WTB: TeeDee Aluminum Carb Body

Ken Cook wrote:             I'm not sure if your a Ebay user. They can be purchased through this seller http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cox-09-Tee-Dee-Aluminum-Carb-Body-W-Oring-Gasket-Venturi-T-Wrench-/310794203703?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item485cc73237  
 Although this is the .09, he was recently doing another run of .049's-.051's. You could contact him through Ebay directly. If your not a member, let me know. Ken

Yeah I know they were on eBay. But this past week they disappeared. That's why I came here.

I'm not completely sold on the aluminum intakes, the rear seal that came with the one I have squished out, so I used a .09 head gasket in it's place. I haven't run it yet though.

WingingIt74 wrote:I'm not completely sold on the aluminum intakes, the rear seal that came with the one I have squished out, so I used a .09 head gasket in it's place.  I haven't run it yet though.

I just went ahead and bought a nos part off eBay. I want to use a starter spring and the aluminum bodies don't have the pressure feed provision that holds the spring.

I hope you didn't spend more than $3.95 as that is what they sell for from Cox International.

Ron

Cribbs74 wrote:I hope you didn't spend more than $3.95 as that is what they sell for from Cox International.

Ron

To be correct it needed to be red.

Gotcha,

I'll remember to read next time... Hope it works out for you.

G.O. Stang wrote:Need to replace a cracked carb body. I know the plastic ones are available in eBay, but I'd prefer the rigidity of the metal piece. If anyone has one they'd part with, I could use it. This is for a .051 so I would like a red one.

GO:

I have serveral NOS .051's and all of their venturis (not carburetors) are black. How sure are you that you are correct about red?

There is no doubt that red and black venturis may be interchanged and many have been by previous owners.
.

FYI: a carburetor has a adjustable throttle plate; a venturi doesn't.  

SD

SuperDave wrote:

G.O. Stang wrote:Need to replace a cracked carb body. I know the plastic ones are available in eBay, but I'd prefer the rigidity of the metal piece. If anyone has one they'd part with, I could use it. This is for a .051 so I would like a red one.

GO:

I have serveral NOS .051's and all of their venturis (not carburetors) are black.  How sure are you that you are correct about red?

There is no doubt that red and black venturis may be interchanged and many have been by previous owners.
.

FYI: a carburetor has a adjustable throttle plate; a venturi doesn't.     

SD

I've just always seen it referred to as a carb body. I'm still new here. Haha
And again, I've seen red referred to being a 051 part. And the nos part I bought, it's bag specifically states it being a tee dee .051 carb body.

I'm not sold on the idea that black bodies came on .051's and vice versa. I have yet to see one in that configuration out of the box.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if that was a late Estes thing though.

Dave, in the Cox instruction sheet it is called a carb body. Does it make sense? No, but it is what it is.

Ron

I don't know about the 049/051 but certainly on my 020 the
starter spring still works without the pressure tap to
locate it on.



Sorry I don't have Macro on my phone but you get the idea.

I've found all sorts of ways to secure the springs. With the Norvel springs, I zip tie them to the lower beam with two small ties. Keeps you from having to carve a relief in the wood to get it to fit. And it makes mounting on a Cox test stand easier. I still had to widen the gap on the stand to fit the crankcase though.

Rusty

"Dave, in the Cox instruction sheet it is called a carb body. Does it make sense? No, but it is what it is." - Ron

A carburetor contains an adjustable throttle plate veneuri does not ergo Cox is NOT "lying" but using misleading term.

A venturi is a place where the volocity of intake air is accelerated to draw in additional fuel. In essense this means that a venturi is only one part of a carburertor and NOT the reciprocal.

SD

Even though occasional misuse of language is sometimes frustrating, it drains too much happy life energy for me to sweat those kinds of details in futility. Just sayin... So what's your point in quoting Ron's reply before disseminating those educational facts, Dave? Did some highly intellectual innuendo fly over my head?

Rusty

Rusty:

Words are like precision instruments; selection is very important before precise meaning can be conveyed. Example: a glo-plug "igniter" does "ignite" a glo-plug so why call it an "igniter"? That reasoning escapes me how about you?

Ditto carburetor/venturi.

"Ya know what I mean?" Rusty  

SD

SuperDave wrote:Rusty:

Words are like precision instruments; selection is very important before precise meaning can be conveyed.  Example: a glo-plug "igniter" does "ignite" a glo-plug so why call it an "igniter"?  That reasoning escapes me how about you?

Ditto carburetor/venturi.

"Ya know what I mean?" Rusty   

SD

Because glow plug glower sounds stupid. Realistically it should be a glow plug battery. Plain and simple. Because that's all it is. Connected by a clip.

GO:  I suggested "heater" rather than "igniter" for, in fact, that's what one does.  It heats the glow plug rather than setting fire to it as "igniter" would imply.

I've seen beginers heat glow-plug with a common match to malke the element glow then quickly re-insert the plug back into the engine thinking the engine will start.  Does it start?  No? Why not?   

Seems to me the purpose of this forum is convey information as accuratly as possible.  Why use misleading terms?  I have similar concerns with the use of term "gun" for infact there are all sorts.  "Anti-gunners" don't know or care to know the differences.

Hope that I've made myself clear.    

SD

SuperDave wrote:GO:  I suggested "heater" rather than "igniter" for, in fact, that's what one does.  It heats the glow plug rather than setting fire to it as "igniter" would imply.

I've seen beginers heat glow-plug with a common match to malke the element glow then quickly re-insert the plug back into the engine thinking the engine will start.  Does it start?  No? Why not?   

Seems to me the purpose of this forum is convey information as accuratly as possible.  Why use misleading terms?  I have similar concerns with the use of term "gun" for infact there are all sorts.  "Anti-gunners" don't know or care to know the differences.

Hope that I've made myself clear.    

SD

I glow plug itself, however, by design heats itself when given a power supply. Like a Diesel engine. Only right when the engine is starting so they need power. After that, the design of the pistons and combustion chambers in them allow he compression pressure to heat and ignite the fuel. So they aren't really hearing the plug, rather, powering it to heat itself.

Once a diesel engine is in operation, the heat generated by high compression ignites the charge of fuel and to STOP a diesel the fuel supply is simply cut off. Right?

To START a diesel engine, glow plugs, powered by batteries, heat the elements to the point they'll fire the charge of fuel when the diesel engine is cranked over. (It's usually almost instantanious)

"Glower" is your term not mine and it IS non-descriptive, "heater" being more accurate.
Call it an "igniter" if you wish but I will always chuckle.  

I bid you adu on this subject.

SD

I decided to look up the meaning of the word ignite.


ig·nite (g-nt)
v. ig·nit·ed, ig·nit·ing, ig·nites
v.tr.
1.
a. To cause to burn.
b. To set fire to.
2. To subject to great heat, especially to make luminous by heat.
3. To arouse the passions of; excite: The insults ignited my anger.
v.intr.
1. To begin to burn.
2. To begin to glow.
[Late Latin ignre, ignt-, from Latin ignis, fire.]
ig·nita·ble, ig·niti·ble adj.
ig·niter, ig·nitor n.

Ron: And your point being?  

SD

The definition lends itself to both trains of thought.

Cribbs74 wrote:The definition lends itself to both trains of thought.

Ron:

Rather than parse words with you (like Bill Clinton's "I didn't have sex with that woman".) I'll let the matter rest and withdraw from the forum until after the holidays.  My post count has grown excessive and I need a break.

Happy Holidays.  Remember the reason for the season.     

SD

SD,

I was just saying it could go either way by definition. There was no point except to say there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Have a good Christmas!

Ron