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Post  Nickerz Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:23 pm

This is my first post as I just found this forum I Love This Forum!  and hope to find more topics about COX models especially the E-Z Bee! Babe Bee

I just bought a NIB E-Z Bee off eBay and I created a BLOG for it here...
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3585779-Bought-A-COX-R-C-E-Z-Bee

I also stumbled upon a post from the guy who apparently created the prototype for the E-Z Bee here...
https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1178627-post6.html

Now back to my E-Z Bee I just bought. I'm really excited to own this for a 2nd time since this plane was my very first RC airplane ever but unfortunately I never got to fly it as I explain in my BLOG link above. Now that I have it again, I initially intended to fly it and have fun with it! RC Plane  However, seeing how rare this plane is becoming, I now think I want to keep it as a collectors item and collect more COX models (i.e., COX 049 Cesna 182 Skylane)! Cool

So how do we get COX to re-release these models like Tamiya has been doing!? Huh...  That would awesome! If I had the money, I'd resurrect this company! Small Cox Logo

Let me know if you have a NIB E-Z Bee or Cesna 182 Skylane please. If I get a 2nd E-Z Bee I'd be more willing to fly it knowing I have a NIB as a spare.

P.S. Man I love the emoji's in this forum too! Not to mention the mouse cursor is a COX Engine! Too cool!!!! Cool

P.P.S. Here are some pics of my Office/Hobby Room... Popcorn
COX R/C E-Z Bee... 2020-04-27-19-07-58

COX R/C E-Z Bee... 2019-06-14_19.16.58
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Help! Hope you enjoy it!

Post  happydad Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:38 pm

Nickerz wrote:This is my first post as I just found this forum I Love This Forum!  and hope to find more topics about COX models especially the E-Z Bee! Babe Bee

I just bought a NIB E-Z Bee off eBay and I created a BLOG for it here...
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3585779-Bought-A-COX-R-C-E-Z-Bee

I also stumbled upon a post from the guy who apparently created the prototype for the E-Z Bee here...
https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1178627-post6.html

Now back to my E-Z Bee I just bought. I'm really excited to own this for a 2nd time since this plane was my very first RC airplane ever but unfortunately I never got to fly it as I explain in my BLOG link above. Now that I have it again, I initially intended to fly it and have fun with it! RC Plane  However, seeing how rare this plane is becoming, I now think I want to keep it as a collectors item and collect more COX models (i.e., COX 049 Cesna 182 Skylane)! Cool

So how do we get COX to re-release these models like Tamiya has been doing!? Huh...  That would awesome! If I had the money, I'd resurrect this company! Small Cox Logo

Let me know if you have a NIB E-Z Bee or Cesna 182 Skylane please. If I get a 2nd E-Z Bee I'd be more willing to fly it knowing I have a NIB as a spare.

P.S. Man I love the emoji's in this forum too! Not to mention the mouse cursor is a COX Engine! Too cool!!!! Cool

P.P.S. Here are some pics of my Office/Hobby Room... Popcorn
COX R/C E-Z Bee... 2020-04-27-19-07-58

Nick: glad you like the kit. I started flying with a similar kit, but electric. I now have a couple of used ez-bees I have been trying to sell for another coxengineforum member for several years.
  I hope you are not using the original R-C equipment. It was pure junk. I look forward to following your blog about the ez-bee.

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Post  Nickerz Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:59 pm

Thanks for the reply! Can you PM me pics of the used ones please? Thx!
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Post  NEW222 Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:33 pm

Hi there Nickerz. Welcome to the forum, and glad you found us here. If you like, drop by the 'Introduction. forum to say hi and tell us about yourself. And hey, keep posting as you are, you seem to have it figured out aleady pretty well!
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Post  Levent Suberk Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:16 am

It is a very good plane.

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Post  akjgardner Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:03 am

Welcome to the Forum Nick .I also have a few of the EZ Bee 2 Kits. Thats what got me started back in the hobby . I would like to try to replicated it with a built up balsa version one of these days
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Help! hi nick

Post  davidll1984 Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:40 am

y own 1 ez bee its a grate plane u have there pay atention to him my lost his wing long gone now using wing y made for it wit elerons spektrum light weight reciver lipo batry black widow engine y use to go very hi and glide to land no landing gear on to save weight 2 ch is very not responsive to output slow turn weight is to heavy plane for litle wind day is good as is but room for upgrade y no most colector want oem stuf it just a go for crash wit old electronique it hapen conector go bad new stuf from 1990 servo wil need lube it may work fine til just stop for no reason y play wit 1970 stuf al of my model use new rc gear trust spektrum its great stuf trust me y have experiment lot of stuf and 27mhz am reciver get lot of trouble now 2020 to meny stuf use 27mhz tos old stuf in box is my sugestion if u lov3 it bether give it best rc gear posible to avoid crash du to RF lost y hope u get bether gear on it and for others using old stuf y no y have same way of tinking is sur change rc gear fo me was a hard desision y pay 1000 $for futaba wont pay 200$is sure is trash chinise stuf now y no its cal evolution old stuf from 1999 is not so good now its like for computer get rid of dinosor
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Help! here are a few pics of my boneyard

Post  happydad Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:11 pm

nick: i found parts of 2 Ez Bee planes. see below. i have more pics for you. PM me .

