Re: Tach Race 2015 Final Wrap-Up

getback Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:34 pm

A Men Mark!

Kim Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:33 am

Awright Folks, Here We Go:

Mark and I have been knocking this back and forth for some time, trying to get a fair set of rules for this year's Tach Race. The biggest obstacle has been composing reasonable rules for the third category that was originally called "Novice".

On this go-around, we have decided to narrow it to Babe Bees and Golden Bees, and call it the "Babe Bee Vintage Class". This will allow a venue for guys who'd like to see their stock Bee's compete against others without modifying the classic little engines.

The sure start engines presented so many variables as to make it impossible to lay down rules to give a fair race, at least this time. It can be revisited in the next Tach Race, and I hope members will see and understand our dilemma.

We've also re-worked the other classes for more WOW effect, and hope this is good with the majority. Please do your best to make these as "Redneck-Friendly" as possible so that I'll have a reasonable chance of getting them started. I'll be practicing my fuel bladder technique over the coming weeks, and should be competent to run any of those fuel systems if they're entered.

A BIG thanks to Mark for rewording and spotting mistakes in the original set of rules, which we e-mailed back and forth between us a bunch of times over the past few days. Even though I've read and re-read this thing about a dozen times, there MAY still be mistakes here and there, and I will appreciate anyone letting me know about them.

As each engine arrives, it will photographed next to it's return mailing label. This has worked for me in the past races as far as keeping track of engines and their owners. I'll also post a note here, so that participants know they made it.

As always before, please let me know of any questions, and between Mark and myself, we ought to be able to answer them fairly quickly.

Tach Race 2015

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UNLIMITED

Any combination of Cox parts, reed or rear rotor.
Any porting, grinding, chopping, you think will work.
Any head/glow plug or glowhead, RR-1 or Rear rotor type of rear induction systems are fine.
NO front induction TD/Medallion crank/crankcase. NO Cyclon, VA, & Norvel stock or modified to reed induction. Intent is that these be Cox-based engines like the Black Widow, Sure-Start, Space Hopper, RR-1, Space Hopper, etc.

Fuel will be Sig 35%
Prop will be an APC 4.75x4
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MOUSE 1

Any AMA legal Cox rear reed, with tank. Except no Cyclon conversion.
See AMA rules for more info.

Fuel will be Sig 35%
Prop will be an APC 4.75x4

AMA Class Mouse Racing 101:

The engine part is really simple. There are ONLY three criteria.

1. The engine maximum displacement must not be larger than .0504 cubic inches.

2. The engine MUST use a reed valve. (This means that 99% of competitors use a Cox product [All...in our Tach Race's case] and the other 1% machine or make their own type of reed induction system)
***The Cox RR-1 Rear Disc induction engine is therefore not allowed.

3. The engine MUST draw it's fuel from an attached, integral tank. (This means that 99% of competitors use a Cox Black Widow tanks, and the other 1% machine or make their own integral tank. Separate tanks are not allowed.

Engine modifications are unlimited. You can grind away, chrome plate, port, polish, & modify to your heart's content.

And that's IT! How much simpler can it get?
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TEE DEE CLASS

.049 or .051
Rules same as Unlimited.
Included fuel systems allowed.

Prop: APC 4.75x4
Fuel: Sig 35%
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BABE BEE VINTAGE CLASS

1. Any Babe Bee or Golden Bee with single intake port cylinder and open exhaust ports. (no aftermarket parts)
2. No modifying of any parts other than replacement of like parts. (no, machining, grinding, filing, lightening, etc.)
3. Reeds- any factory type replacement. (Mylar reeds have been used since 1980)
4. Stock factory heads, no high compression heads, any number of head gaskets
5. *Any winning engine will be Subject to inspection by Contest Director.

*Please note: Cox International sells original type glowheads, they also sells high compression glowheads that look the same...see #4)

Contest Fuel will be the new Cox Super Power Fuel, if available...if not, we'll go with 20% Sig.
Prop: We're going to use a 5x4 'retro prop' from Cox International: http://coxengines.ca/cox-.049-propeller-5-x-4.html
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.020 UNLIMITED

Same as the 'Big Boys' Unlimited rules listed above.
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.020 PEE WEE

Un-modified Pee Wee .020's
1. Any Stock Pee Wee .020
2. No modifying of any parts other than replacement of like parts. (no, machining, grinding, filing, lightening, etc.)
3. Reeds- any factory type replacement.
4. Stock factory heads, no high compression heads, any number of head gaskets
5. *Any winning engine will be Subject to inspection by Contest Director.
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Both Classes:
Fuel: 35% Sig
Prop: Cox .020 Racing Propeller 4 x 2.5
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Contestants will send engines (Limit one engine per class) in a returnable box with return label filled out (no priority mail) plus adequate funds to cover return shipping and insurance if desired.

