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Pietenpols and Other Puddle Jumpers
nitroairplane wrote:
"Kim wrote:Yeah, as I posted when I first arrived here, I am one lucky fellow. Got a good boss and crew to work with.
The Piet is extremely basic, and is incredibly fun to fly. I get accused of licensing and flying around in a big model airplane!"
"I always had a soft spot for them they remind me of the blunderbus .010 that you made and also they are very homemade an that's why they appeal to me
Did you build it?
If I was gonna get a plane id go with a piet."
I bought Piet from a good friend in 1985...watched him like a circling vulture for 8 years 'till he put it up for sale!
I was a major Richard Bach fan back then, and immediately started traveling the Midwest, camping under the wing, and meeting hundreds of wonderful people. In those days before 9-11, the skys were a much friendlier place, and I often wandered, with only a general idea of where I was going, "'till Mother Nature's call" or the need for fuel made me figure out where I was, and find an airport.
The Pietenpol Reunion at Brodhead, Wisconsin was a mandatory summer trip through the 1990's.
I also made about 6 flights into to the EAA Convention in Oshkosh.
Oshkosh is fun, but very stressful (at least for me), both for the packed sky you fly through to get there, and because they've loosened their restrictions on who can get to your airplane. Piet's control were messed with several times while I was out looking at other planes. I once returned to find it's mag switch turned on...a VERY dangerous prank, and became afraid to leave it without enlisting a fellow flyer to "stand guard" as we viewed the displays in shifts. This induced paranoia took a lot of enjoyment out of the experience, and I eventually stopped going there. It was a shame, and I somewhat miss it, but I won't have my aircraft fooled-with.
My longest flight was a 2500 mile loop in 1990 from Missouri to Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome in Rhinebeck, New York. I camped on the field and got to meet and visit with Founder Cole Palen. It was a treasured experience to meet one of my heroes AND see aircraft that actually made Piet look pretty high-tech !
Though I call it a "Piet" the plane is actually a Grega GN-1. In the early 60's, a man named John Grega took the Pietenpol Aircamper design, and changed it dimensions so the builders could use off-the-shelf fittings and structures like the landing gear legs and engine mounts from Cubs. The true Pietenpols require you to either make or contract out the fittings...a source of pride for the builders which I understand. When I bought Piet, I had no idea of this, and was quickly set straight upon my first visit at their reunion! Many of the folks there were friends of Bernard Pietenpol, and had a problem with this plagiarism of his design. They tolerated me though, and I was often enlisted as a camera plane to carry a photographer or cameraman to get footage of the "Real" Piets!
Sorry for this encyclopedia/post, but I DO like this stuff !
As I said...I AM a very lucky guy!
"Kim wrote:Yeah, as I posted when I first arrived here, I am one lucky fellow. Got a good boss and crew to work with.
The Piet is extremely basic, and is incredibly fun to fly. I get accused of licensing and flying around in a big model airplane!"
"I always had a soft spot for them they remind me of the blunderbus .010 that you made and also they are very homemade an that's why they appeal to me
Did you build it?
If I was gonna get a plane id go with a piet."
I bought Piet from a good friend in 1985...watched him like a circling vulture for 8 years 'till he put it up for sale!
I was a major Richard Bach fan back then, and immediately started traveling the Midwest, camping under the wing, and meeting hundreds of wonderful people. In those days before 9-11, the skys were a much friendlier place, and I often wandered, with only a general idea of where I was going, "'till Mother Nature's call" or the need for fuel made me figure out where I was, and find an airport.
The Pietenpol Reunion at Brodhead, Wisconsin was a mandatory summer trip through the 1990's.
I also made about 6 flights into to the EAA Convention in Oshkosh.
Oshkosh is fun, but very stressful (at least for me), both for the packed sky you fly through to get there, and because they've loosened their restrictions on who can get to your airplane. Piet's control were messed with several times while I was out looking at other planes. I once returned to find it's mag switch turned on...a VERY dangerous prank, and became afraid to leave it without enlisting a fellow flyer to "stand guard" as we viewed the displays in shifts. This induced paranoia took a lot of enjoyment out of the experience, and I eventually stopped going there. It was a shame, and I somewhat miss it, but I won't have my aircraft fooled-with.
