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Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
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Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
This is a 1972 AMC Matador sedan from the tv show 'Adam 12'.
Originally built by Cox as a gas powered free-run car with interchangable steering cams that made it drive patterns. Originally owned by my dad, stored for quite a while.
Let's try to ruin the collector value! i mean try to improve on it a bit.
Stripped the chassis
She may not be the new Bluesmobile, but i think it's going to work out ok. As found it was missing 2 headlight lenses, and a lightbar lens. But I can work aound that...
I wasn't around when these were, so i needed some help on lighting patterns. I grew up mostly with CrownVics with a red/blue lightbar up to the current lumen-wars night-blindness causing dangerous walls of light.
Learned that the forward facing red roof lights come on solid, the rear amber lights wigwag around 1 Hz. Nothing else fancy with the lights.
Anyway, some research later i found out the tail lights are wrong. 1972 should have 9 segments, 4 red, 1 white, 4 red. This has 7 segment all red, so i guess it should probably be 3-1-3. Or i'll leave it all red and pretend it's not wrong because i'm not a rivet counter. Don't look at me like that!
Roof lights are chrome version of either: Trio sales T-2, S&M lamp 757, Highway Safety 1757. Siren is a Federal Signal PA20A, through a Federal Signal CP-25 speaker.
Start off doing the *really* important work on this soon to be radio controlled car that doesn't move...
A pair of 3mm leds, magnet wire, a 0.028 drillbit, and an excessive amount of patience later, i
have exhausted the swear words i know.
Copy 1-adam-12, code 3
Needs more flashy lights!
But you're probably asking yourself, why would i make a 1/14 scale RC police car?
That was in Jan 2018. At that meet, my friend with the gmc crackerbox holmes 550 wrecker took some parts back with him and machined the adapters to mate my donor transaxle to original wheels.
Several failed mount ideas later...
6 channel rx, 10a esc, micro servo, 6cell nimh. Hacked servo board running the led body lights.
Then in August we were patrolling the warehouse district at the Lebabon IN "Back to the Fifties'' festival
1adam12, 1adam12 vehicle accident with roll-over, entrapment.
Then one day I took it to work one day to show a friend and managed to lose one of my tail light lenses, hopefully it's somewhere in the house or real car.
I need to pick up a radio switched channel circuit, so i can setup the roof lights correctly. When activated Reds to be on solid, Ambers alternate flash.
Also needing to get a sound module, which might need seperate remote switch. Thinking i need this one
https://www.modeltrainsoftware.com/products/police-siren-diecast
I've thought about trying to fit a full light controller system that runs turnsignals, brake lights, and other stuff correctly while driving, but i'm probably not going to so i can avoid installing front signals, reverse lights, high beams, plate light. Plus the chassis is getting a little tight
I need a taillight lens if anyone has a Matador parts car.
I also have parts that came off it, in case anyone needs them.
Originally built by Cox as a gas powered free-run car with interchangable steering cams that made it drive patterns. Originally owned by my dad, stored for quite a while.
Let's try to ruin the collector value! i mean try to improve on it a bit.
Stripped the chassis
She may not be the new Bluesmobile, but i think it's going to work out ok. As found it was missing 2 headlight lenses, and a lightbar lens. But I can work aound that...
I wasn't around when these were, so i needed some help on lighting patterns. I grew up mostly with CrownVics with a red/blue lightbar up to the current lumen-wars night-blindness causing dangerous walls of light.
Learned that the forward facing red roof lights come on solid, the rear amber lights wigwag around 1 Hz. Nothing else fancy with the lights.
Anyway, some research later i found out the tail lights are wrong. 1972 should have 9 segments, 4 red, 1 white, 4 red. This has 7 segment all red, so i guess it should probably be 3-1-3. Or i'll leave it all red and pretend it's not wrong because i'm not a rivet counter. Don't look at me like that!
Roof lights are chrome version of either: Trio sales T-2, S&M lamp 757, Highway Safety 1757. Siren is a Federal Signal PA20A, through a Federal Signal CP-25 speaker.
Start off doing the *really* important work on this soon to be radio controlled car that doesn't move...
A pair of 3mm leds, magnet wire, a 0.028 drillbit, and an excessive amount of patience later, i
have exhausted the swear words i know.
Copy 1-adam-12, code 3
Needs more flashy lights!
But you're probably asking yourself, why would i make a 1/14 scale RC police car?
That was in Jan 2018. At that meet, my friend with the gmc crackerbox holmes 550 wrecker took some parts back with him and machined the adapters to mate my donor transaxle to original wheels.
Several failed mount ideas later...
6 channel rx, 10a esc, micro servo, 6cell nimh. Hacked servo board running the led body lights.
