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Post  shell shock Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:26 pm

hey guys, just thought i would share my easy electric to glow conversion. Just bought the plane last night and will be strapping my lovely golden bee to the front.

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now onto the issue,
a) how to fuel proof this?
b) best material for fire wall?

thanks guys

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Post  Cribbs74 Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:05 pm

shell shock wrote:hey guys, just thought i would share my easy electric to glow conversion. Just bought the plane last night and will be strapping my lovely golden bee to the front.

now onto the issue,
a) how to fuel proof this?
b) best material for fire wall?

thanks guys

-SS

Add some pics so we can see what you are talking about. Very Happy
We need to see what materials you are working with!

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Post  John Goddard Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:30 pm

When I glowed my Old Timer (Multiplex Hummel) I put
A ply firewall in and used watered down epoxy to fuel
Proof from the ply forward to spinner to be safe.
After flying a few times it became apparent that Cox
Fuel reaches the parts others don't.....
I bathed the fuz in washing up liquid then petrol
(gas) dried it out for a couple days then fuel
Proofed as far back inside the fuz as my paint brush
Would reach.
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Post  shell shock Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:21 pm

gahh, the link didnt post..

here is is

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Post  Cribbs74 Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:37 pm

That looks like a real easy conversion. Just monokote (or similar) the firewall in and do what John said to any exposed wood. You could also lustercote or dope.

That GB should bolt right on with no mod needed. The firewall is ply right? If not make it 1/8 ply and epoxy it in.

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Post  RknRusty Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:19 pm

Monokote would be fuel proof, but I bet it's covered with Parklite which is not.

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Post  shell shock Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:23 pm

@Rusty, is there a way to tell?

@Cribs74, would i just spray the whole model with lusterkote?
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Post  Cribbs74 Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:09 pm

shell shock wrote:@Rusty, is there a way to tell?

@Cribs74, would i just spray the whole model with lusterkote?

Well, you possibly could, it is made to be able to cover monokote, but it will add weight. I don't know if it's compatible with Parklite or whatever it's called. I have brushed it on before with acceptable results.

I guess the best bet is to wait and see what your up against when the kit arrives.

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Post  microflitedude Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:25 pm

Pictures?

Did you pay $80 for the ARF?
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Post  shell shock Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:52 pm

Matt, I got the ARF for 50 and change.

My hobby King order:

1x Idol ARF with electronics and such
2x orange dsm2 receivers.

my plan is to take the motor and ESC and build my GF a foamie Smile she said she wants to try RC.


all in all $108 Canadian with EMS shipping and paypal fees.

now I just need to see about spraying the whole thing in clear lusterkote.

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Post  microflitedude Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:32 pm

It's showing a total of $86 just for the plane. That's too much for me. No
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Post  WingingIt74 Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:36 pm

Don't forget you have to fuel proof the battery tray under the nose... I believe the wood is also exposed there as well.
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Post  RknRusty Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:02 pm

shell shock wrote:@Rusty, is there a way to tell?
Oh, I missed the question, sorry. But no I don't know how to tell. I haven't ever used the Parklite stuff.

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Post  WingingIt74 Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:11 pm

I was looking at that model too, but I'm a big fan of ailerons Smile
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Post  microflitedude Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:15 pm

WingingIt74 wrote:I was looking at that model too, but I'm a big fan of ailerons Smile

This is probably an easy mod on the kit version.
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Post  shell shock Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:40 pm

RknRusty wrote:
shell shock wrote:@Rusty, is there a way to tell?
Oh, I missed the question, sorry. But no I don't know how to tell. I haven't ever used the Parklite stuff.

Sorry, should have re-phrased that, I ment, is there a way to tell of its monokote or anyother brand?

@Matt:

Yah, i was just looking for something to throw around the park. RC sims can only go so far
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Post  mitchg95 Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:49 pm

speaking of electric to glow, im working on converting a 1/24 scale losi sct to cox .010 power. Ill need a new chassis and plan on starting on that piece tomorrow in my machining class
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Post  RknRusty Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:19 pm

shell shock wrote:...Sorry, should have re-phrased that, I meant, is there a way to tell of its monokote or any other brand?
Side by side I could only make a good guess. Monokote is harder feeling and less springy than Ultracote. I might be able to thump the area between a rib bay and possibly tell which is which, but the real answer for me is, no.

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Post  John Goddard Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:31 am

Great looking plane SS I may have to get one for my dragonfly
And the flying comp.

Matt you must be looking at the wrong bit, I've got 57 bucks and
Cos it's been on my screen for 10 mins they've just offered it
To me for 54.

Travis, with something this small + floaty I'd plug rudder servo
Into channel 1 on RX then fly rudder as aileron you'll barely
Tell the difference.

Quite amusing to see the comments underneath where people
Talk about the possibility of tip stalling. Very Happy
I'd be willing to bet even Bob Hoover couldn't tip stall or spin this
Model.


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Post  shell shock Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:13 am

@ john
The reason i chose this one is that; a) my friend said it was awesome, just that the motor was shyt (wont bother me Wink ) and b) it looks like it will be fun to fly on those laid back days when i just want to glide around the sky. Should be a good fly, and this will prob be my comp runner too! RC Plane


Im just thinking of ways to fill in that battery hatch without adding too much weight to it. monokote most likely.
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Post  andrew Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:10 am

shell shock wrote:
Im just thinking of ways to fill in that battery hatch without adding too much weight to it. monokote most likely.

The fuselage may be too narrow to get a monokote iron in, expecially on the bottom side of the battery box plate. If you don't want to invest in monokote, you can use heavy duty clear packing tape. I prefer the long lasting storage tapes because the adhesives are formulated to withstand greater temperature variations and the tapes seem to remain more flexible over time. The edges will need to be sealed, but the tape is impervious to most fuels and almost impossible to puncture.

You could also use some of the lighter weight colored tapes -- the location is pretty well protected, so puncturing is less likely to occur.

Applying the tape can be a little aggrevating, especially the storage tapes because the adhesive is so tacky, but once stuck down, it will be there to stay.

The plane in the attached pic has had a strip of clear storage tape in the bottom for several years -- without wheels, it really helps protect the fuselage when landing.

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Post  shell shock Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:53 pm

good advice all around. well, the plane has left the warehouse and should be here in 1-2 weeks Computer Issues

Packing tape sounds really clever actually
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Post  shell shock Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:14 am

scratch that, 5-7 days until its here
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Post  shell shock Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:24 pm

Its enrout to my house as we speak. why am I in class?
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Post  shell shock Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:51 am

I went to the post office to pick up the plane last night. Its a really nice set. The only thing i am disappointed with is the finish of the covering and the instructions. I managed to break the damn thing already. split the fuselage at the tail area by trying to build the tail section by the pictures. I misjudged a picture and snap. Its nothing a small dab of Epoxy cant fix though Sad

Over all, Its a nice kit, just some of the little things.

Still, I cant wait to get this sucker in the air! RC Plane

I will have pics tonight after work

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