Off topic - Marlin/Glenfield

Speaking of Jimmy Stewart and old westerns, my vote goes to "Winchester '73".

Dave P. wrote:Speaking of Jimmy Stewart and old westerns, my vote goes to "Winchester '73".  

Good one, but I would prefer Winchester 94/22.............

fredvon4 wrote:I am a big fan of a LOT of those older actors....Jimmy Stewart in the mix

What truly astounds me is current Internet Encyclopedic capability of searching

so I found a list of actors who were in over 120 movies

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls053612898/

So many of those names stand out Fred, Danny Glover in "Places in the Heart", George Kennedy in "Cool Hand Luke", James Earle Jones in "Field of Dreams" and Bette Davis in everything.

I was never a movie fan until I discovered TCM. Seems I have seen all the movies that I could not afford to see when I was a kid.

rsv1cox wrote:

Dave P. wrote:Speaking of Jimmy Stewart and old westerns, my vote goes to "Winchester '73".  

Good one, but I would prefer Winchester 94/22.............

But Jimmy Stewart wasn't in that one!

Dave P. wrote:

rsv1cox wrote:

Dave P. wrote:Speaking of Jimmy Stewart and old westerns, my vote goes to "Winchester '73".  

Good one, but I would prefer Winchester 94/22.............

But Jimmy Stewart wasn't in that one!

Ha, ha........But I was.

Bob

Several years ago, I was dating a lady that belonged to one of our local "Cult Churches" (vague references to God, Christ, or the Bible, but mostly focusing on raising money for itself), and one of their projects was preparing for the soon-to-be Judgment Day.

By our third date, and like any zealot worth their salt, she set about converting me to the Light, and in an almost interrogating tone, questioned what I'd done to get ready for the mayhem.

I said I'd already done all I needed to do...I owned a very nice rifle.  
"What's THAT supposed to mean??!!"

I should mention that she'd revealed herself to be an anti-gun zealot as well, and I replied that, "In Armageddon, a good rifle will be essentially the same thing as a shopping cart."

We only dated a couple more times after that, including a "Christmas Play" at her church that never mentioned Christ, before I finally pulled the plug on the whole deal.

For a while after, I received several strategically chosen verses of scripture via E-mail before she either gave up or found another convert.

Good times!

Kim wrote:I should mention that she'd revealed herself to be an anti-gun zealot as well, and I replied that, "In Armageddon, a good rifle will be essentially the same thing as a shopping cart." We only dated a couple more times after that, including a "Christmas Play" at her church that never mentioned Christ, before I finally pulled the plug on the whole deal. For a while after, I received several strategically chosen verses of scripture via E-mail before she either gave up or found another convert.

Amazing. Guns Oops! Weapons as the Army taught me (guns are artillery pieces, weapons are firearms, Fred Von would know   ) are things, inanimate objects. They do no harm. It is the human heart that controls what one's hands do. Even Christ did not speak out against them, except in the case of the disciple Peter, who in a fit of rage swung a sword at a priest's servant with intention of taking his head off, servant ducked and caught his ear instead!

John 18:10-11 MKJV wrote:Then Simon Peter, having a sword, drew it and struck the high priest's servant and cut off his right ear. And the servant's name was Malchus. Then Jesus said to Peter, "Put up your sword into the sheath. The cup which My Father has given Me, shall I not drink it?"

and

Luke 22:36-38 MKJV wrote:And He said to them, "But now, he who has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his wallet. And he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. For I say to you that this which is written must yet be accomplished in Me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors; for the things concerning Me have an end." And they said, "Lord, behold, here are two swords." And He said to them, "It is enough."

All goes back to the heart.

GallopingGhostler wrote:

Kim wrote:I should mention that she'd revealed herself to be an anti-gun zealot as well, and I replied that, "In Armageddon, a good rifle will be essentially the same thing as a shopping cart." We only dated a couple more times after that, including a "Christmas Play" at her church that never mentioned Christ, before I finally pulled the plug on the whole deal. For a while after, I received several strategically chosen verses of scripture via E-mail before she either gave up or found another convert.

Amazing. Guns Oops! Weapons as the Army taught me (guns are artillery pieces, weapons are firearms, Fred Von would know   ) are things, inanimate objects. They do no harm. It is the human heart that controls what one's hands do. Even Christ did not speak out against them, except in the case of the disciple Peter, who in a fit of rage swung a sword at a priest's servant with intention of taking his head off, servant ducked and caught his ear instead!

