Stuff I didn't know existed, list of Cox #?

Surfer_kris wrote:Is there any good collection of Cox order numbers and what there were made for?

One reason I'm asking is that I found a glow-head for the 09 I didn't know existed or even remembered that I had...
It is marked with 21020 and it seems to be made for turbo plugs (sweet!) but when did they ever make those?

Wow I did not know that either!
Do you have a picture?

Here are two pictures with a an OS turbo plug mounted in it.

Wow very cool!
I have a "pee wee .010"
Prop screw and washer nib!

Is that a resealable bag?

John Goddard wrote:Is that a resealable bag?

Looks like it, Busta!

Busta, or Buster?, or did you spend to much time in the Bastu?

Yes, like so many of the cox items at the time, it came in a zip bag. The number for the regular TD 09 head is 2102, not 21020 like the one shown above.

Surfer_kris wrote:Busta, or Buster?, or did you spend to much time in the Bastu?

Yes, like so many of the cox items at the time, it came in a zip bag. The number for the regular TD 09 head is 2102, not 21020 like the one shown above.

Sorry Busta is John (his youtube name).

That head is off of a Queen Bee .074 or a TD RC .09. They did not use turbo plugs. Turbo plugs seal at the bottom of the plug and the pic above does not show that.

Jason

Okey, what would it take to convince you that it is a Turbo plug head?
I know of coarse about the QB engine, I have four of them myself. I have also made my own heads that take turbo plugs, for other engines, so I am well aware of how they work compared to a regular plug. Apart from the sealing surface, the threads are also different and you would not be able to fit a turbo plug in a head with a regular plug thread...

Here is another image, QB head and plug on the left;

Kris’s glow plug photo prompted me to check which plug is in my 09 R/C. It turns out that I can now add it to my list of ‘Stuff I didn’t know’. It has an idle bar and a flat coil element. Strange (at least to me).
To the best of my knowledge it is original. I got the engine from an acquaintance that had only flown it a time or two.
Has anyone else seen a plug like this?
Al

I have seen stock QB heads with and without idle bar but never with the flat glowbee wire style...

Well the turbo plug head for an 09 is something I haven't seen before. The TD 09 head part number is 2102. Looks like an extra zero was added to the part number for this head.

Between 1977 and 1978 Cox changed their numbering system. Several products changed from 4 digits to 5 digits. That could be the reason for the odd number?

That flat element is a Glo Bee plug.

Mike1484

altidsulten wrote:Hi,
I am trying to make a list of Cox part numbers, but it is very difficult as they changed their system more than once.
So far i have around 900 numbers, but i am only scratching the surface!

Hilsen Thomas Pedersen
Danmark

Hello,

I too have been trying to put together a list of Cox part numbers. However, I don't have many entries yet.

In an attempt to make this list more useful, I am putting it together in spreadsheet form. I am using Microsoft Office Excel 2003.

If there is a way to do so, I will attach this file. I ask anyone who is interested to fill in as many part numbers as they wish. Then, please post the amended file back to this thread.

zeissman wrote:If there is a way to do so, I will attach this file.  I ask anyone who is interested to fill in as many part numbers as they wish.  Then, please post the amended file back to this thread.

Is there a way to attach a Microsoft Office Excel 2003 file to a post. If not, then is there any other way to make an Excel file available to others so that they may download it?

I noticed on my profile that there is a heading entitled "Attachments." However, I have no idea how to upload any such attachments.

An administrator/moderator would need to create a page or "sticky" I think. I believe it would be a worthwhile resource.. and would be a work-in-progress.. because of all the obscure stuff that Cox did over the years. I'd personally love to have access to such a document.

Submissions would need to be sent to a private email account, where they could be reviewed/verified and formatted into documents that could be added to the forum's already-existing "INFO" section.

That would really make this forum the ultimate resource on Cox engines and all the different configurations that Cox offered over the years.. as well as some of the more obscure "parts" that were directly related to engine-performance.

Granted; It would be a lot of work.. but we do have an established network of very knowledgeable Cox-engine enthusiasts already in place that could offer valuable photos/images, vintage articles.. etc.

Martin Hepperle's site has been an awesome resource.. but CEF could take it a step further. Engines would be the primary focus.. and Cox engine-powered models could be an additional database that would be very helpful to our overall community.

altidsulten wrote:Hi,
I am trying to make a list of Cox part numbers, but it is very difficult as they changed their system more than once.
So far i have around 900 numbers, but i am only scratching the surface!

Hilsen Thomas Pedersen
Danmark

Dan Sitter, california_Dan on eBay and author of the Cox handbook avaiable from Tim Dannels ( www.modelenginecollecting.com ) had access to the Cox factory after it was shut down. He probably has access or has the old and new cox numbers.

zeissman wrote:Is there a way to attach a Microsoft Office Excel 2003 file to a post.  If not, then is there any other way to make an Excel file available to others so that they may download it?

You can with a bitmap print driver. It works like a printer, but allows you to save the printout as a graphic image. One for example is:

https://code-industry.net/imageprinterpro/

I have never used their driver, so YMMV (your mileage may vary. )

Instead, I'm using Ubuntu Linux and LibreOffice, a fork of OpenOffice. It has an export function where I can specify to save printout as bitmapped (.png, .jpg, etc.), which then can be uploaded as an image.

An alternative is to do a screen capture, use photo editing software to remove unimportant stuff like the Windows bars, then post.

Big Al wrote:Kris’s glow plug photo prompted me to check which plug is in my 09 R/C.  It turns out that I can now add it to my list of ‘Stuff I didn’t know’.  It has an idle bar and a flat coil element.  Strange (at least to me).
To the best of my knowledge it is original. I got the engine from an acquaintance that had only flown it a time or two.
Has anyone else seen a plug like this?
Al

Hi Al,

I picked up a nib TD .09 RC (#211) this summer from a modeler in southern Ontario who was selling off modeling stuff from a retiring hobbyist. The engine, upon dismantling, does not appear to have been run.

The glo plug on my engine is the same in that a short reach glo plug is screwed into the cylinder head .... but no idle bar; flat plug element, body of plug is black with kurls, three kurls on vertical battery bar and a fairly wide white circle between this vertical bar and the black glo plug body when looking from above.
In the accompanying care and operating instruction sheet, a black and white photo shows a black bodied glo plug with a vertical battery bar with several kurls.

Michael in Ontario, Canada

There was recent conversation in my Tee Dee .09 thread, regarding the Tee Dee .09RC engine using the same head with standard 1/4-32 threaded plug application as the Queen Bee .074. Cox apparently sold a replacement plug for the head(s).. Hope this sheds some light.

That plug looks like a flat coil long Sonic Tronics Glo Devil