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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
Thanks for the nice posts guys, the new Cameron .199 was delivered yesterday, it even had the Ohlsson & Rice plug. Buying from n-rod was a good experience, we agreed on price and it was here in two days.
A nice manual for the .199 Lightning bug was included, the manual has been a big help in learning about these cars. Going to send a copy to Jacob to post.
A nice manual for the .199 Lightning bug was included, the manual has been a big help in learning about these cars. Going to send a copy to Jacob to post.
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
Crank:
If it will do you any good starting the car I have a 12V electric starter with or without a gel-cell battery the I will DONATE to the cause. You pay only for the shipping from 98387.
The starter is intended for use on model airplane engines but could easily be adapted to belt-start a car.
The starter was given me some years ago and I have no use for it.
Please advise,
SuperDave
If it will do you any good starting the car I have a 12V electric starter with or without a gel-cell battery the I will DONATE to the cause. You pay only for the shipping from 98387.
The starter is intended for use on model airplane engines but could easily be adapted to belt-start a car.
The starter was given me some years ago and I have no use for it.
Please advise,
SuperDave
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
Thank you Dave, I appreciate your offer but though I want my cars in running condition I won't run them.
I used auto lacquer for paint and clear that is not fuel proof, I thought about a finish coat of LustreKote clear
just in case I got froggy but not sure if its compatible. Would have to test it first, LustreKote is acrylic lacquer so it should be
compatible. But not likely I'll fuel these cars.
I used auto lacquer for paint and clear that is not fuel proof, I thought about a finish coat of LustreKote clear
just in case I got froggy but not sure if its compatible. Would have to test it first, LustreKote is acrylic lacquer so it should be
compatible. But not likely I'll fuel these cars.
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
Crank:
I've used Lustrecoat over decals to fuel-proof them with good result. It's important NOT to lay-on Lustrecoat too thick or it will sag.
SD
I've used Lustrecoat over decals to fuel-proof them with good result. It's important NOT to lay-on Lustrecoat too thick or it will sag.
SD
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The body is almost done, I need to place black decals over the hood straps. That black paint can jump at least a foot and get on you and everything else and you don't
know how it got there. Painting the seat was a real PITA, my hand shakes to much to freehand it, I had to mask the body and no kind of tape would work. I wound up using Bob Dively Liquid Mask, I had to paint it on
then knife the paint lines and remove the excess. It worked OK. The trim parts are repro from eBay seller Keller-Kraft, they are not bad. Now for the drivetrain.
know how it got there. Painting the seat was a real PITA, my hand shakes to much to freehand it, I had to mask the body and no kind of tape would work. I wound up using Bob Dively Liquid Mask, I had to paint it on
then knife the paint lines and remove the excess. It worked OK. The trim parts are repro from eBay seller Keller-Kraft, they are not bad. Now for the drivetrain.
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
This is looking really good and nicely presented. I love to see restorations like this.
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
The black hood straps and dash decal will make it look even better. Very nice work Crank!
SD
Cox Champion #96 (non-powered)
SD
Cox Champion #96 (non-powered)
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The engine and drive unit are ready to drop in, the engine is n-rods NIB .199 and the drive unit came with the car.
The car had an .09 engine when I got it, what I didn't know was the 15 tooth pinion from the .09 will not fit the .15 and the .199 crankshaft.
That left me needing a pinion for the .199, oh crap, I emailed the eBay sellers with no luck then I tried Gary Arnold at www.tlctethercar.com.
He sold me the pinion so I could finish the drive, I also got the repro tires from him. Very nice guy to deal with.
I'll drop in the power train and almost done.
This shows the drives and gears that came on these cars, the 15 tooth pinion and 30 tooth ring gear is a 2:1 ratio, you could also get a 1 3/4:1 ratio
with a 16 tooth pinion and 28 tooth ring gear for the .15 and .199.
The car had an .09 engine when I got it, what I didn't know was the 15 tooth pinion from the .09 will not fit the .15 and the .199 crankshaft.
That left me needing a pinion for the .199, oh crap, I emailed the eBay sellers with no luck then I tried Gary Arnold at www.tlctethercar.com.
He sold me the pinion so I could finish the drive, I also got the repro tires from him. Very nice guy to deal with.
I'll drop in the power train and almost done.
This shows the drives and gears that came on these cars, the 15 tooth pinion and 30 tooth ring gear is a 2:1 ratio, you could also get a 1 3/4:1 ratio
with a 16 tooth pinion and 28 tooth ring gear for the .15 and .199.
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
It took me a while to get the drive train set, it is really shoehorned in there. Only thing left is the hood decals, they are in the mail.
I really like the model, all it took was a lot of work and dollars squared. Got my eye on another .199 with drive unit for the next one.
Some of the cars in my collection
I really like the model, all it took was a lot of work and dollars squared. Got my eye on another .199 with drive unit for the next one.
Some of the cars in my collection
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Crank:
Gary Arnold came with my enthusiatic endorsement. A first-rate guy and excellent resource IMO.
SD
Gary Arnold came with my enthusiatic endorsement. A first-rate guy and excellent resource IMO.
SD
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
WOW! Really Nice!
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You did a really good job. Is the paint fuel proof?
