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Post  Cox International Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:36 pm

I guess this seller has not figured out yet that almost all the Cox manuals he is offering to sell as copies are available as free downloads from us  lol! 

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/m.html?_odkw=&item=251450843548&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&hash=item3a8ba3619c&_ssn=aeropostale-sales&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcox&_nkw=cox&_sacat=0&_from=R40
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Post  Cribbs74 Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:13 pm

He knows, heck that's probably where he got them!

My guess he is banking on the fact that others don't know.

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Post  Admin Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:21 pm

Some people... No

I thought about going through and watermarking every document but that still won't stop them. I noticed a few manuals I had on my site listed on eBay in the past (matched creases and marks) so I pulled most off my site and put them on here where you must join and be logged in to view. Still won't stop them but gives them another hoop to jump through to get them.

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Post  Mark Boesen Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:13 pm

There's a couple I recognize from my site, or I should say I recognize a couple with "water marks" that I have posted on the site that came from other sources.
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Post  roddie Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:57 pm

I don't think it's right to make money off any instruction manual PERIOD... this includes drawings/plans.

edit: this would exclude "one-off" engineering drawings that were designed specifically for a customer.
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Post  Cox International Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:36 pm

roddie wrote:I don't think it's right to make money off any instruction manual PERIOD... this includes drawings/plans.

edit: this would exclude "one-off" engineering drawings that were designed specifically for a customer.

Well, we also sell a manual:

http://coxengines.ca/cox-.049-operating-manual.html

but there is a cost to us to have it reproduced on two-sided ledger-size paper. By the same token it's also available as a free download but still amazing how many we sell as hard-copies every year.
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Post  roddie Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:28 am

Cox International wrote:
roddie wrote:I don't think it's right to make money off any instruction manual PERIOD... this includes drawings/plans.

edit: this would exclude "one-off" engineering drawings that were designed specifically for a customer.

Well, we also sell a manual:

http://coxengines.ca/cox-.049-operating-manual.html

but there is a cost to us to have it reproduced on two-sided ledger-size paper. By the same token it's also available as a free download but still amazing how many we sell as hard-copies every year.

Bernie, being a Cox "dealer".. and offering an original style/size document to a collector... is much different than these bootleggers out there, who's only expense is printer ink.
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Post  Motra Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:20 pm

I've seen this a lot with other products. Manufacturers offer all their product support manuals free and some jackass burns them all to disc and sells them. I scanned an old parts manual and offered it for free and later saw someone selling it on eBay. (Hmmm, maybe that makes me the jackass.)
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Post  pkrankow Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:18 pm

roddie wrote:I don't think it's right to make money off any instruction manual PERIOD... this includes drawings/plans.

edit: this would exclude "one-off" engineering drawings that were designed specifically for a customer.

When I worked retail (a mere decade ago) I ordered a manual for a discontinued radar unit for a boat. The special order was $100 for what ended up as 50 pages of photocopies, 2 pages per copy, out of the manual at the manufacturer. (nobody was impressed)

I *LOVE* PDF files that are available now.

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