John 18:10-11 MKJV wrote:Then Simon Peter, having a sword, drew it and struck the high priest's servant and cut off his right ear. And the servant's name was Malchus. Then Jesus said to Peter, "Put up your sword into the sheath. The cup which My Father has given Me, shall I not drink it?"

and

Luke 22:36-38 MKJV wrote:And He said to them, "But now, he who has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his wallet. And he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. For I say to you that this which is written must yet be accomplished in Me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors; for the things concerning Me have an end." And they said, "Lord, behold, here are two swords." And He said to them, "It is enough."

All goes back to the heart.

Yeah, in all fairness, the bits of scripture that were aimed at me involved my comment about the "Christmas Play".

I didn't care for the rock concert presentations of the place, such as a floating video screen with a woman's high speed babble-rapping nonsense about "The Light", the grubby dress of the pastor and his son, and the disrespectful behavior and crazy dress of the young people.

Her response was that they had to allow that to draw people in.

Mine was something to the effect that by that standard, a meth lab and troupe of hookers would fill the place up every night.

The subject never came up again, 'til I started getting Bible Bits in my Email.

Kim brother I loved the story....I be happily married now 35 years.... first one was a problem

So as I wander through life and relationships I only get to over hear what you described....

For way too many years I was a VFW Officer and Wife was Commander...so basically ...by definition ...we were both all day long alcoholics
I have actually listened to some member shine on an obvious nut case just hoping to get laid a few more times before cutting the insanity loose on some other unsuspecting lonely old guy/Gal  ( I have seen these chat and date of nut case folks in either of three roles) Yes Virginia we have a large population of gender confused right here in Rural Texas

I like your very astute description of what some try to define as a CHURCH....worth repeating: "our local "Cult Churches" (vague references to God, Christ, or the Bible, but mostly focusing on raising money for itself)"...

I am in the center of Southern Baptiste churches and a few Episcopal and Catholic...

BUT in this Fort Hood region is CHOP (Christian House of Prayer) and they are very very large and absolutely as you describe above ---a Cult Church

Before I was 18 I lived in my family with Episcopal Dad and Roman Catholic mother...and They sent their children to parochial schools
The interesting* thing is moving all over the world later got me in trouble with the catholic Church

Taiwan was mix of Chinese Traditional, Buddhists, Hindu, Atheist Communists, and a pretty hard Line Catholic Missionary...Yes Virginia I was a Alter Boy on Taiwan as a 4th and 5th grad student

Iran before the SHAW was deposed or run off or what ever...pretty good mix of Islam, Catholic, and Jewish....again a young person perspective in a fairly large student body Missionary school...can not remember if Mary Knoll sisters or Jesuits sponsored the school

Santiago Chili mostly Atheists (communists) and Roman Catholic (Missionary)...A lot of the State Department kids I went to school with were devout and practicing Jews

So. Anyway, I was exposed to many different religions and church protocols, mantras, rules, dogma....and except for the atheists...God good...Devil bad was a common theme

Even Buddhist, Hindus, Muslims, Wickans, ...all have some acknowledgement of Good Vs Evil

factoid    According to some estimates, there are roughly 4,200 religions in the world


So how did this get my sophomore HS butt sideways with the Catholic Church


I was attending Saint Mary's College Prep* in Peralta Park Berkeley California and still not decided what life would bring ---but was being steered/directed to the Catholic Seminary to be the Priest my mother wanted.......  * an all boys school


Brother Timothy Edwards was the Principle and taught a weekly Religion class


In a Catholic Mass is a very long opening prayer and part of it has this declaration we all must proclaim


I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.


In previous classes as early as 4th grad as a alter boy I had been instructed that the ONLY path to heave was through the Catholic Church
This notions was reinforce during my Catechism classes and almost every grades religious teaching by Nuns, Fathers, Bishops, and Cardinals

So Brother Timothy opens the floor to questions...I carefully ask....(after quoting the above passage in the prayer) and basically claiming every Catholic teacher has insisted the ONLY path to heaven was throught the Catholic Church.......
So Brother Timothy said yes that is correct

So I spent just a few telling Bro Tim that I was Army Brat world traveled and knew a little about many different religions....He was getting impatient with my long winded yadda yadda ...just like all of you that try to read my Crapolla....

He put his hand up and said...so whats your question?...and I said... 

So there are 4.5 billion* people on earth and 1.2 billion are Catholics
If the Battle for souls is between God and The Devil....by the Catholic church's mantra that ONLY PASSAGE to heaven is the Church...then ultimately Devil wins....


*this class was 1971
Bro Tim sent a note to my Mom...."perhaps Young Frederick is not suited for the Priest hood".... Dad returns from the Nam...sees the note and tells mother dear..."see I told you he was a heathen"...