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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:31 pm

How did "barnstormers" get their name and when?

(I'd prefer knowledge derived from your brain. Obious reference users will be disqualified; "sneaky" ones an undisclosed fate worse than that.

I reserve the right to pass judgement on entries. Good luck!
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Post  RknRusty Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:53 pm

Was it when Howard Hughes was doing crazy things for show in airplanes? Maybe he flew through a barn and started a dangerous fad?

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Post  duke.johnson Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:05 pm

I think it was when pilots would fly to fields outside towns and give rides and stunt for the crowds. And it was after the pilots got back from WWI, whatever year that was. Sorry I like history, but not great with dates.
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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:06 pm

Rusty:

Nice try but no cigar.
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Post  duke.johnson Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:21 pm

That's it! I'm looking it up! DQ me if you want. tongue Computer Issues
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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:36 pm

Duke writes elements of truth but I'd like more please.

Hint:

"The Great War" (WWI -1914-18) has something to do with the answer.
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Post  duke.johnson Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:38 pm

Should I not assume you are talking about planes? Huh...
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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:41 pm

Duke:

If you choise to DQ yourself, please don't "spill" the answers. Keep them "under you hat". please. Gracias
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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:48 pm

duke.johnson wrote:Should I not assume you are talking about planes? Huh...

Though "assume" can have a comedic meaning, in this case your assumption is correct.

Yes, airplanes are basic to the question.

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Post  Cribbs74 Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:49 pm

Does it have something to do with bored ex WWI pilots doing exhibition stunts and flying through barns?

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Post  duke.johnson Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:50 pm

I haven't DQ'ed myself yet, just had anohter thought. PM coming your way.
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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:51 pm

Ron is ahead so far.

Flesh it out. There's more.
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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:59 pm

Boredoom wasn't the movation for "barnstorming". What was?
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Post  ian1954 Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:03 pm

Barnstorming was originally a reference to political shenanigans in rural pastures.
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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:07 pm

Ian:

Political shenanigans are not related "barnstorming" post WWI..
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Post  fredvon4 Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:32 pm

Is my browser (IE 9) broken again?

Wise arss me has to admit selling barnstorming as trivia is a novel idea... BUT I can't find the link to buy a clue.....grin
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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:33 pm

Time! Game's over. Thanks to those particapting.

You may now drive in to your references.

GO FOR IT!
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Post  John Goddard Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:36 pm

We've all been on google Dave (haven't you Ian lol! ) but it doesn't say.
Put us out of our misery.....
I thought it may have been Kraut
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Post  SuperDave Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:31 pm

Sorry lads, my wife and I have social engagment this evening and I don't want to come home to a load of more answers (guesses).
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Post  duke.johnson Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:29 pm

After looking into this when I arrived home. Their seem to be a couple right answers above.

From the dictionary:
barnstormer n.
1. To travel around the countryside making political speeches, giving lectures, or presenting theatrical performances.
2. To appear at county fairs and carnivals in exhibitions of stunt flying and parachute jumping.


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Barnstorming was a popular form of entertainment in the USA in the 1920s, in which stunt pilots would perform tricks with airplanes, either individually or in groups called a flying circus. Barnstorming was the first major form of civil aviation in the history of flight.

The term barnstormer was also applied to pilots who flew throughout the country selling airplane rides, usually operating from a farmer's field for a day or two before moving on. "Barnstorming season" ran from early spring until after the harvest and county fairs in the fall.

The term barnstorming comes from an earlier American tradition of rural political campaigns. Which 'THEY' (whoever they are) the politicians had the term first. Early 1920's.
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Post  Mark Boesen Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:35 pm

Yep, it seems the aviation term was adapted from the original political term.
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Post  ian1954 Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:00 am

John Goddard wrote:We've all been on google Dave (haven't you Ian lol! ) but it doesn't say.
Put us out of our misery.....
I thought it may have been Kraut

The search engine I use is www.dogpile.co.uk

This today produced

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_does_the_term_barnstorming_come_from

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Post  SuperDave Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:43 am

all:

In short, WWI ushered in what is commonly known a "The Golden Age of Aviation". In America, aviators like Capttain Eddie Richenbacker (sp) became national icons in a group know as the "Laffette Escadrille" (sp) (a group of American aviators who went "Over There" (France) to repell the German onsloght from the air. (The US had not yet entered the war)

I'll spare you the story of WWI aviation.

Following the war aviation and it's heros became tremdously popular with the public. Though the war had ended the fascination with aviation had not. Returning aviators yearned to fly and the public desired to see them fly.

There were an abundance of aircraft returned from the war that were surplused at bargain prices and the aviators took to them readilly enabling them to exhibit their fly skills with deeds of "daring-do"; there seemed to be no limit to what they would attempt in the exhibitions.

With the paying public in attendance one of the most popular exhibitions was "BARNSTORMIG"; the practice of flying through the opened doors of a large barn not Ron, because the aviators were "bored" but becaue aviators enjoyed the challenge and were paid to do so. (No, not all of them weree successful)

Remember this all happened a sant time from the Wright Brothers historic powered flight at Kill Devil Hill,NC in 1903. (BTW, Kitty Hawk is the region, Kill Devil is the site)In a very short time aviation had risen from a curiosity to a practically.

Later were to come were marathon flights such as Lindburgh's non-stop flight from New York to Paris in 1927. "Lucky Lindy" joined the icons of flight. Tunes like: "Those Daring Young Men in their Flying Machines" were popular on Maroni's new (yes) wireless radio.

I have this information entirely within my head in case you are intested. My spelling may be off but for that I ask your forgiveness.

BTW: The term aviator is period correct.

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Post  RknRusty Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:01 pm

SuperDave wrote:With the paying public in attendance one of the most popular exhibitions was "BARNSTORMING"; the practice of flying through the opened doors of a large barn not Ron, because the aviators were "bored" but because aviators enjoyed the challenge and were paid to do so. (No, not all of them were successful)
So my guess was more or less right. I got one!
Just not ol' Howard.

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Post  SuperDave Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:16 pm

Rusty:

I'll concede that your answer was "less" rather than "more" correct

I surely had fun with my post beause it caused members to scrounge for anwers and in the process come across with insights they may not have possessed previously.

I thought it a healthy exercise of the mind in a subject matter of common interest: aviation.

As a high school teacher I was a more of a guide to my students than a fountain of knowledge spewing forth verbage. I bemoan the fact that is no longer acceptable in many schools today.
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