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Yeah, great job! It looks like new! Neil (n-rob), sent me a great copy of the manual that I will scan and get uploaded onto the Instruction Sheets page.
Re: Thimble Drome Champion
Outstanding job Doug.
I'm somewhat at a loss for words.
Thanks for doing it, and sharing.
I need a cigarette.
Bob
I'm somewhat at a loss for words.
Thanks for doing it, and sharing.
I need a cigarette.
Bob
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
Unbelievably beautiful results.
Phil
Phil
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Thanks for all the kind posts and all the help I got, I learned a lot about these cars doing my first restoration.
I didn't want to put it back to factory original condition, made it how I liked it.
I wanted to contribute to the forum and it looks like I'll never get to fly my .049 models, been trying for two years to get in the air so I went to the cars.
The paint and clear is Dupli-color lacquer from any auto parts store and is not fuel proof, been looking at a top coat of either SprayMax K-2 acrylic urethane
or LusterKote clear. I used K-2 in the past and it looks like glass but is costs and has no shelf life. Its really nasty stuff but bullet proof when its done.
Thanks again, crank out!
I didn't want to put it back to factory original condition, made it how I liked it.
I wanted to contribute to the forum and it looks like I'll never get to fly my .049 models, been trying for two years to get in the air so I went to the cars.
The paint and clear is Dupli-color lacquer from any auto parts store and is not fuel proof, been looking at a top coat of either SprayMax K-2 acrylic urethane
or LusterKote clear. I used K-2 in the past and it looks like glass but is costs and has no shelf life. Its really nasty stuff but bullet proof when its done.
Thanks again, crank out!
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I found my second Champion car a few days ago, a new eBay seller did not do the homework and offered this at 39.00$ BIN. I jumped on it, the listing didn't last long.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roy-Cox-Thimble-Drome-Tether-Car-/271201941640?pt=US_Radio_Control_Control_Line&hash=item3f24e53888
I thought the car might be original and I would just leave it as is but the seat bottom had been cut for a different drivetrain. The original drivetrain has never been run,
the .15 engine is new as is the axle and gears. Wow, sweet find!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roy-Cox-Thimble-Drome-Tether-Car-/271201941640?pt=US_Radio_Control_Control_Line&hash=item3f24e53888
I thought the car might be original and I would just leave it as is but the seat bottom had been cut for a different drivetrain. The original drivetrain has never been run,
the .15 engine is new as is the axle and gears. Wow, sweet find!
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
Since the seat has already been cut I'm thinking about mounting a McCoy .29 in the car. I found an adaptor kit that mounts the engine, it drops into the Thimble Drome body
and has axle, gears, flywheel, all the parts to make it work. I think this is the .29 I need.
and has axle, gears, flywheel, all the parts to make it work. I think this is the .29 I need.
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
Crank:
I'd repectfully point out that the rear-intake McCoy would be sucking exhaust from an already cramped engine compartment.
Good buy on the new car though!
SD
I'd repectfully point out that the rear-intake McCoy would be sucking exhaust from an already cramped engine compartment.
Good buy on the new car though!
SD
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I should have never done it, got that first Champion tether car. Now I'm hooked on the larger cars, my wife is gonna KILL me.
Got this car from a nice gent name Tony Orlando from Springfield, Virginia. Tony is quite a craftsman and made this tribute to
Dick McCoy. Its a McCoy Invader and I'm in deep poop now.
Got this car from a nice gent name Tony Orlando from Springfield, Virginia. Tony is quite a craftsman and made this tribute to
Dick McCoy. Its a McCoy Invader and I'm in deep poop now.
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Since you are in 'deep ' already. Here's something you'll like.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COX-THIMBLE-DROME-CHAMPION-15-TETHER-CAR-/281119609487?pt=US_Radio_Control_Control_Line&hash=item417408d28f
Or maybe you want to buy flowers with the rest of your money. I'd go with the flowers, but what do I know. I just go back from dinner with my beautiful wife of 21 year (today).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COX-THIMBLE-DROME-CHAMPION-15-TETHER-CAR-/281119609487?pt=US_Radio_Control_Control_Line&hash=item417408d28f
Or maybe you want to buy flowers with the rest of your money. I'd go with the flowers, but what do I know. I just go back from dinner with my beautiful wife of 21 year (today).
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Wow 21 years, thats great! November will be my 21st, and I've used up all my flower power:hit_the_fan:
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
A size comparison, too big to hide under the bed!
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Re: Thimble Drome Champion
The innards of the Beast, the cars raced in the 40s, 50s had spark ignition and had to carry points, coil, condenser and battery onboard.
To shut them down they used a switch that was tripped using a rag as the car passed by. This car was built from a kit from dick McCoy
in the early 90s using a .60 glow engine. All it needed was a battery and hot lead to the glow head with a switch to kill power once the engine fired.
To shut it down there is a mechanical fuel shutoff tripped with a rag. This engine looks massive after running .049s.
To shut them down they used a switch that was tripped using a rag as the car passed by. This car was built from a kit from dick McCoy
in the early 90s using a .60 glow engine. All it needed was a battery and hot lead to the glow head with a switch to kill power once the engine fired.
To shut it down there is a mechanical fuel shutoff tripped with a rag. This engine looks massive after running .049s.
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