My longest flight was a 2500 mile loop in 1990 from Missouri to Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome in Rhinebeck, New York. I camped on the field and got to meet and visit with Founder Cole Palen. It was a treasured experience to meet one of my heroes AND see aircraft that actually made Piet look pretty high-tech !
Though I call it a "Piet" the plane is actually a Grega GN-1. In the early 60's, a man named John Grega took the Pietenpol Aircamper design, and changed it dimensions so the builders could use off-the-shelf fittings and structures like the landing gear legs and engine mounts from Cubs. The true Pietenpols require you to either make or contract out the fittings...a source of pride for the builders which I understand. When I bought Piet, I had no idea of this, and was quickly set straight upon my first visit at their reunion! Many of the folks there were friends of Bernard Pietenpol, and had a problem with this plagiarism of his design. They tolerated me though, and I was often enlisted as a camera plane to carry a photographer or cameraman to get footage of the "Real" Piets!
Sorry for this encyclopedia/post, but I DO like this stuff !
As I said...I AM a very lucky guy!
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That's neat stuff Kim, Thanks!.
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Sure you are a lucky guy, this is a wonderful little plane... I'd love to fly in one of these
I don't have a precise knowledge of rules about small aircrafts in Belgium, but I know it would be nearly impossible to register and fly this here...
I don't have a precise knowledge of rules about small aircrafts in Belgium, but I know it would be nearly impossible to register and fly this here...
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Kim,
Great pics of a great little plane.
I have a friend that bought a quarter share in a Piet in Naples, FL. He needed a five hour check out so off we went together for five hours of fun. The most memorable part was doing touch and goes. My friend probably weighed about 225 and I weigh in just shy of 200 pounds. Add to this our way over 90 degree temp and the 75-100' trees at the end of the runway and you can understand why this flight is still so vivid in my memory. Needless to say, we not only cheated death but had an absolute blast doing it. We were just two big kids playing with a big toy. It was great.
Aren't we all lucky!?
Bob
Great pics of a great little plane.
I have a friend that bought a quarter share in a Piet in Naples, FL. He needed a five hour check out so off we went together for five hours of fun. The most memorable part was doing touch and goes. My friend probably weighed about 225 and I weigh in just shy of 200 pounds. Add to this our way over 90 degree temp and the 75-100' trees at the end of the runway and you can understand why this flight is still so vivid in my memory. Needless to say, we not only cheated death but had an absolute blast doing it. We were just two big kids playing with a big toy. It was great.
Aren't we all lucky!?
Bob
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Re: Pietenpols and Other Puddle Jumpers
I dunno if I could fly in one of those because I am very scared of flying.
I think I would fare slightly better in a pet than a jet I hate jets because they just don't feel right but piston driven planes feel better.
I've flown in a cessna 182 and that was ok a little better than a jet.
But these little planes really apeal to me from the ground but if I got in the air I'd be too scared to admire them.
Just today a I flew in a jet and did not enjoy it one bit!!!
(I'm in Portugal now)
I think I would fare slightly better in a pet than a jet I hate jets because they just don't feel right but piston driven planes feel better.
I've flown in a cessna 182 and that was ok a little better than a jet.
But these little planes really apeal to me from the ground but if I got in the air I'd be too scared to admire them.
Just today a I flew in a jet and did not enjoy it one bit!!!
(I'm in Portugal now)
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Portugal? And how long are you staying?
I'm going there next week
BTW, I never flew in a smaller plane than an Airbus, I wish I could...
I'm going there next week
BTW, I never flew in a smaller plane than an Airbus, I wish I could...
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I'm staying until Saturday.ideeman1994 wrote:Portugal? And how long are you staying?
I'm going there next week
BTW, I never flew in a smaller plane than an Airbus, I wish I could...
Where are you staying?
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ideeman1994 wrote:In Lisbon
Cool do you surf?
I flew to Lisbon airport.
On the motorway there is actually some really nice street art/graffiti.
