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Control line stooge
Anyone build there own stooge? Hard to find any help for me, I need some ideas.
crankbndr- Top Poster
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Re: Control line stooge
I wrote this up for Godsey the other day.
Here is my stooge:
It works for all of my planes. For heavier ones I bungee the lawn table to the top of a barstool for added height.
It consists of
*a plastic yard table
*a cheap bath mat with a rubber bottom, about $5 at Big Lots or Wal Mart. It will usually obstruct the elevator. That's okay because before you pull the plane all the way out during launch, the elevator comes clear of the obstruction.
*a bungee cord to secure it
*a strong cord(dacron works fine) and metal shish kabob skewer or tent stake to anchor the contraption so you do not tip it over when you pull the plane free.(look to the left of the table and you can see it)
Fold the mat in half so the rubber bottom is on the inside. Stake the cord and skewer into the ground to secure it. This keeps you from tipping the contraption over when you pull the plane out to launch it.
Some planes need for it to be tilted so the plane is a few degrees nose-up. When I use the barstool I tilt it up with a rolled up towel between the stool seat and the underside of the plastic table. For the light planes like the Jumpin Bean and Li'l Satan, I just launch with it horizontal. They can get airborne without dipping toward the ground.
I use a brick to add pressure behind the trailing edge of the wing to keep the plane from twisting under the engine thrust. It's simple and easy to reposition for different wing shapes. You could use the bungee cord for this but I like the extra weight of the brick for stability. Test the position by attempting to rotate the plane towards the inside of the flight circle. It should resist this. Then hold your lines at the wingtip and see how hard it is to pull it out. If it's too tight move the brick back a bit. You just have to get the feel of it. The rubber holds it very secure, even my slat winged Stuntman with the TD screaming full blast is perfectly secure.
After the plane is suitably positioned, fuel and crank it. Keep the lines in your hand as you walk to your control handle. When you launch the plane, hold the handle and remove the slack. Take two or three steps backward as you pull it free(don't yank it) and the stooge will be out of the circle. Once the plane is part way out you will have elevator control. Now you're flying. Sometimes it's a little wobbly, just don't stall it with full up. I usually have full up for the first instant, just to get the nose elevated, then cut back a tad and she'll fly away and off you go.
All this must be done with a video camera so you can prove it when you have a good day. And to entertain us.
The more you use it, the more you will trust it.
Also, when flying alone, make sure you have a first aid kit and a cell phone.
Hope this helps,
Rusty
Here is my stooge:
It works for all of my planes. For heavier ones I bungee the lawn table to the top of a barstool for added height.
It consists of
*a plastic yard table
*a cheap bath mat with a rubber bottom, about $5 at Big Lots or Wal Mart. It will usually obstruct the elevator. That's okay because before you pull the plane all the way out during launch, the elevator comes clear of the obstruction.
*a bungee cord to secure it
*a strong cord(dacron works fine) and metal shish kabob skewer or tent stake to anchor the contraption so you do not tip it over when you pull the plane free.(look to the left of the table and you can see it)
Fold the mat in half so the rubber bottom is on the inside. Stake the cord and skewer into the ground to secure it. This keeps you from tipping the contraption over when you pull the plane out to launch it.
Some planes need for it to be tilted so the plane is a few degrees nose-up. When I use the barstool I tilt it up with a rolled up towel between the stool seat and the underside of the plastic table. For the light planes like the Jumpin Bean and Li'l Satan, I just launch with it horizontal. They can get airborne without dipping toward the ground.
I use a brick to add pressure behind the trailing edge of the wing to keep the plane from twisting under the engine thrust. It's simple and easy to reposition for different wing shapes. You could use the bungee cord for this but I like the extra weight of the brick for stability. Test the position by attempting to rotate the plane towards the inside of the flight circle. It should resist this. Then hold your lines at the wingtip and see how hard it is to pull it out. If it's too tight move the brick back a bit. You just have to get the feel of it. The rubber holds it very secure, even my slat winged Stuntman with the TD screaming full blast is perfectly secure.
