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Post  mitchg95 Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:23 pm

how can i make new gaskets for my 1975 os max sr 40?
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Post  Cribbs74 Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:11 pm

mitchg95 wrote:how can i make new gaskets for my 1975 os max sr 40?

Gasket making is a tad tricky for what we mess with. It's not like gasket making for automotive applications.

If you can find thin enough gasket material you can use the old ones as a template. What gasket do you plan on making?

I can answer better if I knew.

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Post  Admin Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:24 pm

I have made gaskets for larger engines using paper from a brown paper bag. I have used handmade gaskets out of paper from a paper bag on a chainsaw and a weed eater as well as on my cousin's lawnmower engine. I have no idea if my cousin ever had any issues caused by the gasket after I have done it but the chainsaw and the weed eater are still fine. I formed the gaskets by holding the cut piece of paper over the case and then punched the holes for the screws. I then inserted the screws so the piece of paper wouldn't move on me. I took a small hard rubber hammer and taped around the outside and inside edges of the case. Just by tapping, the paper cut or was weakened so it could be torn around the edges. You may not want to do too hard of tapping on your small engine although I don't recall seeing any rounded edges or dings on the other engines I have done it to.

If you don't want to tap on your engine at all, you can take an ink stamp pad and stamp the end of the case in the ink and then onto the brown paper. Then take an xacto knife and cut the gasket out.

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Post  RknRusty Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:44 pm

Great ideas, Jacob.

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Post  Ken Cook Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:05 pm

Permatex makes this product and I highly suggest it for all who needs a replacement gasket such as a backplate. This is not a replacement for head gaskets. http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/anaerobic_gasket_makers/Permatex_Anaerobic_Gasket_Maker_b.htm This is an excellent product for this kind of application. It's formulated for alcohol submersion, it doesn't give off acetic acid like some silicone products do and it only dries in a closed environment. Any of the product that oozes out is just wiped off as it will never harden. A little goes a long way so only the smallest tube is required. I keep it in my pit box for emergency use and it has a long shelf life.
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Post  RknRusty Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:27 am

That looks like something I need in the arsenal. I've always used the regular black RTV, but never have seen the small tubes of anaerobic goo before.

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Post  SuperDave Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:34 am

Too expand on Jacob's idea a bit.

Circular gaskets may be made by holding the gasket material over the hole and then tapping a small ball peen hammer to cut out the holes.
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Post  gcb Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:29 pm

For a little bit thicker material you can use manila folders or playing cards.

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Post  dckrsn Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:35 pm

Made a case gasket(front) for a McCoy .36 today.
This engine has a removable nose assembly as opposed
to a backplate.
Hated every minute of it, but got it done.
I use a drafting compass fitted with a skinny Exacto knife to
cut the inside circle and outside arcs between the screw lugs.
Worked pretty well. I used a sharpened piece of 1/16 copper
tubing to cut the screw holes.
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Post  mitchg95 Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:22 pm

dckrsn wrote:Made a case gasket(front) for a McCoy .36 today.
This engine has a removable nose assembly as opposed
to a backplate.
Hated every minute of it, but got it done.
I use a drafting compass fitted with a skinny Exacto knife to
cut the inside circle and outside arcs between the screw lugs.
Worked pretty well. I used a sharpened piece of 1/16 copper
tubing to cut the screw holes.
Bob
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thanks for the suggestion, what can i make one from?
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Post  dckrsn Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:36 am

I used plain 1/64" gasket paper though
there are several options.
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Post  pkrankow Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:18 pm

Paper, paper bag, cereal boxes, playing cards, shim stock, leather (not on models though). Many suitable material choices for gasket making.

Easy is if you can press the flat of the part into the material with a soft backing under the material, and an "ink" on the material. Dark colored grease is a good ink, sometimes sold as "axle" grease. You probably have some in the garage. Sharpie pen can work for small parts too, draw it on heavy and quickly press into the material. Ink pads for rubber stamps are awesome, but clean-up can be a pain.

Now the fun part, cutting the gasket out. Rarely you can use the mating part to shear the gasket. On models this usually results in a broken part, but it sometimes works on full-size applications with heavy steel parts. Your best bets are razor or x-acto knives on self-healing mats, or fine tip scissors. You can use drill bits to clean screw holes before or during test fits (don't mar threads!), or even cut away screw holes and forget about them in some cases! (bad idea with "delicate" parts) Best thing is the outer edge can be left ragged frequently, clean up after assembly.

For cutting perfect holes using a hole cutter is great. Frequently you can use a socket wrench and a hammer to pinch a hole against a heavy steel plate. (For a gasket or two you won't damage the socket, but the risk of damage increases quickly) If the inside surface needs a tight fit this can be trimmed out with scissors, or pressed over the part and trimmed out with a razor blade in place. You can also fit the screws in place then trim to the inside of the hole with an x-acto knife.

Yes, I have made a few gaskets before, some for model airplane engines, most for antique outboard engines.

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Post  mitchg95 Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:58 am

pkrankow wrote:Paper, paper bag, cereal boxes, playing cards, shim stock, leather (not on models though). Many suitable material choices for gasket making.

Easy is if you can press the flat of the part into the material with a soft backing under the material, and an "ink" on the material. Dark colored grease is a good ink, sometimes sold as "axle" grease. You probably have some in the garage. Sharpie pen can work for small parts too, draw it on heavy and quickly press into the material. Ink pads for rubber stamps are awesome, but clean-up can be a pain.

Now the fun part, cutting the gasket out. Rarely you can use the mating part to shear the gasket. On models this usually results in a broken part, but it sometimes works on full-size applications with heavy steel parts. Your best bets are razor or x-acto knives on self-healing mats, or fine tip scissors. You can use drill bits to clean screw holes before or during test fits (don't mar threads!), or even cut away screw holes and forget about them in some cases! (bad idea with "delicate" parts) Best thing is the outer edge can be left ragged frequently, clean up after assembly.

For cutting perfect holes using a hole cutter is great. Frequently you can use a socket wrench and a hammer to pinch a hole against a heavy steel plate. (For a gasket or two you won't damage the socket, but the risk of damage increases quickly) If the inside surface needs a tight fit this can be trimmed out with scissors, or pressed over the part and trimmed out with a razor blade in place. You can also fit the screws in place then trim to the inside of the hole with an x-acto knife.

Yes, I have made a few gaskets before, some for model airplane engines, most for antique outboard engines.

Phil

thanks for the wealth of information guys Smile ill be sure to make the gaskets exactly as you described Phil Smile
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Post  pkrankow Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:00 pm

How did it go?
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