When a safe is not safe..

Honeywell and First Alert may be stencil names for a manufacturer. For example, Craftsman air compressors were stencils made by Devilbliss. My AOL water heater was sold under the Whirlpool label. My Kenmore refrigerator was made by Whirlpool.

Regarding corrosion, sometimes the engineer had little to do with it. A marketing decision to save money and undercut competition was made higher up. After failure 10 years later, they made their money and have moved on to other things.

That's a bit shocking. I would have never thought a 'safe' would be built so poorly.

NEW222 wrote:That's a bit shocking. I would have never thought a 'safe' would be built so poorly.

true that.. I've been wondering if I might be able to drill-out deeper; the hinge-points (2) in the lid, to accept steel pins; with one having a compression-spring behind it. This would allow for depressing that "one pin" to reinstall the lid.. and it would then lock permanently into place.

I detest discarding items that can be repaired.. as long as it's not a huge deal to accomplish.

Roddie you go it right bro....fix that sucker better than it was....and looks like any right sized metal round stock will work...I would use brass very easy fix imo....but I would still be arsed up to have to do it....

fredvon4 wrote:Roddie you go it right bro....fix that sucker better than it was....and looks like any right sized metal round stock will work...I would use brass  very easy fix imo....but I would still be arsed up to have to do it....

Yo.. brother Phred! Thanks for the encouragement. The existing bores (.385") in the base and lid will accept a 3/8" dowel-pin. I can make a stubby pair of them easy enough.. and I have quite the assortment of springs.

Others may ask; why fix? Well.. otherwise my options would be to discard and replace w/new.. or use it "as broken" and hope that the lid doesn't open, should the safe become destabilized during a fire.

Looking at it roddie, if it was sold like that and passed the tests, I would feel that any repair you do to fix it would make it stronger than the way it was originally built, so would not think it would ever open again unintentionally.

I can imagine how disgusted I would be if that happened. On any equipment, but Especially a safe. I gotta believe it's not an engineering mistake. I'm not a mechanical engineer, and have no serious training in metallurgy, but even I knew the answer before I read Fred's accurate analysis. That is just freakin' unforgivable... It's a SAFE for Christ sake. A SAFE, Honeywell! I'd go post in any reviews I could find on that model.
(Would be red faced)Rockin' Rusty

P.S. Could have been a bootleg safe. Sometimes it happens and even authorized distributors are duped. I had a set of  Kumho tires that my Goodyear dealer and I were pretty sure was a bootleg run... 3 years after the purchase. They were the worst sport tires I ever had on my Mazda P5. If I had been an Autocrosser, I would probably have figured it out right away. A lot of dealers got hit at the time when I bought them for about $600 bucks. And it was not only Kumoh brand, but Goodyear and others too.

Roddie, if your safe hinge failed like that, I wonder how well it would have stood up to an actual fire?

Roddie, you might steer whoever you speak to, to this thread.
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Geez... I have to thank all who have viewed this thread.. and especially those who have commented.

It's supposed to be a SAFE.