A hard RC lesson to learn.

Then this thing will never die!




I have this thing almost ready to fly again. I have been contemplating a new fuse which is why I haven't flown it since bringing it here from my parents.

I think I'll set the spoilers up proper-like, there is a servo pocket covered over on the underside.

Phil

Hey DJ
I never got past the 'warmliner' stage of gliding so my 'knowledge' is confined to one model
the Multiplex Blizzard or Buzzard as my pals christened it.
It had a folding prop and this summat you might consider, a fan built into the spinner to cool the motor
which was skweeeezed into the nosed.
Altho
Looking at your model Ida thought a 10 buck HobbyKing motor nailed to the pod with a 20 amp esc
would be more than sufficient and save you having to chop the front of what looks to be a very
nice plane.

 

batjac wrote:
Duke, I'll dig out my kit and scan the plans tomorrow.
The Darkly Mark

Duke, I dug the Electra kit out of the closet. The wood is all there, but the plans are missing. I have no clue where I must have moved them. Sorry. Your best be would be to download those Outerzone plans for the Gentle Lady, print out the nose, and then draw your motor on the plans and build to that. I'm sure there were plenty of pictures in the RCG forum of how other guys made their noses.

The Embarrassed Mark

Yo Duke,

Does this help at all? I can scan and post the rest if this is what you need. I dug the Electra Kit out of my storage shed. A bud of mine gave it to me ten years ago and I THINK it's mostly complete. He DID build the tail feathers and they look pretty good. It's got a big, honk'n electric motor that is apparently controlled by a servo bumping a toggle switch.

Let me know if more scans will help, and I can also take the plan sheet to Staples to make you a copy, or send the whole mess to you if you think it's worth it.

The Waking Kim

Kim wrote:Yo Duke,

Does this help at all?  It's got a big, honk'n electric motor that is apparently controlled by a servo bumping a toggle switch.

The Waking Kim

Yeah, they had a heavy 550 sized can motor on 'em.  Goldberg called it a "Turbo 550" motor.  A simple toggle switch turned it on and off.  You could either use a servo for the switch, or just switch it on and let it go (the way I first went).  Later, I used a "push on-push off" switch, and arranged it so that a full down elevator command would toggle the motor on and off. And that 20 amp fuse in the picture was totally useless. The Tamiya connecter that the motor had on it was horrible. The fit was loose and gave a high resistance connection. Mine overheated, and instead of the fuse blowing, the wire melted apart. When it got on the ground and I opened it up to take out the battery, I was surprised that it didn't catch the plane on fire. Modern connectors, a good motor, and a good speed controller will do wonders compared to the primitive on-off control from back then, not to mention scads more power.

The Thoroughly Modern Mark

Yeah, that's it...complete with wires, switch and fuse.  The sucker's fairly dangerous to handle even WITHOUT power, as it grabbed a bunch of loose exacto blades and T-Pins as I dragged it from the box.  My bud Jerry isn't one to trouble himself much with sorting gear...

Wakes a boy up....

Love the "Turbo" tag...seems in the 80's that EVERYTHING was "Turbo"-This or That!

Un-lacerated Kim

Kim and Mark-Thanks for all your help. That's enough to get me started bobbing the nose.

John-I thought of just putting a small motor on the power pod, but I want to enter ALES contests with some friends. I need enough motor to get my to 200meters in 30 seconds. In ALES we get 30 Seconds of motor run or 200 Meters, you want to hit max elev./alt. and 30 sec.

I cut the nose and installed the firewall last night.

Duke -

You likely already have your motor, ESC, prop and battery combination already in mind, but if not, here's a possible combination that could work for you.  Since you're looking for performance and not necessarily duration on your battery, this combo is a bit heavier on current consumption.  The components listed are from Heads Up Hobby, but a similar combo would be available from other vendors.  I've used Heads Up a lot and have been quite pleased with their service, plus they have a $2.00 flat rate shipping.

9x5 folding blades  You can run more prop with the motor, but your current consumption goes up a bit, however, thrust cranks up too.

Spinners

PowerUp 450 SloFly

This motor will give you about 26 oz. of thrust at 10A with a 9050, more if you move up your prop size.  26 oz. should give you almost vertical performance.

HURC 22A ESC

I usually buy my batteries from the HobbyKing USA warehouse.  I have had pretty good luck with Zippy brands.  Since it sounds like you're going to power to altitude, then glide, you can run a slightly smaller 3S batt with a good continuous discharge rate, but the lower capacity rating will lighten it up a bit.

Thanks Andrew. I do have my motor, $35 swap meet find. I just called the local hobby shop to have them hold the spinner for pick up tomorrow. Props come later. I like to use the stuff the club is requesting for safety (spinner and props) and I like supporting my LHS. The owner is a great guy, he gave me this plane. I'll get my batteries from Hobby King though.

Agree with Andrew re Batt. Zippy fine(avoid yellow compacts), blue Turnigy fine(avoid Nano tec unless you're going for A spec) and go for as High 'C rating' as you can. More power, less strain on Battery.
If you can stretch to it, go 'made in US' with Thunder Power batt.
My best battery bar none is a small TP 1800 3s 65c (comparatively expensive) it's like having
plane connected to the National Grid, takes much more abuse than the HK versions and if it should
ever 'go South' has the only proper Warranty in the game.
Don't forget to check out,-

http://www.ecalc.ch/motorcalc.htm?ecalc&lang=en

 

Rusty-That was a crazy crash. A lot of money down in flames.

Well, thought I'd give an update on the Gentle Lady. I cut off the nose and installed a 450 electric motor, put on a new wing, and took it to the RC field. I grabbed a friend to help trim and set up the new 2.4 system and had a good first flight. After that I took a short break to charge the battery and talk to the friends.

The second flight didn't go very well. I crashed on take off. Right in front of everyone.            

So I decided to take all the electrics out of the Gentle Lady and bought the foam cores for the Parkzone Radian. Everything went in pretty well, not to much work. I took it out to the RC field yesterday and today both. I was able to get in one flight yesterday and two short flights today. It was pretty windy today, but things went well for me this weekend. The plane is still in one piece.       

Am I the only one in here that is a HAM?   


Im sorry to hear about your bent bird, glad to hear she is back up and flying. Let me know if you need additional parts, I have a Radion ( the 4 ch one) that the fuselage is wasted, but wings, and electronics still good to go. Im pretty sure that if you really want to get crazy I have a set of plans for the electra, and a spare cowl NIB for one.

I sure would love to have a grid to the location of those towers. I fly 72mhz around some pretty hardcore Ham stations ( mine) and dont have issue. It would be fun for me to look up who owns it, and what they are really running.

MrGoodwreck wrote:Am I the only one in here that is a HAM?   


Im sorry to hear about your bent bird, glad to hear she is back up and flying. Let me know if you need additional parts, I have a Radion ( the 4 ch one) that the fuselage is wasted, but wings, and electronics still good to go. Im pretty sure that if you really want to get crazy I have a set of plans for the electra, and a spare cowl NIB for one.

I sure would love to have a grid to the location of those towers. I fly 72mhz around some pretty hardcore Ham stations ( mine) and dont have issue. It would be fun for me to look up who owns it, and what they are really running.

I guess I don't really know if they are HAM or other radio equipment. They look like the one my uncle has, he's been in HAM as long as I've know him. He has a whole room full of equipment and relays around the world.

The Gentle Lady is on hold until I learn to fly better. I'd love to fix it backup with the Cox power pod on it again. Do you want to sell the Radian wing and parts?