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Post  WingingIt74 Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:37 pm

I've replaced:
• Reed
• Pickup tube/spring
• tank gasket
• crank case gasket

I can prime it to get it running but it won't pull fuel out of the tank... I'm stumped...
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Post  Admin Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:41 pm

WingingIt74 wrote:I've replaced:
• Reed
• Pickup tube/spring
• tank gasket
• crank case gasket

I can prime it to get it running but it won't pull fuel out of the tank... I'm stumped...

STILL CANT GET IT RUNNING???????? Go to the chat...
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Post  Mudhen Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:16 pm

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Post  WingingIt74 Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:38 pm

fuel pickup on the tank back plate was clogged. Used a 3/64" drill bit to clean it out. Runs now, will post video later tonight. I'm completely out of fuel now. Should of picked some up at the hobby shop today.

I'm a happy camper Smile

Thanks Admin for letting me bounce ideas off of you in the ChatBox.
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Post  WingingIt74 Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:59 pm

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Post  nitroairplane Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:45 am

Very happy you got here going.
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Post  PV Pilot Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:53 am

Sounds like it was a victim of the minscule green goo.

Whenever I pick up a ebay unit or a hand-me-down, I always start right at the needle area and clean forward. Magnifiers or jewelers hood helps a bunch.

There is a reason that on some of the older Cox packaging you see a image of a Cox engineer using a Binocular Microscope,, Wink

Always a good feeling when they fire off finally,, congrats!!
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Post  crankbndr Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:40 am

I have good results soaking and flushing with fuel, force fuel through the backplate with a syringe two or three times. I use a white cup to hold the fuel, you can see the crud in the cup.
A lot of crud comes out of those backplates.
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Post  Cribbs74 Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:45 pm

Mudhen wrote:It's possible the reed is not sealing, the tank is not sealing, needle valve/fuel nipple is clogged, or the needle valve is dirty or bent.
~Reed: Insert the reed with the horizontal bar on the circlip facing out. Insert the reed housing in your mouth - yes, you read that correctly- and apply gentle pressure against the reed. It should seal. If it whistles, or air leaks, that face of the reed which seats against the inlet should be cleaned and polished. Also, lightly polish the reed seat. Insert the reed again to see if it seals. With the reed inserted, gently shake the tank. The reed should be loose. If not - set a piece of 400 grit sand paper on a flat level surface. Place the retainer against the surface with the horizontal portion of the clip facing up. Gently pull the clip along the sand paper, rotate 180 degrees and do it again, rotate it 90 degrees and do it again, rotate it another 180 degrees and do it again. The object is to create a even, flat surface. But you don't want to remove so much metal that it becomes useless. Wash it and reinstall. If the reed is not loose, sand it again.
~Tank not sealing: Clean the knife edge seals of both tank halves with ultra fine steel wool (#XXXX). Then, pour Novus #3 into the tank front seal. Gently hold the two halves of the tank together and rotate back and forth. After a few turns, it should feel smooth and have an even seal around the circumference of the knive edges. Wash the parts.
~Needle valve fuel nipple clogged: First - thoroughly clean the tank back with rubbing alcohol and a tooth brush. Remove as much gunk as possible. Tear a small piece of super fine steel wool and roll it between your fingers then "thread" it into the needle valve opening. Thread it all the way down, then continue to turn it in the same direction as the threads, (clockwise.) This will clean the threads and the seat. Then - using .008 wire, (guitar string) insert the wire into the needle valve hole until you can see it just penetrating the venturi hole in the center of the fuel tank-back. Move it in and out to make sure the hole is clean. Then insert the wire into the fuel pick-up nipple. It should penetrate all the way through to the needle valve opening. After this, roll a small piece of steel wool between your fingers then "roll" it into the nipple. Continue to roll it until it is smooth. Also, use the steel wool to clean the outer surface of the nipple. Then blast it with compy air. Also blast the needle valve opening with compy air, or you can flush it out under running water. If you do flush it out, though, still blast it with compy air to make sure excess steel wool is removed and that the various openings are clean.
~Needle valve: Inspect the tip to make sure it is straight and thoroughly clean the needle to make sure that both the threads and tip are clean.
If this doesn't work, let me know.
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Excellent post Mud!

Very informative and thorough. That deserves a rep point or two......
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Post  Admin Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:52 am

cribbs74 wrote:
Mudhen wrote:It's possible the reed is not sealing, the tank is not sealing, needle valve/fuel nipple is clogged, or the needle valve is dirty or bent.
~Reed: Insert the reed with the horizontal bar on the circlip facing out. Insert the reed housing in your mouth - yes, you read that correctly- and apply gentle pressure against the reed. It should seal. If it whistles, or air leaks, that face of the reed which seats against the inlet should be cleaned and polished. Also, lightly polish the reed seat. Insert the reed again to see if it seals. With the reed inserted, gently shake the tank. The reed should be loose. If not - set a piece of 400 grit sand paper on a flat level surface. Place the retainer against the surface with the horizontal portion of the clip facing up. Gently pull the clip along the sand paper, rotate 180 degrees and do it again, rotate it 90 degrees and do it again, rotate it another 180 degrees and do it again. The object is to create a even, flat surface. But you don't want to remove so much metal that it becomes useless. Wash it and reinstall. If the reed is not loose, sand it again.
~Tank not sealing: Clean the knife edge seals of both tank halves with ultra fine steel wool (#XXXX). Then, pour Novus #3 into the tank front seal. Gently hold the two halves of the tank together and rotate back and forth. After a few turns, it should feel smooth and have an even seal around the circumference of the knive edges. Wash the parts.
~Needle valve fuel nipple clogged: First - thoroughly clean the tank back with rubbing alcohol and a tooth brush. Remove as much gunk as possible. Tear a small piece of super fine steel wool and roll it between your fingers then "thread" it into the needle valve opening. Thread it all the way down, then continue to turn it in the same direction as the threads, (clockwise.) This will clean the threads and the seat. Then - using .008 wire, (guitar string) insert the wire into the needle valve hole until you can see it just penetrating the venturi hole in the center of the fuel tank-back. Move it in and out to make sure the hole is clean. Then insert the wire into the fuel pick-up nipple. It should penetrate all the way through to the needle valve opening. After this, roll a small piece of steel wool between your fingers then "roll" it into the nipple. Continue to roll it until it is smooth. Also, use the steel wool to clean the outer surface of the nipple. Then blast it with compy air. Also blast the needle valve opening with compy air, or you can flush it out under running water. If you do flush it out, though, still blast it with compy air to make sure excess steel wool is removed and that the various openings are clean.
~Needle valve: Inspect the tip to make sure it is straight and thoroughly clean the needle to make sure that both the threads and tip are clean.
If this doesn't work, let me know.
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Excellent post Mud!

Very informative and thorough. That deserves a rep point or two......

Yes, great information! Voted Up!
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