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Post  DexVegas Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:17 pm

Hello! What is a decent what of mounting one of the newer RC engines with all that stuff behind the back plate? Searched the site, but found nothing. Seems like there would be something. A couple sticks of 1/4"-3/8" hardwood on the firewall to screw the motor onto? Any other ideas?

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Post  pkrankow Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:23 pm

Take the time to install Tee-nuts into the bulkhead then use short bolts.  Nothing better.  A bit of padding or caulk will prevent screw damage to other stuff.

That said I don't think I have a bulkhead mounted engine that uses tee nuts at this time. I use a lot of sheet metal screws and pad up the space.  This will change, tee nuts are much more elegant.  Everything I have RC has been broken a few times.  (I'm getting better.  Honest.  I only break stuff every 3rd or 4th outing now, and usually easy repairs.)

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Post  DexVegas Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:36 pm

You mean what they call blind nuts? I've always called them t-nuts too. A drop of weak lock tight should seal out goo too. Can't wait to get one of these fired up, been since the '80s.
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Post  pkrankow Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:41 pm

Yes, Tee nuts are a type of blind nut (I used to sell fasteners, there are many different types of blind nuts) Tee nuts come with prongs (or points) or holes for brads. Take your pick.

The caulk isn't for sealing, its for padding. You said there was "stuff" on the other side of the bulkhead.

On one airplane I have seen the owned complained that the screws punctured his fuel tank. When replacing the tank he put a dab of caulk on the screws, then let it cure. This made rubber bumpers for the fuel tank.

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Post  SuperDave Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:40 am

Also consider using "ny-loc" nuts for mounting purposes. The choice dependends upon the type of mount (either lug or radial) and their accessability once in the plane.

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Post  microflitedude Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:49 am

Hex head bolts, flat washers, lock nuts, and ball drivers is what I use for hardware.
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Post  tubebass Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:15 pm

I believe the OP is talking about a Sure Start type engine, in which case, yes, you would shim it out from the firewall with some hardwood sticks.
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Post  Kim Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:25 pm

A while back, I got some "adapter backplates" from Bernie that have a channel for the choke tube, and mount flat to the firewall.  Not sure if he still stocks them or whether they might work for you.
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Post  DexVegas Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:36 am

I believe the OP is talking about a Sure Start type engine wrote:
Yes tubebass (old Ampeg?), that is exactly right. Sure start type of backplate.


A while back, I got some "adapter backplates" from Bernie that have a channel for the choke tube, and mount flat to the firewall. Not sure if he still stocks them or whether they might work for you. wrote:
Kim, yes that is just what I thought I would find being sold for them, found nothing. I'll track down that Bernie fellow and inquire!

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
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Post  pkrankow Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:52 am

Bernie is
http://coxengines.ca/
the part you need
http://coxengines.ca/cox-.049-engine-firewall-helicopter-mount.html

Just for reference Matt is
http://www.exmodelengines.com/

Bernie and Matt provide a lot of support for this site, and are both great to do business with.

Phil
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Post  roddie Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:44 am

pkrankow wrote:Bernie is
http://coxengines.ca/
the part you need
http://coxengines.ca/cox-.049-engine-firewall-helicopter-mount.html

Just for reference Matt is
http://www.exmodelengines.com/

Bernie and Matt provide a lot of support for this site, and are both great to do business with.

Phil
Dex, Just a "heads-up"... Bernie is on Holiday for a few weeks. "Theresa" will be the person to contact at Cox International.
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Post  Kim Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:45 am

Hey Dex!

Sorry for being vague about our "Major Enablers" Bernie and Matt. That's s the thing about our bunch here...it's a "never met a stranger" type of atmosphere, and easy to forget that New Members have yet to meet everyone!

These two guys are the best and, along supplying our hobby, are MAJOR technical and historical info resources in their own right !!!

Thanks to Phil for providing that info...I was having trouble finding those backplates!

Later !!!
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Post  andrew Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:56 am

Walmart carries a mixed pack of hardwood square dowels in the craft section for a buck or so.  3/16" or 1/4" will get you shimmed out enough to clear the choke tube.  Like others, I prefer to use socket head screws and blind nuts rather than screws.  If the engine needs to come off the plane, you don't have to worry about stripping if you used wood screws.  I simply trial mount the engine, then dremel the screws to length so they are flush with the nut face, thus eliminating any chance to damage behind the firewall.

Since some of the shanks on the blind nuts may protrude thru the firewall (I generally use only 3/32 plywood), I'll mount the nuts, then file the shanks flush to the firewall on the front side before mounting the firewall in the plane.
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Post  John Goddard Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:11 pm

Blind, tee, captive, whatever you wanna call them, fit and forget.
Good enough for a YS160 or a Hacker A60 22 good enough for a Cox 049.
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