After the plane is suitably positioned, fuel and crank it. Keep the lines in your hand as you walk to your control handle. When you launch the plane, hold the handle and remove the slack. Take two or three steps backward as you pull it free(don't yank it) and the stooge will be out of the circle. Once the plane is part way out you will have elevator control. Now you're flying. Sometimes it's a little wobbly, just don't stall it with full up. I usually have full up for the first instant, just to get the nose elevated, then cut back a tad and she'll fly away and off you go.
All this must be done with a video camera so you can prove it when you have a good day. And to entertain us.
The more you use it, the more you will trust it.
Also, when flying alone, make sure you have a first aid kit and a cell phone.
Hope this helps,
Rusty
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Re: Control line stooge
What's the technical specification for the brick?
Ivanhoe- Diamond Member
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Re: Control line stooge
Heavy enough so you wouldn't want to drop it on your foot... or your plane!Ivanhoe wrote:What's the technical specification for the brick?
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Re: Control line stooge
It occurs to me that the rubber grip may damage a traditional silkspan covering. You'll have to judge that because I'm a new fangled Ultracoater and I don't know anything about the other coverings. It doesn't even scratch the new stuff, even better if it has a thin residual film of castor on it. If you're concerned about damage to more fragile coverings you might want to choose a mat with a fairly soft nap and use that side instead of the rubber. That was my idea when I bought it, but the top side was a bit rough so I just tried the rubber side as the grip and liked the way it worked. The plane wing is held tightly, but it pulls out with what feels like about a pound of pull. That way it won't damage the control horn mount.
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Re: Control line stooge
Man that sure is an innovative control line plane launching contraption. Your planes must be well powered, if I had an underpowered plane I could raise the legs.
If I do try your launching device will surely tape it and it will be entertaining. Do you have any tape of the device in action?
Thanks Doug
If I do try your launching device will surely tape it and it will be entertaining. Do you have any tape of the device in action?
Thanks Doug
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Re: Control line stooge
AhHA! You are the one I need to thank!
I use an old towel, and for planes like my Lil Wizard I use some thin insulboard to pad the wing up and protect the towel and wing projections from each other. My jumping bean does not need the added padding.
I also am unit the frame of an ancient trash compactor as my table, and vise grip welding clamps to secure things to a piece of plywood, and the plywood to the heavy steel table...and a brick on the wing. I can easily adjust the angle of launch using brick under the end of the board, a lil wizard needs some "up" to start with or it eats sod.
Phil
I use an old towel, and for planes like my Lil Wizard I use some thin insulboard to pad the wing up and protect the towel and wing projections from each other. My jumping bean does not need the added padding.
I also am unit the frame of an ancient trash compactor as my table, and vise grip welding clamps to secure things to a piece of plywood, and the plywood to the heavy steel table...and a brick on the wing. I can easily adjust the angle of launch using brick under the end of the board, a lil wizard needs some "up" to start with or it eats sod.
Phil
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Re: Control line stooge
My favorite stooge(sorry).
Bob
Bob
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Re: Control line stooge
Here is one I built. Works well with planes with landing gear such as the wizard.
Very simple to build. I can take a better pic if needed.
Click on the link if the pic is too big
https://i.imgur.com/EpE31.jpg
Very simple to build. I can take a better pic if needed.
Click on the link if the pic is too big
https://i.imgur.com/EpE31.jpg
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Re: Control line stooge
Here's my version, similar to Ron's, made from pegboard. It works well with planes that need a take-off roll to get in the air...such as my plastic RTF's and larger stunt models.
It uses an R/C nose-gear steering block (had several laying around) and pin with thick white nylon cord for easy visibility if used in grass. I unroll just enough cord to reach the handle, then step back after launch to keep it from lassoing my ankles! I use strips of wood as "side chocks" to keep the plane aligned on the board as I head out to the handle.
Cheap wire tent stakes anchor the peg board in place when flying larger planes, and I occasionally also use a sheet of insulating foam to extend my "runway" on grass. The stakes also work when flying my planes on the concrete airport ramp...I just align the pegboard with some handy cracks in the concrete...OR park the van with one of it's tires pinching the board.