Engines can be sent to either of these two addresses:

Kim Stricker
300 C.R. 326
Jackson, Missouri 63755

Kim Stricker
P.O. Box 6
Jackson, Missouri 63755

Cell: 573-576-5734

Mark Boesen Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:14 pm

Looks good Kim!

getback Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:06 pm

Thanks For the Hard Work Kim and Mark , got my print out . Eric Small Cox Logo

**Cribbs74** Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:14 pm

Shoot Kim,

Sorry for the reply delay. Looks good, I am very happy with the rules!

Kim Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:29 am

Thank you guys!

It's a considerable load off my mind just to have the rules posted, with what LOOKS like pretty clear terms.

I am normally pretty good at record-keeping and such, but for whatever reason the Tach Race seems to suffer a bit.

I finally found some clarification (THANK YOU PAUL !!!) of the Mouse Class Rules that may help guys like me who MUST have things in layman terms.

This is from Paul Gibeault, and it greatly helped me get a working understanding of the Mouse Class:

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AMA Class Mouse Racing 101:

The engine part is really simple. There are ONLY three criteria.

1. The engine maximum displacement must not be larger than .0504 cubic inches.

2. The engine MUST use a reed valve. (This means that 99% of competitors use a Cox product [All...in our Tach Race's case] and the other 1% machine or make their own type of reed induction system)
***The Cox RR-1 Rear Disc induction engine is therefore not allowed.

3. The engine MUST draw it's fuel from an attached, integral tank. (This means that 99% of competitors use a Cox Black Widow tanks, and the other 1% machine or make their own integral tank. Separate tanks are not allowed.

Engine modifications are unlimited. You can grind away, chrome plate, port, polish, & modify to your heart's content.

And that's IT! How much simpler can it get?

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Thank you again, Paul !

Paulgibeault Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:30 pm

Hi Kim & Mark,

Everything looks quite fine. Good job!

" GENTLEMEN, PREPARE (for Kim) TO START YOUR ENGINES!! "

Cheers, Paul

Kim Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:28 pm

Guys!

Kruzn Dave has offered to sponsor the fuel for this year's Tach Race, and I've accepted.

I'll be receiving 25% and 35% Cox Super Fuel (reformulated with castor) for the race in January. Several tests of the new formula have been run by C.E.F. members, with no adverse effects on their engines, so I think it's only proper to take Dave up on his generous offer.

This will be known-fresh fuel for the race, so we ought to have numbers we never saw before !!

Hope this is acceptable to everyone, and kudos to the positive attitude of Dave and Hobbico for giving us another source of good fuel !

Kim

Oldenginerod Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:20 pm

Thanks for the fuel Dave. Thumbs Up

Any chance this stuff might get marketed in Australia? Warm

Kim Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:30 am

Just a Reminder/Bump...

Kim Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:08 pm

Hey Guys,

If possible, I'd like to get a general idea of the number of entries in each class for Tach Race 2015. I'm also working with Bernie and Matt, and need to give them an idea of this year's participation so we can get an idea of the break-down of prizes.

Thanks

dckrsn Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:29 pm

I'm good for at least one, Kim.
Probably unlimited.
Bob

**RknRusty** Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:08 pm

I'll be sending an Unlimited and possibly a Mouse-1.

**Cribbs74** Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:22 pm

Kinda torn.

I have been biting off more than I can chew lately.

Sign me up for unlimited bee and TD. If I can do another then I will let you know.

Ron

Mark Boesen Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:01 pm

I'm in for unlimited, mouse, Tee Dee and stock stocker babe bee.

P-40 Warhawk Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:20 pm

I'll do unlimited,mouse 1,vintage and pee wee .020

Paulgibeault Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:10 am

I have decided to enter my 'Vintage Babe Bee' in the Unlimited Class this time.

Cheers, Paul

getback Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:47 am

Kim, I am in for Unlimited / TEE DEE / Babe Bee vintage Class / .020 PEE WEE / Thanks for the Bump ! Eric Rudolph

Kim Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:52 am

Thanks guys, Got'm Logged!

Please keep checking in if you're gonna race!

crankbndr Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:43 am

I'll be sending a Mouse, Unlimited and a TD.

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Kim Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:49 am

Just another Bump back to the top.

Got to get Matt and Bernie a list of participants in the up-coming Tach Race.

microflitedude Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:12 pm

I will be entering a TD and a Stock PeeWee.

When is the best time to send the engines?

Kim Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:39 pm

microflitedude wrote:I will be entering a TD and a Stock PeeWee.

When is the best time to send the engines?

Thanks Matt! Just about anytime (probably on the other side of the holidays, but it's up to you) between now and the Race. I've got no traveling plans before the Race, so I can be home to wait for them. If possible, please shoot me a note to let me know when it's on it's way.

Thanks Again!

getback Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:00 am

I got a stupid question well I am having one of those days anyway sooooo If I ship my engines to you with a return prepaid label inside will that work? Or is shipping hi'er there than here (told you up front S day) Laughing

Eric says THANKS

Kim Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:35 am

I'd think that it would be the same both ways, but if it is a bit more getting it back to you, that's no problem...I'll cover it and get back to you if it's worth messing with.

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