Then in August we were patrolling the warehouse district at the Lebabon IN "Back to the Fifties'' festival
1adam12, 1adam12 vehicle accident with roll-over, entrapment.
Then one day I took it to work one day to show a friend and managed to lose one of my tail light lenses, hopefully it's somewhere in the house or real car.
I need to pick up a radio switched channel circuit, so i can setup the roof lights correctly. When activated Reds to be on solid, Ambers alternate flash.
Also needing to get a sound module, which might need seperate remote switch. Thinking i need this one
https://www.modeltrainsoftware.com/products/police-siren-diecast
I've thought about trying to fit a full light controller system that runs turnsignals, brake lights, and other stuff correctly while driving, but i'm probably not going to so i can avoid installing front signals, reverse lights, high beams, plate light. Plus the chassis is getting a little tight
I need a taillight lens if anyone has a Matador parts car.
I also have parts that came off it, in case anyone needs them.
Last edited by Frizzen on Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:05 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Title)
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
The lights look terrific, you did a great job making that realistic. Nicely done I must say. Ken
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
"Let's try to ruin the collector value! I mean try to improve on it a bit."
My motto.
Interesting bit of technology. Looks like fun times.
Bob
My motto.
Interesting bit of technology. Looks like fun times.
Bob
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
Thanks guys,
'Ruin the collector value' is usually more fun, plus if you do it right even some of the collectors can appriciate the changes. Plus i try not to go after New In Box or Good condition stuff.
Little high revving 2-stroke constantly trying to smoke the tires didn't really seem to fit the police car all that much. It's now running a 130 size Electric motor through a gearbox with a spool diff, which is still more than able to put out more power than the old tires can take, or to drive it hard enough it just understeers. I've got the throttle end point adjustment set down below 50% to keep it controllable foor indoor events.
The body needs some of the White redone, nitro wasn't kind to it. Unfortunately i don't want to ditch the door decals, so i can't hit all the paint together. I'm going to touch up the chrome with a Molotow liquidchrome pen. I'm aiming for as close to realistic as possible.
Once i get the rest of my electronics all squared away, I've also been considering modifiing the chassis to add front suspension, or atleast putting an H-plate in the rear. I'm also thinking about making a cross-brace between rear fenders to help support the back of the body, probably with some velcro so the body doesnt jump.
Also been thinking an Action Van, Baja Bug, or Jeep would be fun to mess with too. I know the van was same chassis but with side-pipes and different wheels, and i like custom vans.
'Ruin the collector value' is usually more fun, plus if you do it right even some of the collectors can appriciate the changes. Plus i try not to go after New In Box or Good condition stuff.
Little high revving 2-stroke constantly trying to smoke the tires didn't really seem to fit the police car all that much. It's now running a 130 size Electric motor through a gearbox with a spool diff, which is still more than able to put out more power than the old tires can take, or to drive it hard enough it just understeers. I've got the throttle end point adjustment set down below 50% to keep it controllable foor indoor events.
The body needs some of the White redone, nitro wasn't kind to it. Unfortunately i don't want to ditch the door decals, so i can't hit all the paint together. I'm going to touch up the chrome with a Molotow liquidchrome pen. I'm aiming for as close to realistic as possible.
Once i get the rest of my electronics all squared away, I've also been considering modifiing the chassis to add front suspension, or atleast putting an H-plate in the rear. I'm also thinking about making a cross-brace between rear fenders to help support the back of the body, probably with some velcro so the body doesnt jump.
Also been thinking an Action Van, Baja Bug, or Jeep would be fun to mess with too. I know the van was same chassis but with side-pipes and different wheels, and i like custom vans.
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
Took it up to the RC Truck and Construction meet.
I let my ambulance steal the show in that pic because it's got a more impressive lighting setup, and since i run both of them from the same transmitter i couldn't power up both recievers. Besides the ambulance may need to leave in a hurry, while Adam-12 would be out of service on the scene until the incident was over and paperwork was done.
At one point there was a police chase involving a blue Semi that was going on a rampage. The chase ended without incident when the perpitrators father took the transmitter away from him and took him into custody.
I let my ambulance steal the show in that pic because it's got a more impressive lighting setup, and since i run both of them from the same transmitter i couldn't power up both recievers. Besides the ambulance may need to leave in a hurry, while Adam-12 would be out of service on the scene until the incident was over and paperwork was done.
At one point there was a police chase involving a blue Semi that was going on a rampage. The chase ended without incident when the perpitrators father took the transmitter away from him and took him into custody.
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
The whole time i've had the car, I'd been bummed about the ruined white paint, but i found out Iso-alcohol got the old gas schmoo cleaned off pretty easily. I can fix chipped easier.