Since it seems that I'm always packing all of this stuff somewhere, the pegboard also serves double duty in securing the planes in the back of the van. I CA the "hook" side of some vecro strips to the bottom of the board, plop it on the carpet of the van's cargo box, and nothin' goes nowhere!
Lately, I've started using C-clamps to lock the pegboard to the top of my adjustable shooting table. This puts everything up at a comfortable "work-height" (on an even keel with my field box) for the inevitable mechanical messing around and adjusting...not to mention allowing a safe harbor for my can of soda).
It uses an R/C nose-gear steering block (had several laying around) and pin with thick white nylon cord for easy visibility if used in grass. I unroll just enough cord to reach the handle, then step back after launch to keep it from lassoing my ankles! I use strips of wood as "side chocks" to keep the plane aligned on the board as I head out to the handle.
Cheap wire tent stakes anchor the peg board in place when flying larger planes, and I occasionally also use a sheet of insulating foam to extend my "runway" on grass. The stakes also work when flying my planes on the concrete airport ramp...I just align the pegboard with some handy cracks in the concrete...OR park the van with one of it's tires pinching the board.
Since it seems that I'm always packing all of this stuff somewhere, the pegboard also serves double duty in securing the planes in the back of the van. I CA the "hook" side of some vecro strips to the bottom of the board, plop it on the carpet of the van's cargo box, and nothin' goes nowhere!
Lately, I've started using C-clamps to lock the pegboard to the top of my adjustable shooting table. This puts everything up at a comfortable "work-height" (on an even keel with my field box) for the inevitable mechanical messing around and adjusting...not to mention allowing a safe harbor for my can of soda).
Last edited by Kim on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:52 am; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Control line stooge
My "stooge" is usally a neighborhood kid attracted to what I'm doing with my "toy" airplane.
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Re: Control line stooge
SuperDave wrote:My "stooge" is usally a neighborhood kid attracted to what I'm doing with my "toy" airplane.
I keep trying to convince my wife...I even want her to try flying since our daughter who is 4 is already flying with me. I think she read "stooge" over my shoulder at some point.
Kim, that is a sweet idea with the pegboard. I have been stumped since I fly over grass, currently exclusively.
Phil
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Re: Control line stooge
Phil:
If you thought up a less condescending title like: Flight Manager or Flight Engineer you wife might jump at the opportunity to assist you especially if you bought her a jump suit with her name and title on it and covered with airplane logos.
Just a thought mind you.
If you thought up a less condescending title like: Flight Manager or Flight Engineer you wife might jump at the opportunity to assist you especially if you bought her a jump suit with her name and title on it and covered with airplane logos.
Just a thought mind you.
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Re: Control line stooge
Ha! In one of my Stuntman23 Tube videos, my wife is heard saying, "Who you callin' a stooge?"
I usually use the term "Pit Crew.'
I usually use the term "Pit Crew.'
Hey I need a pilot suit like that! Still waiting for my yaller hard hat with the Bee on the front of it.SuperDave wrote:...especially if you bought her a jump suit with her name and title on it and covered with airplane logos...
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Re: Control line stooge
Rusty:
The "yaller" hard hat has been delayed because I can't find one large enough to accomodate my large "dome". "One size fits all". HA!
BTW, "real life" drome pilots wear flight suits so you can too! Check at a military surplus outlet
The "yaller" hard hat has been delayed because I can't find one large enough to accomodate my large "dome". "One size fits all". HA!
BTW, "real life" drome pilots wear flight suits so you can too! Check at a military surplus outlet
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Re: Control line stooge
OR...you could go brand-new manufacture:
http://www.flightsuits.com/
http://www.flightsuits.com/
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Re: Control line stooge
This is my setup. If you look closely you'll notice the milk crate is zip tied to the expanded metal drain cover. Works great as long as tue plane isn't under powered.
https://i.imgur.com/TAtPn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eRI8j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XTmZH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TAtPn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eRI8j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XTmZH.jpg
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Wheelbarrow Launcher for planes with no landing gear.
You can let the plane slide off the handles of a wheelbarrow....but you'll still need to make a way to keep the model centered on the wheelbarrow handles.
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