Plastic Cox/Testors Fly-em Junque

Sorry for the thread hijack Bob. Yabby, not to take the wind out of the sails but the DR-1 landing gear is the worst design to have on a control line plane. In other words, it will almost immediately rip the gear out of the fuse on contact with grass. Control line gear tends to splay on impact so anything attached to it is going to exit immediately.

        Yes, it's a cool plane. They're extremely draggy which means it needs power. I built this Sterling DR-1. I truly believe a fart offers more power than the #2 Black Widow I have on this. A TD wouldn't be much help here either. The short nose required almost 3 oz's of lead on the inside of the cowling. It flies like a bowling ball and performs about the same. Whenever things get scaled down, they fly worse and this plane barely has survived flying. It's a shelf queen for me. I built it 37 years ago and it's flown about 6 times. I almost didn't recover it one day and called it quits before it re-kitted.
             Just a dust collector nowadays. Sun is fading the color and age has it's covering splitting thanks to the horrific Aero Gloss .

OOooh, Yabbeeee!

Here you go...enjoy WWI:
https://www.airplanesandrockets.com/airplanes/bipes-tripes-mar-1974-aam.htm

rsv1cox wrote:  
I love the saga of the Baron.

I also love the story of Richthofen. when I was about 12 my uncle lent me a hardback cover version of "The Red Knight of Germany" -cassell. I also has the 45's of Snoopy vs the red baron by the royal guardsmen. I had forgotten about that. Lol.

Its a hard split for me between the Dr-1 and the SR-71. I think im a bit biased due to the aerospace company i work for. Both are pretty cool in their own right. The time in which the DR-1 was built and the haste and technology available, it was amazing and then the SR-71, things like the way the USA obtained the titanium from the Soviets for the leading edges of the wings and also the technique used to restart an engine when it flamed out, which happened to some at mach 3. Imagine the sudden yaw when one side flames out. Lol. The cold war certainly saw boundaries pushed in aviation and risks taken! I dont like the period due to the political conflict and things but the stuff that was created due to it was unbelievable! acceptable mission risk profiles were very different to todays, and Im not saying that a bad thing really.

Bit of a hijack also. :-) I get a bit excited about that stuff from that period. like the fact that the saturn V main booster stage had a fuel pump for each of the five F-1 rocket engines, and each fuel pump was driven by a 55,000 brake horsepower gas generator driving a turbine.

Yabby

Surely a fake photograph!  Doesn't fit the era at all.

rsv1cox wrote:

I think the date on the picture should read 1977, not 1917.
Sorry, but I will continue in my skepticism.   I'm no bike expert, but even at first glance, the tank, the hi-rise bars, the fat rear tyre are all wrong for 1917- Just takes a quick search for 1917 Harley Davidson and nothing looks familiar.

You're all welcome to shoot me down in flames!

Wondered about it myself, to me that looks like a late ’30s Harley flathead engine, I think the gearbox looks like ’50s or later and the whole shebang is a custom build from late ’90s I would guess.

Lola was the name of Ernst Udet’s girlfriend, he had the text ”LO!” on the side of his D.VII, with the famous ”Du doch... Nicht!!” On the elevator.

I wonder if there were another bike on which the Baron was seated in the original photo

Iron cross magazine:

https://m.facebook.com/ironcrossmagazine/photos/a.400198247441011/881428405984657/?type=3&_rdr

with comments!

rsv1cox wrote:Custom built for the Baron by Harley Davidson.  

Or ”Custom built by the Baron for Harley Davidson”

I have it on good information that Richthofen was a big
springer front end fan.
Bob

thank you Bob, "Springer fan" --- I just horked water out my nose and all over my keyboard laughing.

nothing about that photo is close to correct. for WW1 era, it would have been a slab sided tank, L, F or J-ish model motor.. etc. etc. etc.

and more importantly, if he hadn't been shot down and killed in 1918 --- he'd have been on that newfangled 1919 BMW R32 the aircraft company started making ....