COX R/C E-Z Bee... Img_1014
1 set of pieces
COX R/C E-Z Bee... Img_1013
   the best wing. with 1/8 steel rod between.
COX R/C E-Z Bee... Img_1110
best fuselage with engine
COX R/C E-Z Bee... Img_1111
showing engine

thats all for now folks.

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Post  Nickerz Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:24 pm

Thanks for the replies guys and for making me feel welcome!

I loved that video of the EZ Bee II which was very detailed! Also, great points by David about using newer technology. I have and love Spektrum so it would make sense to use new electronics (receiver, servos, radio). A part of me would love to get the experience using the old OEM stuff just to see what I was missing as a kid but then I could end up crashing it or losing it.

Happydad,
I sent ya a PM about those pics. Thanks again for posting them but I do want to try to get a 2nd EZ Bee (yellow/white) that is in really good condition.

Guess what I found on the front cover of a copy in Model Airplane News magazine (December 1988 issue)? Yep, E-Z Bee! I'll post the entire article in another post right now...
https://www.coxengineforum.com/t14023-cox-r-c-e-z-bee-on-cover-of-model-airplane-news-magazine-1988-december-issue#181723
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Help! Old equipment too slow

Post  happydad Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:49 pm

Nick: if you do want to make a comparison of the old versus newer equipment, please don’t do it inflight. That old Sanwa system and servos were too slow and caused many crashes with delay between trying to turn one direction and actually going that way.
   p.s. after one or two flight your brand new ez bee will look like the pics I sent.

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Post  Nickerz Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:23 am

Very true Happydad! Yeah, I think I'll be dropping in new electrics to enjoy many years of flight.

By the way, I didn't even think about the delay in Servo travel which would be very interesting to say the least. So I kind of take a lot of the newer technology for granted that I use everyday today that didn't exist back then.

Thanks!
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Help! Electric cardinal

Post  happydad Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:13 pm

Nickerz wrote:Very true Happydad! Yeah, I think I'll be dropping in new electrics to enjoy many years of flight.

By the way, I didn't even think about the delay in Servo travel which would be very interesting to say the least. So I kind of take a lot of the newer technology for granted that I use everyday today that didn't exist back then.

Thanks!

Btw I also have a hobby lobby or tower hobby electric cardinal I purchased way back when. It had a brushed motor in a plastic motor mount, long since broken, and sits on the shelf.
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Help! ez bee pictur new in 1995 model

Post  davidll1984 Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:03 pm

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Help! Glow Plugs For COX Baby Bee .049 Engine...

Post  Nickerz Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:17 pm

Does anyone know if you have to buy the COX glow plugs (Part #: 325) to work in the 049 engine that comes in the E-Z Bee? Or are there other glow plugs I can use that are easier and cheaper to buy at my LHS?
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Post  Marleysky Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:23 am

Nickerz wrote:Does anyone know if you have to buy the COX glow plugs (Part #: 325) to work in the 049 engine that comes in the E-Z Bee? Or are there other glow plugs I can use that are easier and cheaper to buy at my LHS?

You DO have to use a Cox Glow head Standard #325 or High Compression. You also can buy an adapter and use a Hot Plug from EX-Model Engines: http://www.exmodelengines.com/home.php?cat=267 or Cox International https://coxengines.ca/

OR

you can also buy a "Turob Head Adaptor" and Source some Turbo Plugs off E Bay or your LHS IF they stock them
https://kamtechnik.com/product/ktk-11/

hows that saying...you can have Good, but not Cheap, or you can have Cheap, but not good? ?
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Post  Nickerz Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:40 pm

Thanks for the reply and thanks so much for the links too!  So how long would a typical COX glow plug last? About how many flights?

I think I remember my E-Z Bee kit coming with a glow plug in the engine. If not, it looks like this is the one I need for $10.95 at COX International...  Babe Bee .049 which is cheaper than what I've found on eBay so far.