So in celebration, it got chromed wiper arms. Then since the best looking cop car wheel setup is black steelies with dogbowls/babymoons and beauty rings, i added the set of chrome rings.
I knocked together a rear strut-tower brace, which is more of a rear body support and package tray through the back window. I'm probably going to punch the on/off switch up through it if i can find some kind of 'cop junk' like a hat or gun to make into a switch hider.
So in celebration, it got chromed wiper arms. Then since the best looking cop car wheel setup is black steelies with dogbowls/babymoons and beauty rings, i added the set of chrome rings.
I knocked together a rear strut-tower brace, which is more of a rear body support and package tray through the back window. I'm probably going to punch the on/off switch up through it if i can find some kind of 'cop junk' like a hat or gun to make into a switch hider.
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
Pretty neat. I like the whole show.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
Good Fun man , you guys got it going on with the inside show , chases lights and Friends
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
What a cool hobby, I love it!
We have a guy who's seriously into plastic modeling(mostly static, I think) that frequently visits our weekly Aeromodelers' Video Hangouts show. He has built over a thousand models and they are exquisitely beautiful. I don't recall where he lives, but his name is Pat Kennedy in case y'all ever cross paths.
Friz, I like your cool stuff and your sense of humor. Keep up the good work.
Rusty
We have a guy who's seriously into plastic modeling(mostly static, I think) that frequently visits our weekly Aeromodelers' Video Hangouts show. He has built over a thousand models and they are exquisitely beautiful. I don't recall where he lives, but his name is Pat Kennedy in case y'all ever cross paths.
Friz, I like your cool stuff and your sense of humor. Keep up the good work.
Rusty
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That's Cool, I Like The VW Bus Too !
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I'm glad you're enjoying this build as much as i have been. I'd been a little concerned sharing it with Cox engine lovers since i'm doing it 'wrong' with no engines.
Thanks akj, did i mention i like VWs?
Split lowrider pickup and green Bay bus are RC, the other two are potential.
RC Truck & Construction meet from last Sept where we take over part of a 4-H fairgrounds Rabbit barn to be entertainment for a festival
https://youtu.be/jiArsmsI6Us
Quadcopter view of the indoor layout
https://youtu.be/sjSy3irqRTs
Up to 2016 our group used to be part of a show with a diecast collector magazine
https://youtu.be/ARECsMO9TJs
Right now in the USA it's mostly about the semis and earthmoving equipment, because that's what's available in kits and ready to run, but there's more on the real roads than just trucks. The european meets tend to be more diverse in what people are running. Cars are often a cheaper and quicker way into this hobby, as trucks certainly aren't cheap, and hydraulic excavators are just expensive.
Thanks akj, did i mention i like VWs?
Split lowrider pickup and green Bay bus are RC, the other two are potential.
RC Truck & Construction meet from last Sept where we take over part of a 4-H fairgrounds Rabbit barn to be entertainment for a festival
https://youtu.be/jiArsmsI6Us
Quadcopter view of the indoor layout
https://youtu.be/sjSy3irqRTs
Up to 2016 our group used to be part of a show with a diecast collector magazine
https://youtu.be/ARECsMO9TJs
Right now in the USA it's mostly about the semis and earthmoving equipment, because that's what's available in kits and ready to run, but there's more on the real roads than just trucks. The european meets tend to be more diverse in what people are running. Cars are often a cheaper and quicker way into this hobby, as trucks certainly aren't cheap, and hydraulic excavators are just expensive.
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
It has pretty lights, but here's the other side of that.
Here's the wire harness it takes to run the body lights. Supplier issues mean the roof lights are still all currently setup as only solid instead of Red solid / Amber wig-wag.
Got my siren from Evan Designs. I'm happy to be able to know for sure the "9v" option works great off a 9v battery, a 7.2 stick pack, or even BEC regulated 4.5 - 6v rx voltage.
It has a momentary button to toggle sirens, Adam 12 can use the siren in mode 2 or 4. 'All the sounds' in sequence (1) and 'phaser' (3) just don't qutie fit early 70s american cops.
https://youtu.be/E_1qG0Ryx5Q
I'm probably going to have to pull the RX Switch out of my Ambulance so i can get the siren functional, and the roof lights correct for the contest. Also have to knock together a servo mount for the momentary switch for siren mode changes.
Need to pick up some white paint for some touch up, then chrome out the window trim.
It's coming together.
Here's the wire harness it takes to run the body lights. Supplier issues mean the roof lights are still all currently setup as only solid instead of Red solid / Amber wig-wag.
Got my siren from Evan Designs. I'm happy to be able to know for sure the "9v" option works great off a 9v battery, a 7.2 stick pack, or even BEC regulated 4.5 - 6v rx voltage.
