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Post  rsv1cox Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:13 am

Ha, Glory! I flew the thing.

First time since I flew a Cox PT-19 in the field beside the house about five years ago with Mark taking pictures of me falling down dizzy drunk.  

No Mark this time, used my rinkey stooge instead.  This is the same Corsair that had the troubled engine that I sent to Ron, who promptly got it running.  So, we replaced the engine and Mark flew it this last Spring.  But, it had a 3 blade Wen Prop that wasn't up to the task, so I replaced it with a Cox 5/3.

Mark had to whip it to get it in the air and it flew a lazy round and round.  The Cox 5/3 did a much better job, took off after a 10 foot roll and flew actually so well that I attempted a wing over after several circles.  Wouldn't you know, the engine quit at the top of the wing-over and became a lawn dart.  So did I, falling to my knees but not the prone position I assumed with the PT-19.  Shook it off and inspected the pieces.  Broken prop but otherwise all is well.

Bench test showed promise, so I set up the stooge.

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Straining at the leash.  Got to admit, I let it run there about 30 seconds burning off fuel before I let it go.

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Net result.

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But it's a start.
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Post  KariFS Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:59 am

Way to go Bob!

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Post  NEW222 Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:24 pm

Good job at putting it back up in the air. No major damage is always good in my books.
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Post  rsv1cox Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:40 am

Thanks guys,

Got it cleaned up and back together. Simple Green and Remoil.   Replaced the prop with a 3 blade and a new color coordinated rubber band.  Smile  Also cleaned up the control handle that came with it, also coordinated.  Tossed the old oil soaked line which measured just 19' handle to bell-crank.  It zipped around pretty good.  

Rubber band on these is a pain to attach, slips out all the time during assembly.  Cured that by routing it over the prop drive then bringing it down over the wing.  

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So much easier to attach the band on the Testors Cosmic Wind.

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Going to find an original canopy and retire it.
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Post  rsv1cox Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:20 pm

Any body got a spare canopy?

I could build one out of balsa or perhaps heat some plastic bottle over a mold, but I would like to keep it stock.
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Post  1975 control line guy Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:06 am

Just got this very used eBay find cleaned up and ready for flight.  The wing needed a  .032 music wire JB weld crack repair.  The engine was really bad so I cobbled together a horse shoe engine from my private collection and installed it.  The fuel system was really bad so I performed a tankectomy and installed a 1/2 oz wedge tank.  Engine runs well with the new fuel system so as soon as I get a calm day I will be out Flying

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Post  latole Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:43 am

Could you show me a better photo of your system for releasing the plane? I'd like to build one for myself. Thanks

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Post  rsv1cox Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:23 am

latole wrote:Could you show me a better photo of your system for releasing the plane? I'd like to build one for myself. Thanks


Mine is simply a door latch bolt with a spring and string affair. The string is attached to the model and is released when the latch is pulled, the string remaining on the model. Effective but not a very good design. Do a search, there are better designs posted here.

The Cox Corsair, they are everywhere, they must have sold thousands. This is the same Corsair but now with a balsa canopy, not a very good rendition. Shown with an "up-arrow" Corsair that Kim sent me many years ago. I love the Corsairs, I actually started a real live WW2 example in AN-P school.

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Post  1975 control line guy Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:36 am

I repurposed an old 10 pound wight from defunct weight machine, I took 2 garage door roller brackets and JB welded them on spaced about 1/2 inch apart.  There was some round stock with a flattened end with a hole in it with the other end bent at 90 degrees which I cut off as the release pin.  I used a spool of mason twine tied to the with the hole.  You can use a gutter nail or an old screw driver to make the release pin.  And wallah.  Using mason twine or .015 music wire I made tail loops for my planes that the rod threaded through.  I also JB weeded some tile spacers for gripping.  Set on the brackets for tail draggers or set on tile spacers for tricycle.  
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Post  latole Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:10 am

Thank you very much rsv1cox. it give to me some ideas
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Post  latole Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:21 pm

Job done

Heavy piece of iron, 2 corner braces and one nail.
All stuff I have on the shelf.

