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Post  cox radial Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:45 pm

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Post  cox radial Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:05 pm

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Post  Shnitzl Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:47 pm

nice same design I will be using Smile
have you run yours?
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Post  ekitten2 Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:48 am

ohh wow thats friggen grouse
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Post  TheotherGeoff Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:41 pm

I do hope you will succeed. There are a couple of engineers on RC Groups who swear a vane type compressor will not work at this size. I think it will. Check out the RCG engines forum for details, since as a newbie I can't post a link.

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Post  RknRusty Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:32 pm

If you're talking about iamplanecrazy's thread, it's turned into a real mudfight over that subject.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1362796

The last few pages are getting tense.

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Post  Jason_WI Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:48 pm

It's only heated because of one tool posting in that thread. I have him blocked so his posts don't show up on RCG. I believe he was banned on RCU for doing the same thing over there. It gets old fast.

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Post  pkrankow Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:03 pm

Are there springs loading the vanes or is it just centripetal forces keeping it sealed and outside?

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Post  Jason_WI Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:07 pm

Every vane pump I have worked on they are pushed out by centrifugal force. The only spring loaded device I have encountered in an engine are apex seals in the OS Wankel engine.
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Post  TheotherGeoff Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:29 am

I had suggested to iamplanecrazy that he consider the very light carbon rotor and vanes from a forced air kerosene heater. He's built his radial with only a drill press and a good imagination, so is severely lacking in machinery! The nay-sayers jumped all over me, swearing that friction losses would exceed output with my suggested vane & rotor.

Jason, does your avatar show a rear rotor Olympic? Do you have a disassembled photo somewhere?

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Post  cox radial Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:07 pm

This compressor has spring loaded vanes to insure constant contact with case. I tested compressors without springs and sometimes vanes failed to slide out properly, I think due to fuel causing sticking and the light weight of the vanes. Also tolerances have to be close to make a good seal. This is one proto type. Other options would be a larger diameter compressor or a longer compressor for more volume. The goal is to make the engine look realistic in size as well as run properly. I also have in mind a 6 cylinder radial with 3 cylinders running the engine and 3 pumping fuel under pressure. I am also about half way finished with a cox outboard motor. I hope to post pictures in near future.
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