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Cox Engine of The Month
Crankcase upgrade/repair
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Crankcase upgrade/repair
There I was starting to prepare for the Cox flight contest and deciding which engine I could use. Difficult decision in my case - too many options.
Anyway, it had to be beam mounted for the aeroplane I have chosen (this has arrived but I am still waiting for balsa cement and dope - no longer can I walk to the local model shop! - everything has to be mail order.
It also has to be quiet and so needs a good silencer (muffler) and a bit of throttle control. Matt had supplied me with a Hiscott muffley thingy and so I selected one of my restored Medallions to go with it.
It looks the boy but was not to be a runner at the first attempt!
I was prepared for a lot of messing about with heads as the Hiscott system raises the cylinder and reduces the compression. Messing about turned into two and a half hours of flick - flick - flicking!
It started a couple of times, ran for a couple of minutes and then stopped abruptly. It would not restart while hot.
I thought it was compression and I had not chosen the right head, number of gaskets and so on.................
However. when it ran - the silencer was superb and the throttle control was excellent - along with idling.
After a while I notice fuel spewing from between the prop driver and the crankcase. Further examination showed that the crankshaft was a sloppy fit to say the least!
So ...... not being one to scrap anything - it was time to strip the thing a let it visit the workshop. Where it was.........
drilled and reamed
a suitable piece of brass selected
I made a mistake and turned it too small and so worked further on it for a Bee crankcase
anyway - back to the Medallion
off to the mill!
Reassembly ready for testing. Too late to test tonight but fingers crossed for tomorrow. What am I saying? Better not cross my fingers while flicking the thing!
Anyway, it had to be beam mounted for the aeroplane I have chosen (this has arrived but I am still waiting for balsa cement and dope - no longer can I walk to the local model shop! - everything has to be mail order.
It also has to be quiet and so needs a good silencer (muffler) and a bit of throttle control. Matt had supplied me with a Hiscott muffley thingy and so I selected one of my restored Medallions to go with it.
It looks the boy but was not to be a runner at the first attempt!
I was prepared for a lot of messing about with heads as the Hiscott system raises the cylinder and reduces the compression. Messing about turned into two and a half hours of flick - flick - flicking!
It started a couple of times, ran for a couple of minutes and then stopped abruptly. It would not restart while hot.
I thought it was compression and I had not chosen the right head, number of gaskets and so on.................
However. when it ran - the silencer was superb and the throttle control was excellent - along with idling.
After a while I notice fuel spewing from between the prop driver and the crankcase. Further examination showed that the crankshaft was a sloppy fit to say the least!
So ...... not being one to scrap anything - it was time to strip the thing a let it visit the workshop. Where it was.........
drilled and reamed
a suitable piece of brass selected
I made a mistake and turned it too small and so worked further on it for a Bee crankcase
anyway - back to the Medallion
off to the mill!
Reassembly ready for testing. Too late to test tonight but fingers crossed for tomorrow. What am I saying? Better not cross my fingers while flicking the thing!
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
Impressive....... I would love to bush some of mine.
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
Me too, nice work, Ian. Do you cut an oil groove in the bushing? I don't remember if the TeeDallion crankcase has one. Is brass as good as bronze?
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
Nice work! Did you add an oil groove to the bushing or is it not needed? What material did you use. I need to get a collet system for my lathe
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
Bronze - phosphor bronze - is better than brass by far. It is easy to machine but very difficult to drill. The material "grabs" drills and it is difficult to get a straight and clean bore. Drills will wander off line. It also heats up quite quickly when drilling. It has to be done slowly with modified drill bits.
The Medallions and Tee Dees don't need a groove but the Bee might. I will run it without and see what happens!
The Medallions and Tee Dees don't need a groove but the Bee might. I will run it without and see what happens!
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
I got it running but it needs a bit more patience setting the head and gasketing.
A bit boring but the engine is quiet!
A bit boring but the engine is quiet!
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
Nice muffler may work good on a cox car...do you have the site that sells them?
THANKS
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
I am afraid they are no longer easily obtainable.
ian1954- Diamond Member
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
I was thinking the same thing, looks like a great car muffler!
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
I finally got around to building up the Bee. Thought it strange watching the fuel dancing in the filler tube!
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
Nice and steady, that's as smooth as they get. Sounds ready yo fly.
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Re: Crankcase upgrade/repair
Excellent work Ian! And thanks for the videos as well.
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