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Post  FSTP Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:57 am

What's the difference between the EZ Bee Sport and the EZ Bee II ?
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Post  Marleysky Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:41 am

FSTP wrote:What's the difference between the EZ Bee Sport and the EZ Bee II ?


Probably just the order number and the updated decals. The WS and fuse length are the same. Old Bugger
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Help! Stuff I'll Need For Maiden Flight?

Post  Nickerz Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:26 pm

I'm looking for a few things that will start my new COX R/C E-Z Bee with a .049 engine. I'm already planning to buy glow heads/plugs from COX from the link I posted above but I'm hoping I can get help with getting anything else I need to fly my E-Z Bee?  RC Plane

Here is what I think I MIGHT still need (I say might because I don't know if I should use the stuff included in the COX 400 Starting Kit - that and I'd like to keep it in my COX collection)...

1. Fuel
2. Field Starter Battery Box & Glow Clip (if I can't use my own stuff)
3. Servo (2nd Ch. For Sanwa/Cadet Radio)


FUEL:
...even though I already have a NIB COX 400 Starting Kit (see pics below), should I assume the fuel & battery will be too old to use or can I still get by using these? If not, what fuel do I need? Any links would be appreciated or alternative fuels to buy that will work with my engine?


GLOW STARTER & BATTERY:
Next, if the COX 1.5V battery is also too old, I do have a COX glow starter already but I don't have a battery to power it so I was thinking of buying the COX Field Starter Battery Box & Glow Clip here... or can I simply try to connect my own COX glow clip to my field box I use for my regular glow planes and then plug it into the control panel on my Hobbico field box? It has a 12V battery it's powered off of or is this too much power?


SERVO:
The box on my E-Z Bee says I can use a 2nd servo for 2 channels (rudder & elevator). Honestly, what I'd LOVE to do is use everything that came with my kit. I know there are better electrics out there but I'd really like to fly this OEM, back in the 80's style  lol!  And I don't feel I'll get interference where I plan on flying it. Even then, I read this article from Model Aviation ("Is 72 MHz dead?") here... that said these old frequencies are still as good today. I didn't see any original servos that came with the Sanwa/Cadet radio I have. Anyone know where I can pick one up?


Last, is there anything else I need? Like I said, I plan on buying glow heads/plugs from COX International but I wanted to add the items above if I need them and/or anything else you all think I may need.

Thank you!
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Post  davidll1984 Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:06 pm

Ok Nice one u sur u want To fly this ???? Paranoid If it would be me even with the required capacities I will keep the control for a car and Not fly that one Other than with a new receiver and controller for the battry i dont tink its Good ( fuel ok 👌 )with little refresh try To Find two sub c rechargeable battry place négative To négative positive wit positive and Solder wit the glow clip red+ black - Just a batry will do it it use two just To help réserve voltage to last longer I hope you have some piloting skills If not, I strongly advise you to start with a new rtf planeThat you will be able to repair at will Seeing the questions u ask like a beginner I am right?? Keep that plane when you have had more than one successful flight wit Somting Similar As an airplane flight trainer I suggest you eflight wit as3x ultra micro plane to start wit very Good plane Robust and durable more not very expensive you should invest in a good spectrum dx6i radio control Remember that the parts of this model are almost impossible to find take chance if u can afort new one than just bit bether plane keap this on as displays Airplane Flying RC Plane
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Post  Nickerz Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:22 pm

Hey David! Thanks for the reply! I really wanted to do everything OEM (just for nostalgic reasons - lol) but since you confirmed I can only use the fuel (which surprised me) then I think I'll keep the 400 starter kit NIB and just use something else for the glow plug. I do have a field box but know nothing about this lil' 049 engine but I've flown for years, mostly electric but had fuel planes years ago.

By the way, about how many flights would these glow heads/plugs last? Same as any fuel plane or?
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Post  davidll1984 Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:10 pm

With the field box I connect a glow plug that I hold in my hands and I turn the knob to the right voltage But I hate to use this stuff just use m'y nitro rc cars glow plug battry now i use two sub c - - ++ wit Alligator clip
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Post  Nickerz Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:33 pm

Yeah, I think I'm gonna give the batteries a try, so they are C not the bigger D size batteries?
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Post  davidll1984 Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:39 pm

Yes its sub c look like a c its just smaler in size just the normal cars glow plug igniter wil work m'y work its best wit two for longer use if take long To start COX R/C E-Z Bee... 16175810
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Post  getback Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:53 am

servos ,, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sanwa-5PCS-Airtonics-SRM-102Z-Servo-3003-102Z-RC-EP-GP-1-10/131695613354?hash=item1ea9ab95aa:g:nxAAAOSwX~dWj2KR
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