Thank you for your help .

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Post  049kid Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:38 pm

Hey that cox Corsair brings back fond memories,bought one from toys r us in mod1990s when they actually sold good stuff.the kids flew the the crude out of it,a pre ty good flier,the engine lives on.sam
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Post  MauricioB Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:12 am

Roberto! I love this whole adventure!! Congratulations... I like how you describe the whole story from when you started flying until the engine stopped... I can imagine everything...
Thanks for sharing and it's great to see what you're doing, my friend!
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Post  latole Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:15 am

Mine, bought a few years ago.
Never seems to have flown as it is so clean and without any trace of wear.

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Post  rdw777 Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:38 am

That’s a good flight story Bob and a good showcase of the Cox Corsair…..I like the “on the deck” photo straining to go…. I had to look it up and see if I could find one flying…..

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Post  1975 control line guy Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:30 am

I do not have video's yet but my flight went just about the same except my landing wasn't as smoothed and have some damage to repair.  Old plastic vs pavement can result in a lost right landing gear.  Now I know a place where to do a preflight JB Weld reinforcement.  Oh well that is part of the hobby. Airplane

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Post  GallopingGhostler Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:59 am

Good going, she flew!

These were what they were. The wheels are just a bit tiny to properly roll on pavement.

I learned that balsa flies better. The profile semi-scale C/L series, Sterling Beginners withstood flight damages well, especially if flown off grass. (The decent stuff, not the New Mexico scrub we call grass. Robert @rdw777 who flies in similar high desert conditions knows very well. Laughing

A few have templated and made wood patterns of the RTF, then flew the wood version and spared the plastic version for display.

Not saying anything wrong with your RTF flying by any means, please don't get me wrong.

In high school late 1960's, I had the Corsair's sister, the Cox P-51B turtle deck version.
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Post  latole Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:06 am

Since the landing gear has no suspension, it is not shock-resistant


Yes balsa fly better.
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Post  rsv1cox Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:11 am

I enjoyed that video Robert especially the end when the plastic Corsair rattled to a stop. The sound so characteristic of a plastic model airplane landing on a hard surface. Balsa just muffles it's way to a stop.

Got on-line and found a canopy for the Corsair to replace the balsa model I stuck on it.

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Looks like the pilot banged his head, Harness not tightened properly I suspect.......

I like this picture as well and I remember the moment. Bouncing around like a kitten eager to play.

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While there I made a throw-away bid on this Cox Cessna. I always liked it and wanted one. I bid $36 and it went for $40 something.

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Post  latole Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:32 am

When I flew Cox airplane with canopy , if I can, I remove it before flying
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Post  latole Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:50 am

Done ; any better idea ?

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Post  rsv1cox Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:40 am

Good job! Effective and it works. Best solution is a pin through the skid or a skid retainer. Much cleaner and the model doesn't have to drag that string around. But it's the same method that I used on my Corsair.
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Post  latole Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:51 am

rsv1cox wrote:Good job!  Effective and it works.  Best solution is a pin through the skid or a skid retainer.  Much cleaner and the model doesn't have to drag that string around.  But it's the same method that I used on my Corsair.  


Sorry I don't understand . Do have any picture ?

Thank's
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Post  GallopingGhostler Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:57 am

@latole, I think Bob may have misunderstood your photo of your stooge.

It looks like to me, that you fastened one end of the string to the bottom of the bracket. The other end is tied to the pin. When the pin is pulled, the string end is released, allowing the model slip away from the string to take off. If another angle were photo'd, may show this clearer.

Thus, the string is not tied in a loop to remain with the plane during flight. Am I right?

Bob is referring to the pin being mounted lower, and actually going through a hole in the tail skid or latches the tail wheel, so that a string is not needed.

My stooge works exactly like yours.
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Post  latole Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:21 am

Yes, yhe small yellow cable stay with the plane in flight.

I may use fishing nylon string, it is smaller.

I don't want to make any hole in the plane
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