Re: CEF speed contest Design Discussions

RK Flyer Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:04 pm

I posted some pictures of the Stilleto on Nov. 16th. under "What is it?" when I started work on the Fuse while I was getting parts for the drive train.

RK Flyer

navion34 Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:05 pm

OVERLORD wrote:
navion34 wrote:Thanks Lieven, I will call them,

Don't bother Rémy, I was there yesterday to pick Oracover for the Satan and the smallest prop they have for IC engines is the grey Graupner prop 5x2.

Lieven

Ok, I will give an order over the Atlantic ocean...

batjac Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:56 am

Well, my 1/6oz. tank came in the mail, so I was able to finish locating and installing everything. Build is pretty much done. I just need to fill in the dings and smooth everything out, then paint. From the driver's side, it looks pretty clean:
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speed - CEF speed contest Design Discussions - Page 14 DSCN0910_zps05dae5e4

I tried to make it relatively clean from head on:
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You can see all the messy bits from this side:
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And looking down on it:
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The Dinged Up Mark

OVERLORD Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:46 am

Your plane looks great Mark

roddie Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:44 am

Mark, Your model looks fantastic from all angles! Thumbs Up

Roddie

**RknRusty** Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:27 am

Yes it does. This is getting scary, I hope my simple scrap heap can keep up.

duke.johnson Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:40 am

Looks great!

pkrankow Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:01 pm

Tested the pain pens today. They washed right off like the fingernail polish.

I guess I'll have to spray some paint into a jar, so I can use a brush for the trim.

Phil

JPvelo Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:54 pm

I'm trying a new engine mount on Miss Ashley to reduce frontal area.
Trimmed the top off of a horseshoe backplate:
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Cut out the fuse like a Tee Dee side mount and sunk the firewall to the doubler:
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**Cribbs74** Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:13 pm

You guys are building some top notch stuff. I am going to have to up my game!

Love that mount Jim, excellent work.

batjac Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:46 pm

JPvelo wrote:

Cut out the fuse like a Tee Dee side mount and sunk the firewall to the doubler:

Great job! That's how I had planned to mount mine initially, but since I cut the backplate down to where the 4 mounting holes were no longer there, I couldn't use mounting screws from the front. I especially like how you inlet the motor mount for the needle valve and the air inlet.

The Impressed Mark

JPvelo Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:57 pm

batjac wrote:

Great job! That's how I had planned to mount mine initially, but since I cut the backplate down to where the 4 mounting holes were no longer there, I couldn't use mounting screws from the front. I especially like how you inlet the motor mount for the needle valve and the air inlet.

The Impressed Mark

Thank you, I'm planning on putting a intake scoop around the needle to force air into the intake.

Jim

pkrankow Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:24 am

I wish I had all these great ideas to start with! Top notch indeed!
Phil

OVERLORD Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:02 am

Jim, I was also thinking of making a ram intake, only this 180° turn bothers me a bit. What about the wire mesh on the air intake. Does that have a metering function or is just to stop rags an bolts flying in the engine?

Excellent built, very nice.

Lieven

pkrankow Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:43 am

Removing the screen is the first part of hopping up an engine.

http://coxengines.ca/engine-and-fuel-guides.html
look at "Gibeault Mouse Race Program"

Phil

JPvelo Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:04 am

OVERLORD wrote:Jim, I was also thinking of making a ram intake, only this 180° turn bothers me a bit. What about the wire mesh on the air intake. Does that have a metering function or is just to stop rags an bolts flying in the engine?

Excellent built, very nice.

Lieven

Phil is correct. The screen keeps out dirt, debris, and O2. I remove the screen and drill out the Venturi. The Paul Gibeault article is great. Are you using a intergral tanked engine or a seperate tank?

Jim

**RknRusty** Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:09 am

I've been pondering over how to add ram air too. I would love to rout it to the P-51's scoop under the fuse and maybe have a Tee Dee venturi, but that ain't likely to come to be. I think a short ram aluminum scoop just inboard of the backplate is easier and will look good too.

Rusty

JPvelo Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:52 am

RknRusty wrote:I've been pondering over how to add ram air too. I would love to rout it to the P-51's scoop under the fuse and maybe have a Tee Dee venturi, but that ain't likely to come to be. I think a short ram aluminum scoop just inboard of the backplate is easier and will look good too.

Rusty

I have found that the inner protective cap from Right Guard solid anti perspirint will make a perfect scoop lol!

I opened the air channel some more.
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Jim

JPvelo Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:19 am

Still waiting for decals but paint is pretty much done:
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Jim

Kim Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:47 am

WOW ! Beautiful Work !!!!

pkrankow Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:58 pm

WHOOO-OAH! What a nice looking plane that is there Jim!

pkrankow Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:02 pm

I just arranged to drill straight through the mount to allow my engine to breathe better. I feel drawing from a relatively large pool of relatively still air will provide for good performance, at least better than drawing from against a plank.

Phil

duke.johnson Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:05 pm

Great work Jim!

OVERLORD Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:14 pm

That's a beautiful plane Jim.

Thanks for the tips, guys. I'll be using a tanked engine, but after reading P. Gibeault's article, I would better change the standard tank for the larger one. Could I otherwise have problems for getting 10 laps + starting and "landing"?

Lieven

batjac Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:32 pm

JPvelo wrote:Still waiting for decals but paint is pretty much done:

Jim

Holy Cow!!!

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