It has a momentary button to toggle sirens, Adam 12 can use the siren in mode 2 or 4. 'All the sounds' in sequence (1) and 'phaser' (3) just don't qutie fit early 70s american cops.
https://youtu.be/E_1qG0Ryx5Q
I'm probably going to have to pull the RX Switch out of my Ambulance so i can get the siren functional, and the roof lights correct for the contest. Also have to knock together a servo mount for the momentary switch for siren mode changes.
Need to pick up some white paint for some touch up, then chrome out the window trim.
It's coming together.
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
There's no Wrong in modeling!Frizzen wrote:I'm glad you're enjoying this build as much as i have been. I'd been a little concerned sharing it with Cox engine lovers since i'm doing it 'wrong' with no engines.
Hey, what's not to love. Hippy vans, Micro Busses, Love Bugs, gray haired ponytails and tie-dyed clothes, the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.......did I mention i like VWs?
Rusty
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
Chassis layout.
Siren is a black chip, speaker, push button. It now has its own control servo since i wasn't feeling like trying to make a control circuit. Power is tapped off the RX bus with 2 pin servo lead. I knocked together a styrene switch holder. Took 2 servo horns for the round part, mounted them up into the servo horn. Took the switch mount and bonded that to servo case where the horn roller crosses. Then set the EPA on it to lightly go clicky. Now i just toggle switch D down/up to advance through siren settings and back off.
On/off switch is mounted in the package tray. Fwd is on.
My rig for this is a Flysky Fs-i6, a 6 channel stick-type radio on the 2.4ghz band
Drive is all on the right stick.
Body lights on thr channel, up is on
Roof lights on sw B, down is on. This way car turns on dark, light controls are all on left side of radio and come together for On
Cox engine so it won't be the only thread on the board without one
If you never messed with cars, the spring on the crankshaft starter knob is a worm gear for the spur gear that floated on the original hex axle, a switch let you mesh or clutch the engine from axle. Bolt on cooling head.
I think i'd like to deviate from screen accurate with the roof lights. Adam 12 had the Reds turn on solid, but now days wig-wag is better understood and is a whole lot better at getting attention.
Someone i work with is trying to convince me to get a couple digital sound recorders so i can throw a servo on the rudder channel to let me have some selectable 'radio traffic'. Maybe one being dispatched out on a run and the unit acknowledging, with the other marking back in service?
Siren is a black chip, speaker, push button. It now has its own control servo since i wasn't feeling like trying to make a control circuit. Power is tapped off the RX bus with 2 pin servo lead. I knocked together a styrene switch holder. Took 2 servo horns for the round part, mounted them up into the servo horn. Took the switch mount and bonded that to servo case where the horn roller crosses. Then set the EPA on it to lightly go clicky. Now i just toggle switch D down/up to advance through siren settings and back off.
On/off switch is mounted in the package tray. Fwd is on.
My rig for this is a Flysky Fs-i6, a 6 channel stick-type radio on the 2.4ghz band
Drive is all on the right stick.
Body lights on thr channel, up is on
Roof lights on sw B, down is on. This way car turns on dark, light controls are all on left side of radio and come together for On
Cox engine so it won't be the only thread on the board without one
If you never messed with cars, the spring on the crankshaft starter knob is a worm gear for the spur gear that floated on the original hex axle, a switch let you mesh or clutch the engine from axle. Bolt on cooling head.
I think i'd like to deviate from screen accurate with the roof lights. Adam 12 had the Reds turn on solid, but now days wig-wag is better understood and is a whole lot better at getting attention.
Someone i work with is trying to convince me to get a couple digital sound recorders so i can throw a servo on the rudder channel to let me have some selectable 'radio traffic'. Maybe one being dispatched out on a run and the unit acknowledging, with the other marking back in service?
Last edited by Frizzen on Fri May 24, 2019 12:28 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Shrink pic)
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
Figured i needed to show off the features, even if it's not great video.
I kept the speed backed down to about 40%, since my cameraman isn't used to working with rc cars.
https://youtu.be/7_NTYrLEdZU
https://youtu.be/8t_2RbHvJA8
https://youtu.be/JLaNmX_BLo0
Yes i know i need a video editor. I'm open to suggestions!
I kept the speed backed down to about 40%, since my cameraman isn't used to working with rc cars.
https://youtu.be/7_NTYrLEdZU
https://youtu.be/8t_2RbHvJA8
https://youtu.be/JLaNmX_BLo0
Yes i know i need a video editor. I'm open to suggestions!
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Re: Adam-12 . Electric, Radio Control conversion
Nifty, great effort and a lot of work and imagination there.
I enjoyed all your videos.
Bob
I enjoyed all your videos.
Bob
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