

That looked like very relaxed flying!

That's a great video to study the pattern.

ian1954 wrote:That looked like very relaxed flying!

I tried to pay as much attention to pilot posture/position as I did to the model. The guys who put more "English" on it seemed to do better.

Jim

NICE!!! Thanks for sharing Jim!

I'm glad you made it out there, Jim. I posted this morning asking if you were going, but must not have clicked the send button. I'm glad you made it. Now start practicing that body english so we can see you flying out there next year.
Rusty

They have a ringmaster only event I was actually thinking about for next year. That or there was a profile oriental down there with the best finish I have ever seen in person. Metallic burgundy and silver auto paint buffed to a super shine with clear dope over silkspan on the wing. Absolutely gorgeous, kicking myself for not getting a photo.

Jim

yep, I've noticed that too, but I think its also more wider stance and slightly bent knees, making for better stability of pilot and better control when plane makes sudden changes in direction...and I hate to say wrist movement, which from day one most of us have heard that to learn you want to use your arm not your wrist, which is true, but not for cloverleafs.

Years ago the AMA had a promo film clubs could rent, that highlighted the various control line disciplines, it was pretty cool, narrated by the same guy that used to do the voiceover for NFL films in the 60's-70's, anyway the stunt section had close-ups of the pilots handle movement, it was pretty cool watching how they moved their hands and wrists, etc.

Mark,
It was interesting to see how different pilots held the handle. A few had the Rusty "sideways" hold when inverted. The thing I learned that will get put into practice first is embarrassingly obvious. When I wear a hat I have a hard time seeing the model during overhead manuevers. I watched everyone with a hat take it off when the model went overhead. Duh!

Jim

yep, I have/had that problem as well, I think most do when doing overhead eights, not going back far enough.

As far as form goes, it's like baseball batting, throwing football, darts, golf swing, etc. There are fundamental basic movements, after that whatever works for you. Just watch three major league batters get ready to swing at a pitch, they're all different, but the swing itself is pretty much the same.

I think the "english" is the way each individual is keeping his arm pointed at the plane. We all move differently. Although, I read somewhere that (at least in the past if not still) some judges were influenced by "Style or flair" while in the circle.

Mike

This is the profile I mentioned a few post up, this photo doesn't do it justice.

I see a ringmaster with a clear doped silkspan wing in my future.

Jim

That Oriental is just a gorgeous shape. I'm dying to start on mine.

Great video and pictures Jim!

Thanks, BTW I am a sideways handle guy when inverted.

While it's been suggested that the plane is a profile Oriental, I'm seeing many differences. The stab and elevator are not Oriental shaped. The rudder although hard to see from this view doesn't quite look correct either. A nicely built model nonetheless. Ken

Ken Cook wrote:             While it's been suggested that the plane is a profile Oriental, I'm seeing many differences. The stab and elevator are not Oriental shaped. The rudder although hard to see from this view doesn't quite look correct either. A nicely built model nonetheless. Ken

It's a Trophy Trainer.

Jim, this model and the Oriental are terrific planes for those like yourself headed in this direction. They're terrific flyers, this model and the Oriental have constant chord wings which makes building simple but also repairing. The same goes for your Twister. While I truly enjoy full bodied planes, I would certainly love to build many profiles. The Gieseke Nobler with the webbing you pictured is just fantastic. I have a Gieseke Nobler kit that I've been procrastinating on for years. We have a flyer at our club who flies this Nobler specifically. He unfortunately lost his ability to speak and rarely comes out. Ken

Thanks Jim; very nice looking planes ! and video was great looks like Leroy had it going on   I have not yet flown an larger C/L but I believe as soon as I get caught up with what I am into now the Shoestring that needs minimum repair   right will be my next c/l repair for lost of words... bellcrank repair , covering rudder , stab. covering yea boy have to get the old silk off of it   Eric