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Post  John Goddard Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:20 pm

Just been offered a 40 and a 61.
Did any of you lads have one back in the day
And what did think of them?

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Post  ian1954 Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:18 pm

Hirtenberger Patronen AG - Known to me as HP - The engines and not the sauce.

Only ever had the .20
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Post  gcb Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:36 pm

HP's are now available at MECOA. Many are sold out but some are available.

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Post  Mark Boesen Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:31 pm

I got a .40 from a buddy that was attched to a 'hanger queen' (Lincoln Standard) bipe, never ran, bolted it to my favorite R/C plane and flew the crap out of it for a summer, took it off and eBayed it before it got damaged. Ran ok, had Perry carb, which i never had issues, no Rossi, but no slug either.
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Post  Cribbs74 Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:36 pm

Well, that's one more than I've had. I do like the sauce though!
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Post  Mark Boesen Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:40 pm

opps, HP!

There was a gold and black HP .40 that was pretty hot, other then that not much differance then, say a Irvine, kinda cool if you want something different for a power plant...and if the price is right, why not.
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Post  John Goddard Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:01 am

I had no idea House of Parliament Sauce was sold over there Ron
Just about mandatory for bacon sarnies.
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Back to the Motas....
The one above Mark has got made in Germany on the box.
Which as well as the groovy black carb I'd say marks it as
Later version.
The one's I'm looking at are made in Austria and the carbs look
Much more utilitarian....
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Post  Ken Cook Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:40 am

Mark, your PDP engraving is in red. I own the .40 in black. I like the engine personally. My engine is made in W.Germany. I know there's another company that always seem to be confused with HB engines. It may be HP engine company. I'm just not an r/c guy. I had someone else fly and trim my plane for me. Every now and then I take it out and have someone fly the plane. The Perry carb works quite well. The idle is fantastic as well as the transition to full power. I believe the engine has a Dyke's ring. Very well made. I know the engine is quite heavy. I'm not sure if that's a factor with the r/c crowd. I obtained my engine in the late eighties. I believe the demise of the company was not far after that. Mecoa does has some parts as I needed some screws for the carb and a muffler that got damaged. The ones that I've seen on Ebay seem to retain a pretty good value. Ken
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Post  Surfer_kris Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:30 am

HP where made in Austria, parts are sold by Meccoa, including the four stroke VT engine.

HB is/was German. Nice old-school engines, I have a few of the .12 and .15 engines and a .21. Some spare parts for these are available from Meccoa too.
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Post  John Goddard Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:53 am

Surfer_kris wrote:HP where made in Austria, parts are sold by Meccoa, including the four stroke VT engine.

HB is/was German. Nice old-school engines, I have a few of the .12 and .15 engines and a .21. Some spare parts for these are available from Meccoa too.

Thanx for that Kris I must wear my glasses more often.....!

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Post  ian1954 Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:57 am

You weren't looking at a pencil then?
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Post  Mark Boesen Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:11 am


FYI...PDP, Perry Direct Porting, kind of a Schnuerle porting design. I've always had good luck with Perry carbs., alot of people used to bee-itch about them.
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Post  Surfer_kris Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:00 pm

The Perry carbs are nice, they were the "thing" to have the time. The Veco .19 with a Perry is still a very competitive engine on larger props.
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