Couple Kittens followed me home..

Michpatriot Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:14 pm

Fun evening playing with new projects..

rsv1cox Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:29 pm

Nice. Facebook market place, flea market, friend...........?

What are your plans for them? I like it when things like that follow me home.

roddie Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:03 pm

There be some fun X2

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NEW222 Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:07 pm

Nice pair of Combat Kittens!

GallopingGhostler Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:16 pm

Interesting, plus you gained a Cox .049 beam motor mount, too. Looks like someone was getting around to recovering at one time. Nice find, wouldn't take much to get those two back in the air! Very Happy

Michpatriot Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:41 pm

A good buddy gave em to me today..and some econocoat..you guessed it Yellow!

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getback Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:49 am

Good Deal ! The Kittens are a nice pair of 1/2 A combat planes . I have 2 myself they could stand some repair but flyable . The EconoKote looks good how did it go on for you ? I have read that it doesn't hold up to good to fuel . Snowman

GallopingGhostler Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:06 am

getback wrote:Good Deal ! The Kittens are a nice pair of 1/2 A combat planes . I have 2 myself they could stand some repair but flyable . The EconoKote looks good how did it go on for you ? I have read that it doesn't hold up to good to fuel .

I used a good bit of Econokote on my R/C planes some time back, plus my Ringmaster Jr.'s wing was covered in it initially. Didn't seem to be a problem, but I religiously wiped down the aircraft with Fantastic cleaner spray of fuel residue, before heading home. I never noticed that. Cleaning had to be religiously done, especially if one used one of the so-called fuel proof foam safe spray paints.

May be if someone puts their planes away dirty, could be the case. I guess the slobber could loosen the Econokote glue.

Michpatriot Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:46 am

Thanks for the heads up on the Econogoop! Yeah it goes on..but gets cruddy/gummy/melty when I tried to get it tucked into the tight corners around the engine mount..couple layers later, called it fuelproof enuf. Trying hard not to become smitten with this kitten.. If I make it a couple laps that don't end in a figure 9, I just might do surgery on it and put one of my metal bellcranks in it.. but I think I might be in for a quick dirt lesson, I always wanted a wing, this is the perfect chance to try one relatively pain free!

getback Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:05 am

Sounds good no pain no gain LOL I read it as for foam and wood surfaces and LOW heat was used to apply , May have had it turned to hot i know i would have ! Never used the stuff Snowman

HalfaDave Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:03 am

Hi mitch,

I like, 'Smitten with this Kitten' Very Happy

Back in the day, they were 'twitchy' as hell...
But, we used the widest line spacing on our handles. (for sheet wings)
Try less handle spacing.
Also, 10 degrees up/down elevator is plenty...
Your results may vary, (CG is important)
Also,
The Econocote I have tried is like the old 'Soalarfilm' that is no longer made.
Sealed every seam with CA, no problems so far.
Hope this helps,
Dave

Ken Cook Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:15 pm

They were twitchy because of the control horn Top Flite provided. It needs to be taller and the twitchiness goes away. The elevator is moving far more than really needed.

Michpatriot Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:51 pm

Well I got horn choices..I was gettin twitchy just lookin at the amount of deflection!

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GallopingGhostler Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:58 pm

I see what Ken was talking about. The regular half-A horns are smaller. These were fine for sport aircraft with greater distance from wing to elevator. They with the Kitten's moving elevator closely coupled with the short fuselage booms in relation to wing makes these smaller less suitable. The larger horns unfortunately have larger holes, which one would have to put perhaps a piece of heat shrink tubing or small wiring insulation to remove the slop.

Some of the modern R/C horn hardware may have the smaller holes but greater length to reduce moment, perhaps a better replacement short of rolling your own horns, IMO.

Michpatriot Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:15 pm

Engine mounted..fuel system figured out..

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Michpatriot Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:22 pm

Came up with a new fuel pinch design..push button will allow to control the pinch allowing a little bump to give fuel in a controlled manner..once engine is started and happy just slide the line down to the run position..

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My finger is on "the button"

Michpatriot Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:24 pm

Another view..

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Michpatriot Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:27 pm

Bladder positioned on C/G ..fuel line in pinch ready for switch bump to prime..

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Michpatriot Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 pm

Top view..

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GallopingGhostler Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:34 pm

Now that looks like real serious business, @Michpatriot. Thumbs Up

(Nice clean, professionally laid out work also. Very Happy

) I've never messed with pressure systems, nor combat. Looks like that dual bypass ported postage stamp engine with high compression Tee Dee head will really move out.

Michpatriot Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:40 pm

Thank you! Might be faster than I can think..we will see..$35 invested..12hrs love and head scratchin..its gettin close now..when the temps get out of the single digits it'll get a test bench run..can't wait for spring flying weather. Circulation in the hands is the key.

Mike1484 Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:14 am

Combat kitten looks really good and ready for some streamer chomping . The fuel pinch off is just brilliant. I like it.
Mike1484

getback Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:06 am

Very Nice ! Hope you don't mine I stole the pics. of the fuel pinch off system , I think i could make a go of it with this my arthritis and the hemostats did not get along and never could get a run with the bladder system . Thanks That should get you spinning for sure I ran BB and Black widow on my two and they were fast enough for me . lol!

Michpatriot Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:44 am

Good deal Getback, I couldn't come to grips with the hemotweezrs either..I had a storm of thinkin to get the final idea ironed out, many ideas came and went, I had one similar given to me but it lacked the button to "blip" and prime with..The one I started with is from the F2d circles my friend is into..it worked but you still had to fiddle too much..

getback Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:56 am

Yea i like the idea of a blip to get a prime that makes it over the Top! Enter a pic of the engine also of coarse in the engine of the month . Very Happy

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