Re: Pietenpols and Other Puddle Jumpers
ideeman1994 wrote:No, I don't, the water is way too cold for me
I went in yesterday and the water is fine but the waves were up to 15 foot.
Re: Pietenpols and Other Puddle Jumpers
Coming back to the main subject, Kim, is this a Yak 52 on your avatar? Nice plane too
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sure does look like it.ideeman1994 wrote:Coming back to the main subject, Kim, is this a Yak 52 on your avatar? Nice plane too
Re: Pietenpols and Other Puddle Jumpers
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a 52...not real familiar with the Yaks. The photo is about 5 years old, and I'm not sure if John still has it. He and his father ran an Avionics Shop (among half-a-dozen other pursuits), and the Yak was one of the planes they owned. He had flown it over to our airport for a wash job while doing some general running around.
We took turns sitting in it, but I never had the time to cash in on my offered ride.
We took turns sitting in it, but I never had the time to cash in on my offered ride.
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Kim wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a 52...not real familiar with the Yaks. The photo is about 5 years old, and I'm not sure if John still has it. He and his father ran an Avionics Shop (among half-a-dozen other pursuits), and the Yak was one of the planes they owned. He had flown it over to our airport for a wash job while doing some general running around.
We took turns sitting in it, but I never had the time to cash in on my offered ride.
Yeah that is a 52 for sure!!!
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nitroairplane wrote:Did you ever have to deadstick in the piet?
No, and hopefully that will continue to be the case. I've made cautionary landings when I thought the engine wasn't right, and intentionally landed in a lot of pastures, but Piet has yet (Knock on Wood) to fail me.
This was NOT the case with my very first flying machine, a UFM "Easy Riser" ultralight I built in 1980.
I had at least eight failures of it's little Chrysler/West Bend engine, so much so that I became quite proficient at carrying my plane back to the flying field! We experimented with different fuel/oil mixes, synthetic and dinosaur oil, spark plugs and everything else I could think of, but the little engine would STILL just decide to quit when it felt like it. Not all engine failures put me down off-field...I tended to fly high, and the Riser was a hangglider first, so I could cover quite a bit of ground, even without power, and several times made it back to the field.
There were two of us flying these things, and when one of us had an engine failure, the other would fly back to our field, get a truck and long trailer, and head out to retrieve their friend. We met a lot of people!
The cool thing was that, when I finally decided to take flying lessons, my instructor didn't have to spend much time lecturing me about staying calm if the engine quit...I was surprised if it didn't!
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Re: Pietenpols and Other Puddle Jumpers
Well if thengine failed a lot you should have swapped it for 250 tee dee .010s
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nitroairplane wrote:Well if thengine failed a lot you should have swapped it for 250 tee dee .010s
At one point, I WAS contemplating swapping out the West Bend for Two McColluch two-stroke engines that LOOKED like model airplane engines. A fellow that occasionally flew with us had a Lazair twin-engine ultralight that used these, and he seemed to fly all over the place with no care about them quitting.
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I suppose with small 2 strokes there is not much to go wrong.the circri has 2 model like engines on it.
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That Yak might be a CJ-6. I don't know how to spell it but is is like Nanchang CJ-6. That is the Chinese copy which is very slightly modified-or so I have been told.
Cool planes with funky pneumatic systems. Very basic and relatively easy to work on, except for the metric stuff.
Bob
Cool planes with funky pneumatic systems. Very basic and relatively easy to work on, except for the metric stuff.
Bob
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nitroairplane wrote:I suppose with small 2 strokes there is not much to go wrong.the circri has 2 model like engines on it.
Yeah...ANOTHER airplane that I love but am too big to fit in !
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I'll get some facts on the Yak/Nanchang, and find out if John still owns it.
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Re: Pietenpols and Other Puddle Jumpers
Yeah the cricri is really cool and one guy even made and rc jet powered one.
But have you seen the stits playmate?
That is q funny plane as is the bumble bee ll.
But yeah some info ikon that Yak would be great.
But have you seen the stits playmate?
That is q funny plane as is the bumble bee ll.
But yeah some info ikon that Yak would be great.
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