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Post  Cox International Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:21 pm

Swags conrod into ball socket for the pistons and conrods we recently had made but also great for resetting. Three assemblies per minutes that include:


  • Putting piston in base
    Dipping ball of conrod in oil
    Putting conrod in piston
    Swaging (one stroke)
    Checking for proper "play"
    Checking for uniform swag
    Checking fit in cylinder


Note that the strike tool does not have a "slit" like the standard reset tool
Very few need a second "press" but that is what the turntable on bearings is for

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Post  Cribbs74 Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:30 pm

That definitely is the best design I have seen. I really like the fact that the conrod isn’t off to one side. Also very little chance of messing up.

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Post  Cox International Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:42 pm

Master toolmaker from our small-town machine shop. Everything by hand; they have no CNC machines.
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Post  Cox International Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:49 pm

Alright, time to leave the office and sit in the spa outside, overlooking the lake with a nice glass of something. Only 5 below right now, so hair probably will not freeze from the steam.

Speaking of hair, although hairdressers have been declared non-essential, booze and weed are essential services … gotta love that lol!
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Post  Surfer_kris Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:28 am

First of April?
How would that work without a slot for the conrod? Doh Doh!
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Post  davidll1984 Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:36 am

look like gun cartrige maker machine very nice equipement would love workin for machinist to get trik from him
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Post  Cox International Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:30 pm

Not a prank …..

They first designed 5 or 6 different tools with the slot but found that one would have to do a minimum of 8-10 presses, each with increasing pressure, so that the wall of the socket did not tear where it mated with the slot.

They finally cut a piston in half and came up with a solid tool; whereas only one press is required. A bit flatter socket radius but absolutely functional and we have shipped over 300 of the new piston production.

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Post  Surfer_kris Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:00 pm

Hu, I though the big end would be way too large in order for that to work...

Will you be making resetting tools this way now too?
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Post  1/2A Nut Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:33 pm

Bernie Thumbs Up

Good to see a smooth accurate solution to get the piston assemblies together, up to 90 units per hour!
Thank you for sharing the process. Still seems like you would need a slot to get a proper setting of the
ball to socket.

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Post  Cox International Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:42 pm

Surfer_kris wrote:Hu, I though the big end would be way too large in order for that to work...

Will you be making resetting tools this way now too?

Something to think about but not sure. Way too many other projects being chased after.
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Post  Cox International Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:44 pm

1/2A Nut wrote:Bernie Thumbs Up

Good to see a smooth accurate solution to get the piston assemblies together, up to 90 units per hour!
Thank you for sharing the process. Still seems like you would need a slot to get a proper setting of the
ball to socket.

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It's actually 180 sets / hour Smile

No slot at all required. Why would one want a slot in the first place? Ronald Valentine presses his pistons the same way.
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Post  roddie Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:47 pm

Cox International wrote:
1/2A Nut wrote:Bernie Thumbs Up

Good to see a smooth accurate solution to get the piston assemblies together, up to 90 units per hour!
Thank you for sharing the process. Still seems like you would need a slot to get a proper setting of the
ball to socket.

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It's actually 180 sets / hour Smile

No slot at all required. Why would one want a slot in the first place? Ronald Valentine presses his pistons the same way.

This thread made me smile. Smile I wouldn't be surprised if L.M. Cox didn't have a similar set-up. Kudos to your machinist!
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Post  Dave P. Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:17 pm

That's slick Bernie. Any chance of doing cylinders too?
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Post  roddie Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:28 pm

Dave P. wrote:That's slick Bernie.  Any chance of doing cylinders too?

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Post  Surfer_kris Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:14 am

roddie wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if L.M. Cox didn't have a similar set-up.

You are probably right there.
In the past I have wondered why the piston part isn't well wrapped around the conrod ball from the factory. It seems to wrap around much better after using the (slotted) reset tool. Not sure what is best though, it might be easier for oil to get in there without having the piston part fully wrapped around the conrod ball.
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Post  Cox International Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:17 pm

Dave P. wrote:That's slick Bernie.  Any chance of doing cylinders too?

At some point in a few years perhaps. The reason we had 4,000 pistons made was because we have over 3,000 cylinders in stock (between Matt and us), so no point in having any made now.
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Post  Cox International Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:21 pm

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Dave P. wrote:That's slick Bernie.  Any chance of doing cylinders too?

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Ronald Valentine has been customizing cylinders for us for many years now.
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Post  Cox International Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:22 pm

Surfer_kris wrote:
roddie wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if L.M. Cox didn't have a similar set-up.

You are probably right there.
In the past I have wondered why the piston part isn't well wrapped around the conrod ball from the factory. It seems to wrap around much better after using the (slotted) reset tool. Not sure what is best though, it might be easier for oil to get in there without having the piston part fully wrapped around the conrod ball.

Not meaning to argue but, IMO, an un-slotted version is superior.
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Post  Dave P. Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:55 pm

Cox International wrote:
Dave P. wrote:That's slick Bernie.  Any chance of doing cylinders too?

At some point in a few years perhaps. The reason we had 4,000 pistons made was because we have over 3,000 cylinders in stock (between Matt and us), so no point in having any made now.
That's pretty reassuring.
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